has anyone else had there outdoor seeded out by hemp?

[chief73]

My friend has been growing this afghanxskunk#1 since 1973 and two years ago it got knocked up by some hemp.I grew this out last year and half my shit didn't get you high.Kinda embarrasing selling a lbs and having half of it come back.These plants are 12' monsters that yeild 2 lbs without any upkeep.I just planted them and checked in once a month.The ones that didn't get you high looked and smelled just like the good stuff so now I just don't know what to do.The stuff that gets you high gets you really stoned but I don't have room in my indoor grow to waste space on junk,but I don't want to grow it again outside till I know they are all good.I'm gonna wait till next winter and find a keeper mom and knock it up with the Williams wonder clone that I've been running.I made a coiloidal silver generator and will try to make some fem seeds and try to breed this back out.

 

[thizzness]

i wouldn't fuck with seeds that have hemp genetics. my advice is to throw them out and start fresh.

 

[supercras]

Id try that but maybe get some new seeds also so you know you have some good ones while you figure them out and/or breed with the williams wonder. How long have you had the williams wonder, I havent seen it for a while other than what I have been cloning after clone for years. Good stuff

 

[chief73]

I've had the williams for about 3 years now but it's a little different than the original from back in the late 80's.Still one of my favorites for daytime smoke though.I kept the lemon pledge smelling pheno but she doesn't yeild very well so that's why I wanted to cross them with a good afghanxskunk#1.Like I said this guy has been growing this strain commercially for 37 years so I kinda want to help him get things stable again.He pretty much just uses seeds from the year before so hasn't save any.He gave me a mason jar full of seeds but they're all mixed up and most of them look like little acorns,weird looking seeds.One of my patches got seeded out last year and all the seeds look normal so that's what I'm gonna be using to sort things out.They all came off one of the plants that get you stoned so I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed and hope for a keeper.I'm starting 20 seeds to run outside in a spot I found a couple years ago.It's pretty remote and I don't think anyone else grows out there.Just keep shit labled and kill all the males.

 

[supercras]

sounds like the same williams wonder and pheno I got about 3-5 years ago. The yield is also small compared to others but its good stuff

 

[hamstring]

Same thing happened to me. I was growing Endless sky and some femed Shaman in on plot together. The endless sky turned up pregnant I thought the Shaman hermed on me but that wasn’t the case didn’t find out until next season when I grew close to 10lbs of bunk. The hybrid showed great vigor and huge yields but I had to make hash out of the whole lot of it.

I am from the Midwest and see hemp every year and saw a hemp plant in the vicinity of my grow and thought I took took care of it early. It’s never the ones you see that get you. I am not a breeder but if you did some research and had some time you could pull out some good phenos.

I wouldn’t myself but I know it can be done over a few generations I just don’t have the experience to tell you any more than that. Good luck to you.

 

[chief73]

Yeah I'm in the midwest too but this is the first time this has happened.Supercras I've grown this clone in soil and hydro and it always smells the same but the hydro tasted like lemon starburst.It only takes one or two hits and I'm good for three or four hours.I'd love to get the growth of this afghanxskunk with the lemon pledge smell and taste of the williams.I'm not a breeder either but I like to play around a little.I'm working on making femenized williams wonder because I've abused this cut and it just keeps going.I got infested with spidermites and they killed every thing in my grow except the williams.It doesn't hermie at all I've tried with heat stress and fucking with the light cycle but it wouldn't throw out any pollen.Hopefully this pollen from the coloidal silver will do the trick.

 

[supercras]

Yah I wonder how close they are I just grow trees in 5 gallon DWC, and yah they never hermie no matter what they do. I had some new york diesal that hermie for no reason next to them and the williams had a small amount of seeds, but I never tried them. My buddy just started some Medijuana ( spelling? and not sure where he bought the beans about 100$ for 10 he mentioned) sounded like a big yielder and fast indica. I think a good male would do well with the WW. Now im just rambling but the main things is I smoked the WW everyday for years and still am not tired of it, If other people can still find it, i

 

[supercras]

I recommend it! (I bumped the submit key before I could finish and proofread)

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Ahhh hemp. Its not a drug species fellows.
When you cross hemp with anything, you get hemp. European hemp is genetically dominant. Thats why the offspring isnt potent even though it was bred with a potent plant- the hemp genes are dominant and thats what the offspring will be. You can breed the shit until the cows come home and youre going to end up with hemp. If by some freakish act of nature you managed to cross it with something that did manage to pass on some minimul level of resin production, successive generations would look more and more like the hemp!

Whatever you cross it with is going to be dominated by the hemp genetics and will cease to exist.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

After thinking a minute, there might be one way. G-13 is perhaps the most dominant cannabis genetic i know of. G-13 dominates any cross its in and f2's, f3's, f4's, the G-13 will be more and more apparant until it finally dominates the other genetic altogether and ensuing grows will look like your growing staight g-13.

