Going with Happy Frog - Fox Farm Anything I should know?

[SOTF420]

I'm growing my Sweet Tooth ladies in a FFOF and coir mix with roughly 25% chunky perlite and hydroton then plenty of generous amounts of natural amendments like fish meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, bone meal, epsoma biotone, dolomite lime, and some myco innoculant.

Fed all through 30 days veg with just RO water, Maxi-Crop liquid seaweed & organic un-sulphured molasses. I also use a few drops of superthrive per gallon all through veg.

Results were outstanding, biggest fastest & healthiest growing plants I have ever had and they were extremely dark green all through veg, early and mid flower and just now starting to show some fan leaf color fade around week 5 flowering which is perfect.

You can see my grow in my sig link below!

 

[Hammerhead]

I have used it for years with fantastic results. I used OF,LW with sunshine mix#2, Lime, Perlite, Worm castings and bat Guano all mixed up. Never gave me any problems and grew me some ginormous quality plants. We all have are own experiences with it. I will always use FF mediums until I find something better.

 

[HerbToker]

I have had great results using either of or happy frog mixed with promix bx.nothing but water through veg then floranova and calmag during bloom.nice flush great weed.

 

[Baba Ku]

Having read any number of your posts I can understand your confusion.

Thanks for sharing.

Or something similar.

I suggest you explain it to me.
Otherwise, I have to assume you are only here to stir shit. Because what you provided meant a whole bunch of nothing...stated as if it meant something. It didn't.
You want to stir some shit there smartass, or do you want to talk about the subject at hand?
It is clear to me that you may have worked bagging soil somewhere and think that qualifies you to know what planet you are on.
It doesn't.

 

[robbiedublu]

my general experiance with Fox Farms is that it needs very little nutes. the Ocean Forest and HF are packed full of good stuff...as soon as i hit 400 ppm i get nute burn.....

ive grown good buds using the FF soils and barely using any nutes....and give them a good mix....OF plus HF plus lightwarrior and some chunky perlite is the shit...

ive been using FF soil for a few years now and never had problems with fungas gnats. my worst fungas gnat infestation was with hydroton and cococoir...

To each his own, but when I was 1st starting out I got fungus gnats from foxfarm soil. No doubt because thats all I was using.Took me a year to get those bastards out of my room. No issues for several years since switching to canna coco. Read the thread and see that multiple folks have had similar issues. I guess you're just lucky.

 

[Kcar]

You mean one of these?

Cornell Peat-lite Mix

Mix 1/2 cubic meter each of sphagnum peat moss and perlite or vermiculite. Add 6kg dolomitic limestone, 2.4 kg ammonium nitrate, 1.5 kg superphosphate, and 0.3 kg potassium chloride (omit if using vermiculite).

Cornell Foliage Plant Mix

The Cornell Foliage Plant Mix was developed for those plant that need a growing medium with high moisture-retention characteristics. Plants having a fine root system or possessing many fine root hairs are included in this group.

Material 1 cubic meter
Sphagnum peat moss (screened 1/2 inch mesh) 0.5
Horticultural vermiculite (No. 2) 0.25
Perlite (medium grade) 0.25
Ground dolomitic limestone 4.9 kg
Superphosphate 20% (powdered) 1.2 kg
Fertilizer (10-10-10) 1.6 kg
Iron sulfate 0.4 kg
Potassium nitrate (14-0-44) 0.6 kg
Granular wetting agent 0.9 kg

Cornell Epiphytic Mix

The Cornell Epiphytic Mix was developed for plants that require good drainage, aeration and have the ability to withstand drying between warterings. Plants having coarse, tuberous, or rhizomatous roots are in this category.

Material 1 cubic meter
Sphagnum peat moss (screened 1/2 inch mesh) 0.33
Douglas, red or white fir bark* (about 0.5 cm size) 0.33
Perlite (medium grade) 0.25
Ground dolomitic limestone 4.2 kg
Superphosphate 20% (powdered) 2.7 kg
Fertilizer (10-10-10) 1.5 kg
Iron sulfate 0.3 kg
Potassium nitrate (14-0-44) 0.5 kg
Granular wetting agent 0.9 kg

* Fir bark comes from Douglas fir, white or red fir, or redwood, ground and screened to a definite size. Finally ground bark (about 0.5 cm) has a dry weight of about 200 g per liter cube. Fresh bark has a pH of about 5.0. Upon weathering, it becomes slightly more alkaline. The bark contains some nutrients, but these will not meet the requirements of growing plants.


Ya could've just said so instead of being such a dick.

 

[Hovz]

I'm still quite a beginner grower myself even though i probably have 6 or 7 grows under my belt. I've had good results with FFOF and FFHF. This thread was helpful because i've never ph'd my water before and now i know to ph to 6.5 when using FF soil. I might try the Moonshine mix also that sounds like a foolproof method.

 

[hempluvr]

I use half FFOF half HF and I add my own perelite,lime,more guano and only feed guano tea and ALL organic boosters. C99 bx1 from Mosca Seeds......mmmmmm....pineapple goodness!!! ALL Organic,TLO style!!!!! Almost forgot....I don`t PH shit!

 

[Hovz]

I use half FFOF half HF and I add my own perelite,lime,more guano and only feed guano tea and ALL organic boosters. C99 bx1 from Mosca Seeds......mmmmmm....pineapple goodness!!! ALL Organic,TLO style!!!!! Almost forgot....I don`t PH shit!

How much lime do you add?

