Safe limit on outdoor plants?

[TommytheCat]

Hi there folks,

I was curious about how many plants would be safe to grow outdoors. I own property a few hour drive away from my current location that sits on about 200 acres of rural land (with more than 4,000 acres of untouched and unexamined land surrounding it).

Of course I'd never dream of growing on other peoples land, but the land surrounding my land is almost never touched, its set in reserve as farm land (that is not being farmed). About 1/2 of the land is covered by woods, and hills, and even a few large streams running through the woods. There is light penetration in several areas throughout the woods.

Now that I've rambled on enough, how many plants would be safe without pushing my luck? I only grow for myself and for a family member that has painful joints (and they don't even know I grow). I need your guys opinions, you know better than I do. I was thinking maybe a couple big bushy sativas, and plant in a few rooted clone indicas for the painkiller strains needed.

 

[TommytheCat]

I forgot to add, the weather there is very nice. Long hot summers, and late fall has hot days and cool nights.

 

[badbeans]

Hi there folks,

I was curious about how many plants would be safe to grow outdoors. I own property a few hour drive away from my current location that sits on about 200 acres of rural land (with more than 4,000 acres of untouched and unexamined land surrounding it).

Of course I'd never dream of growing on other peoples land, but the land surrounding my land is almost never touched, its set in reserve as farm land (that is not being farmed). About 1/2 of the land is covered by woods, and hills, and even a few large streams running through the woods. There is light penetration in several areas throughout the woods.

Now that I've rambled on enough, how many plants would be safe without pushing my luck? I only grow for myself and for a family member that has painful joints (and they don't even know I grow). I need your guys opinions, you know better than I do. I was thinking maybe a couple big bushy sativas, and plant in a few rooted clone indicas for the painkiller strains needed.

In my area the safe number of plants to grow on my property is zero,zip,zilch,nada,none Whatever you want to call it. Much safer to grow on property that isn't your own, just don't get caught doing it. Security is your top priority.

With that being said...Good luck it sounds like a really nice place to garden!

bb

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Yes, grow on someone else's property. Its called guerilla growing and some of us have made it a lifes work. Around here, they dont even ask the farmer when they find weed growing on a farm. They cut it down and go.

If its on your property, they cut it down and take you!

Find out what your state laws are on growing cannabis. In some states, they have laws stating that if you use personal property for illlegial activity, they can confiscate the property. Here you can grow 4 plants and its a misdemeanor. Its different in other states but sometimes just the difference in a few plants can mean the difference between a fine and prison tim.e

 

[thizzness]

If the land is completely unused, I imagine you'd be pretty safe with a large number of plants, just spread them out and conceal them well. But if you live in an area where there is a lot of growing and corresponding law enforcement heat...i would keep the number low.

 

[Habel]

do 200 beans

 

[tr1ck_]

Well if its just personal for you and one other, and you have long nice summers. You should be able to easily grow more than enough for a whole year with only a couple plants. I say keep the number small, you will be safer, and have less worrying. No reason to push the limit and get risky since its only personal.

 

[TommytheCat]

Thanks for the tips guys. Like I said before there are 4000 acres of woods surrounding the property that I own. I may just use a little bit of that land. A large portion of the 4000 acres is covered in woods, and NO ONE ever goes there. It's basically a dead rural little town with literally 3-4 police for the whole place. It's rare when you see a car drive by out there.

Maybe I'll head a bit deeper into the woods and plant there (off my own land). There is a running water supply and I haven't seen as much as an old shotgun shell casing or soda can.

 

[badbeans]

... Like I said before there are 4000 acres of woods surrounding the property that I own. I may just use a little bit of that land....

Maybe I'll head a bit deeper into the woods and plant there (off my own land). There is a running water supply and I haven't seen as much as an old shotgun shell casing or soda can.

Now I'm liking your ideas here!

Many here prefer similar methods, safety is priority one. Grab your shovel and get to work...post your results

bb

 

[supermanlives]

sounds like my last place. my biggest problems were hunters and poachers. i ran most off, i was also suprised by a few dirt bikes.

 

[hamstring]

I agree with DS but if you are set on growing there it’s really more of an experience thing. You’ve never grown here so no way to know how much work each plant will take.

I have put 80 plants out before but never been able to properly care for all of them. It comes down to demising returns. More plants means less attention and therefore less yield. Fewer plants mean that they get better attention and more yield. So 40 at 1 lb yeild the same as 80 at 1/2 lb.

I promise you if you’re a beginner and I don’t just mean to outdoor growing but to the location the best way to handle this is to start small with good genetics. There are so many variables its so hard to say how many plants you can handle.

Never the answer someone wants to hear although it’s the truth. Ok let’s say you know what strains work well in your environment ( do you?) and you also know what soil make up is and the amendments needed (do you?).

So do you basically have to haul all the soil out to each hole? Thats way different than if you already have rich soil. Now what about water and nutes do you have to hand water every plant?

Really need more info on the enviroment and your MO to give you a reasonable answer.

 

[ZZTops]

Yes... Keep it small, manageable and above all safe...

Know your state laws, 6 plants in TX is much different then in CO...

Small town politics can be a bitch so keep that in mind as well...

Grow on your own land if possible, if not have respect for the land you Trespass on ( i.e. treat it as if it was your own...)

Maybe 6 plants ( 3 sativas / 3 indicas ) spread out in prime locations and see how it goes this year...

