How to get frosty buds

[Midnight]

I am just going in to the last two weeks of my current grow and am flushing with plain water, no nutes. What can I do to get the frostynes up on the buds?

 

[bigwity]

use mollassas in your flush water

 

[Midnight]

use mollassas in your flush water

Thanks bw, I did that last grow and I don't think it made that much of a difference. It could have been my ratio though, I used 1ml per gallon.

 

[alwaystoned_1]

its down to genetics weather you get really frosty buds or not

 

[GREENSMOKE]

Ya.
What strain u got going?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Increase lighting, increase finishing times, or find new genetics.

These are the only ways I have achieved frostier buds.

 

[Midnight]

Ya.
What strain u got going?

It's a private strain that a couple of us are growing out for a breeder. It's a cross between GDP and Humboldt Skunk. When I grew it out last time I had one plant that was frosty as hell, the others not so much.

 

[TB Gardens]

Molasses isn't going to give u frostier buds, that poster is misinformed. It's food for the herd more or less. Genetics = resin ... Mostly that is. I used to use Humboldts Purple Max, did nothing for purpling but it def did increase resin production. I have only used it throughout the entire flower period, so I cannot say if it will have any effect just being applied in flush. Unfortunately u are prob out of luck this run, as time is pretty much up. I know u said u grew this before& resin production was much better.. So it has to be ur environment/stress if resin production is lower this run. Or maybe u just popped a less productive phenotype. Hoe were the temps this run compared to others? I DEF notice temps above 85* drastically decreases resin production.. But then again it really differs strain to strain. Good luck, still look like killer colas!

 

[bigwity]

cal + mag helps towards trich production doesnt it?

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

i have found that plants that are the greenest in veg and do not have any deficiencies tend to end up the best looking most potent plants. during each feeding i add botanicare liquid karma every time. once the plants start to flower, i give them a shot of advanced nutrients Bud Blood. After that, every feeding, i give the plants a.n. Big Bud and occasionally give them some grow nutrients. The plant still need nitrogen during flower because if they didn't, they would just suck the juice out of the leaves and slowly die. During the final weeks of flowering, i give the plants a.n. overdrive and botanicare cns17 ripe. every two weeks, i use botanicare clearex to clean any excess salts out of the plants. After this flush i add some cal-mag to help.

I did an experiment last grow in which i didn't give the plants any of the advanced nutrients. i only fed the plant liquid karma and fox farm tiger bloom. i also added in some molasses. well, the plants were just as potent but i lost 1/2 of the mass that i usally have. if anybody isn't worried about using chem ferts, advanced nutrients is the best shit out there. i won't grow anything without using it again.

 

[Butte_Creek]

ime:
-colder dark periods(beware though because of the mild environmental stress it could definitely effect yield and create an environment prone to PM, but i get them to frost up when i can't keep the dark period warm).
-molasses(seems to work and i'll probably continue to use it for ever as it's just a good organic bloom supplement. maybe a resin pusher, but i get a gallon for 4$ bulk at a local hydro store so it doesn't hurt. blackstrap molasses is a source of cal, mag, potassium, and iron, and the sugar feeds your bacteria, great stuff anyways.)
-humic and fulvic acids(humics seem to definitely work for me, and have heard some other respectable growers on the site report the same, humic/fulvic is just a great supplement in general anyways.)

i think if you're running a strain and barely getting her to produce any resin, majority of the problem is genetics. the above mentioned methods only help to an extent; help a strain that already gets resinous become a sticky mess. mild environmental stress will provoke the plant to produce resin, but when does resin become that important to trump plant health and yield? imo proper plant health is the first priority, only when a plant is truly healthy can it show it's full genetic potential.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

those plants pictured also look to have a bit a droop like they have been over watered over time. any truth to what i am saying? if so, that would definitely affect the potency.

 

[Midnight]

I think I tend to agree with the "genetics" crowd. Last run I did this strain and another strain. This strain had one pheno that was frosty as hell. I reveged it but have not grown anything out with it yet. The other strain from the last run was pretty damned frosty, all of it. As for my temps, they are 76-78 with lights on, 65-68 lights off. I used the GH 3 part and the "useless formula" for my feeding schedule.

 

[Midnight]

those plants pictured also look to have a bit a droop like they have been over watered over time. any truth to what i am saying? if so, that would definitely affect the potency.

No, I took the pics just before they were do for their water and feed. They were drooping from wanting water. I have one plant that will droop when it gets even the slightest bit dry, when that happens it's time to water everybody.

EDIT: Ok, I misred your question. Actually they were over watered. I had the person who's strain it is look at them and that is what he said also. So anyways, that was why they were so dry in that pic. I had started only watering when I saw them droop. I don't know about it affecting the potency but I know it reduced the yield for sure.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

it definitely would have affected trichome production

 

[madback]

It's a private strain that a couple of us are growing out for a breeder. It's a cross between GDP and Humboldt Skunk. When I grew it out last time I had one plant that was frosty as hell, the others not so much.

there is your answer right there man... you need to find the frosty ones!

 

[pearlemae]

It the genes more than anything you can do, you can make them bigger, sweeter but it the genes more than anything you can do.

 

[ManitobaMedical]

It all about the genes get some better beans if you not satisfied with your current crops , quality beans =quality meds,
Manitoba

 

[SOTF420]

If you want FROSTY you can spray them in water and put buds the freezer until they show frost.

Seriously though, if you want trich covered buds grow some Sweet Tooth

 

[Marquis de Sod]

one mL per gallon? that is like nothing. try 5ml. or 15. one guy is using 30/gal but i think he's growing outside. not sure, but that seems like a lot. but 1ml/gal you might as well not even use it.

ps that silver haze looks mighty good down there always. not using anything special you want to tell us about?