But I believe that even under this scenario, moderate, unstable potency is about all you could ever acheive. Plus, when you cross 2 dominant strains, every seed is a battle for genetic dominance and if you have 100 seeds, you have 100 pheno's, so good luck with that!

Its hemp!

 

[chief73]

I think I'm just going to start 20 seeds and grow them out to find a keeper mother because the potency of this strain and that old school smell and taste are really outstanding.I just saw williams wonder seeds over at the depot for like 60 bucks,think I might pick up a pack.I talked to my friend that used to grow it back in 89 and he said someone stole all his seed stock and 10,000 bucks a couple years ago so he's looking for the real deal too.I just sent him a couple cuts to see what he thinks.I don't think I'm gonna mess with trying to stabalize the afghanxskunk,Just find a keeper and make a few moms for my friend.On a side note I was just gifted another chronic clone today so I'll have something for a good yeild with this new vert setup I just put together.

 

[supermanlives]

when life gives you hemp ,make rope LOL

 

[Claude Hopper]

DS, I don't know about the dominance of hemp crosses. I do know that "hemp" simply refers to strains of cannabis sativa which are grown for the qualities of their fiber.

I grew up and lived in what seemed a vast hempfield. All of our fencerows had lots of hemp growing alongside raqweed and foxtail grass.

As far as resin goes, hemp can have a lot of resin -- not much thc. Believe me, I've tried many plants and their is very little effect. The buds can look fantastic, like a nice landrace sativa.

I'll have to snap some shots of the local hemp this summer.

Those who breed autoflowers use ruderalis with very low thc. They cross with a high thc sativa or indica and then select for the autoflowering trait and for the higher thc.

I don't see why the same couldn't be done with hemp to work for some of its good qualities. This is one tough weed that grows well on its own and flowers soon enough for nice ripe buds before frost ends the season.

 

[Yes_I_Am]

ive often wondered if hemp fields would pollinate my outdoor girls

 

[Claude Hopper]

Yes, if hemp is in a nearby field or fence row it will definitely pollinate your grow.

Its happened to me. I never get pure sinsimilla here. There are always a few scattered seeds. Not enough to complain.

 

[Yes_I_Am]

ive never had it happen thnakfully but i will deffo be watching in the future, just incase.

id stear well clear of any hemp crosses, they are bred for fiber not bud.

 

[thizzness]

I don't see why the same couldn't be done with hemp to work for some of its good qualities. This is one tough weed that grows well on its own and flowers soon enough for nice ripe buds before frost ends the season.

I would really like to see someone try this. A few days ago I walked around an area where I'm putting a couple guerrilla spots and there were thousands (maybe even millions?) of hemp seedlings all over the place. I hiked for three hours straight and not once did I ever look down and not see some hemp growing. The stuff truly is a weed. If someone were to breed out everything but the extreme hardiness and explosive growth of hemp...that could be a really nice strain. If hemp is grown in shitty conditions it thrives, and when its in good conditions you see massive 20ft tall trees.

I'm growing early finishing autoflowers to avoid the pollen. Any ideas when male hemp plants start dropping pollen?

 

[Claude Hopper]

I would really like to see someone try this. A few days ago I walked around an area where I'm putting a couple guerrilla spots and there were thousands (maybe even millions?) of hemp seedlings all over the place. I hiked for three hours straight and not once did I ever look down and not see some hemp growing. The stuff truly is a weed. If someone were to breed out everything but the extreme hardiness and explosive growth of hemp...that could be a really nice strain. If hemp is grown in shitty conditions it thrives, and when its in good conditions you see massive 20ft tall trees.

I'm growing early finishing autoflowers to avoid the pollen. Any ideas when male hemp plants start dropping pollen?

Some are quite early, by mid-July.

I have one plant that was completely isolated from any of my males last season in which I found a single mature seed.

I guarantee you this seed, which is nearly certain to be hemp crossed with early sativa, will be planted in the interest of science.

 

[chief73]

I might sow a few seeds out on this little island I found last year and put a couple williams clones out with them for a open pollenation.The afghanxskunk was a 10' plant before it got crossed with the hemp and I could see that there was 2 phenos the hemp was 12' to 14' tall and the afghan was only 8' to 10' so I think I'll be able to pick a good male that is the shorter pheno and kill off all the tallest plants.I did have a few autos last year that came from these same seeds and I crossed an auto male and female.I only got about 10 seeds out of them though.I had 300 seedling vegging and only 3 of them were autos,I wouldn't mind making an auto with the williams wonder that would finnish in august.The clone that I've got only gets to about 4' tall so its a good stealth plant.You're right though the hemp grows very fast.This little island would be perfect for this kind of project as it's all overgrown forest everywhere else around it so I don't think anyone else is growing out there.I'd hate to fuck up someone elses grow with this pollen so I think this is a good location.