 

[SubZero Hero]

To each his own, but when I was 1st starting out I got fungus gnats from foxfarm soil. No doubt because thats all I was using.Took me a year to get those bastards out of my room. No issues for several years since switching to canna coco. Read the thread and see that multiple folks have had similar issues. I guess you're just lucky.

Are you even serious? if you run your climate well dry they will leave.Dont think your gnat problem was the soil even if you got a bag with them in it.your humidity was waY too high.

 

[tonsoffuns419]

cc trolls pretty hard. it must be exhausting typing so much without a relevant point or even a real direction. but i digress, some people have had great experiences with HF and OF and others who rebuke it but i think there is only one solution to this thread.....hydro ftw

 

[intotheunknown]

if i were all of you knocking on what CC is saying id reconsider.
this guy knows wtf hes talking about. and like he said im sure hes forgotten more than you know.
listen up.

 

[SubZero Hero]

if i were all of you knocking on what CC is saying id reconsider.
this guy knows wtf hes talking about. and like he said im sure hes forgotten more than you know.
listen up.

It's hard to listen to someone who say's nothing and takes two paragraphs to do so.regaurdless of what he knows he did not come to this thread to help he came to troll.Thats the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.If he offered usefull,helpfull info then maybe he would have been listened to but all he did was say ff is bad and your stupid bla bla bla. yea thats real helpful,

 

[Baba Ku]

In my experience, those who have true wisdom don't usually need, or want, to boast it to others.

It also seems that those that do boast their superior wisdom, are usually just pricks that are way too smart by half. Halfwit pricks, for short.

And...even if a half wit prick does have some wisdom to offer, I generally choose not to follow it just on the principle that it came from a prick. I think I'll get by just fine, even if I ignore the brightest prick in the pack.

 

[robbiedublu]

Are you even serious? if you run your climate well dry they will leave.Dont think your gnat problem was the soil even if you got a bag with them in it.your humidity was waY too high.

Multiple threads with hundreds of posts on here from people with fungus gnat problems. Nice that you have the simple answer. They don't just spring into existance out of thin air though. If it's a humidity issue then why is it not a humidity issue with canna coco?The fact remains, fungus gnats from ff soil products.

 

[SubZero Hero]

Multiple threads with hundreds of posts on here from people with fungus gnat problems. Nice that you have the simple answer. They don't just spring into existance out of thin air though. If it's a humidity issue then why is it not a humidity issue with canna coco?The fact remains, fungus gnats from ff soil products.

dude what are you missing? dryer climate = no gnats
gnats are everywhere,not just in bags of dirt.fix your enviroment you fix your gnat problem.Why would I care about how many posts there are regaurding gnats? the solution is simple for everyone.Keep humidity down and your area clean the gnats will leave by choice.or hang a no pest strip.they work too.
I've used ffof and happy frog.for years,Im on the east coast.Ive never ever had a gnat problem.I've had gnats though. it's just I found by lowering humidity and cleaning up that the gnats leave.So give it a try.you'll like the results

 

[hempluvr]

How much lime do you add?

It`s pretty hard to overdue it on the lime,especially when its mixed in real well. I mix my soil for at least 20-30 minutes and I don`t really measure. I add a lot but mix well. Then I add a ton of perilite to put some cut on the soil and help with drainage. Foxy likes to get quite compact at times. Whitney Farms makes an excellent FAST acting lime. Some lime is not readily available and must sit for a few weeks b4 it is available to the plant. Whitney`s shit is ready almost instantly.

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

The question from a simpleton generally requires a simple answer and I'm more than willing to provide that for you.

I saw little, if any, reason to respond to your query as it was/is obvious that you lack the basic intellectual capacity to discuss anything relative to botany or soil biology and since I can't/won't deal with stoner science I gave your earnest and hopeless question the amount of input it deserved.

You're welcome. As usual.

CC_2U

You are a complete moron with no factual information, just speculation. I myself have used FFOF and RO side by side. Guess what, FFOF did not even come close. Roots werent as explosive as the RO either. Both got the same compost tea. Also, like I have said before, a bunch of us in trinity got root rot at the same time with an early 2010 batch of FFOF. All of us had different methods. At that same time my grandparents 200 miles away started getting root rot as well.

Like an old friend said about the RO people(he knows them). "They are a bunch of idiots, but somehow they got their mixture right and that is why I use it. Saves me time and effort."

Maybe you should stop being a complete dick and actually shed some light. Your condescending responses aren't useful to anybody here. You hype yourself up with unwanted "your welcomes" and talking shit when you have nothing to show for any of it. You should take your attitude to Maury Povich cause he would be the only one listening to your dumb ass "you don't know me, I do what I want" attitude.

 

[Iron_Lion]

if i were all of you knocking on what CC is saying id reconsider.
this guy knows wtf hes talking about. and like he said im sure hes forgotten more than you know.
listen up.

That's great, but people come here to learn, teach and/or propagate the organic lifestyle not be chased off by some soil nazi with a bad case of hemorrhoids. Bad attitudes get us no where. With that being said, I've had good results from using all sorts of fox farm organic products, they may not be perfect, you just have to know how to use them.

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

Yeah, I have to put this out there. I used to get great results with FFOF, and my 09 outdoor was with a happy frog/perlite mix and that had a very productive vegetative state, but my budding wasn't as great. I was a super noob with organics and had limited money amongst other problems.

With FFOF, try the old Earth Juice tea formula. Works great, tastes great!