If all goes well you will have a couple years supply this fall...

Good Vibs and Health to You and Yours...

 

[Phillthy]

and make sure hunters dont hunt the land.

 

[Greenwich Pope]

I'm thinking 3-5 of some good OD genetics, if the weathers right go purple.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

1 million! I get tired of the 20,000 plant grows. Set a record. Go for a million. Put those illegal alien growers in their place. Show them how we do it, or maybe not. I wish i had land like that. I would do 1 billion.

 

[Captain Ginyu]

Thanks for the tips guys. Like I said before there are 4000 acres of woods surrounding the property that I own. I may just use a little bit of that land. A large portion of the 4000 acres is covered in woods, and NO ONE ever goes there. It's basically a dead rural little town with literally 3-4 police for the whole place. It's rare when you see a car drive by out there.

Maybe I'll head a bit deeper into the woods and plant there (off my own land). There is a running water supply and I haven't seen as much as an old shotgun shell casing or soda can.

Sounds like you have the ideal setting for a potential gold mine, given you take the proper precautions of course. However; since you say it's just for personal & a friend or two, there's no need to plant more than twenty, I think. And don't put them all in one spot, either. That will make you & your friend heavily medicated for a long haul.

 

[TommytheCat]

BB, Thank you for the advice brother. I have still yet to decide if I will grow this year. I have just returned from a long journey overseas. I'm hoping to grow this year but I have yet to order my beans, and my moms are gone for now. If I get going this year, I promise you some pictures my friend. I'm just doing my research now so when I am all set to grow I will at least half know what I'm doing.

D.S, That's very good information. That property has been in the family for ages so it would truly break my heart if it was taken from us. I'll look into the information regarding law. I know much of those 4000 acres like the back of my hand as I've spend 20+ summers every year there.

Superman, that's a good thing to be concerned with. Thanks for the advice. I've not seen as much as a deer blind, stand, or shell casings. That of course does not mean they are not there, but I feel safe with most of the land. I'll be sure to keep an eye out and perhaps plant them among the thorn bushes just to make the area a little less ''stranger friendly''.

Hamstring, really good advice buddy. I've been an indoor grower for darn near a decade now. Never once grew outdoors though so I guess you are 100% right there. I am a total beginner outdoors, and I don't want to screw that up. I might have to get a few cuts planted. I was thinking of checking the flowering time, but I've always wanted to grow a massive Willie Nelson or something but the flower time was 14+ weeks haha! Realistically I will not be able to grow a plant like that (don't think I have enough flowering time), but I will try to find a few really good producers and get them in the ground. Hopefully I will make it for this season.

Currently I have something like 75 bags of promix (not the bales) sitting in a mini greenhouse up there. I've stored up for a long time when I was attempting to make some raised grow beds for tomatoes one year. All bags are sealed up still. As far as the environment is concerned it's located about the 38th latitude. I have a few containers of organic tea that I've made up. Its the same stuff I've used indoors for the past 5 years. I usually make a fresh container each grow season. All the soil I use stock I mix in 20% earth worm castings for that light N boost to avoid N def. As far as the teas are concerned I have one that provides a strong N boost, and then my flower tea.

ZZ, thank you brother. I really hope I can get a few plants going this season. It would be a huge help for us haha. Worst case, if I miss this outdoor season I'll get going indoors again.

Phil, will do bro.

GP, sounds like a plan bro! I will have to go visit a friend and get a few cuts of UV, get some purp beauties.

OO, sounds like a plan brother! I'd need more help than I could ever ask for or imagine haha!

Ginyu, amen my friend! 20 seems like a good number and would allow for enough meds to last us until the next season. I'm not trying to whine, but the pharma depression meds I was prescribed made the problem worse. It would be nice to have my natural meds back.


Thank you all for the advice, and help. I hope this season will be up and running outdoors. If not I think I'll get a scrog started pretty soon.

 

[Leroy Brown]

Yes definitly run at least 20 considering your inexperience (Outdoors & this location). The guys that suggest running 3-5 in your situation are crazy, yeah you would be fine to end up with 3-5, but you need to expect to lose a few. The advice about scattering them in different plots far away is key.

Shit, you said you're just in it to get some smoke, so won't suggest you blow it up, but you could always blow it up to give yourself some protection against hard losses, shit if it comes down to it you could chuck a bunch & just harvest the cola's, would make for some mighty easy trimmin'

 

[TommytheCat]

Yes definitly run at least 20 considering your inexperience (Outdoors & this location). The guys that suggest running 3-5 in your situation are crazy, yeah you would be fine to end up with 3-5, but you need to expect to lose a few. The advice about scattering them in different plots far away is key.

Shit, you said you're just in it to get some smoke, so won't suggest you blow it up, but you could always blow it up to give yourself some protection against hard losses, shit if it comes down to it you could chuck a bunch & just harvest the cola's, would make for some mighty easy trimmin'

Yeah bro this is my biggest concern here. I'd like enough herb to last me a little while. I don't want to run out before I can get my indoor cabinets up and running fully again.

I'd like to have a little protection against running out. I don't smoke a whole lot, and the person I also share meds with does not require much at all. Just enough to help some aching joints, and muscles.

 

[Don Dump]

I would say start 25 seeds. half will be male. lose a few to pests. end up with around 10 females. should get at least 100g per plant with minimal care. 1000g plus hash from the trim will last me a while