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laylow

Ok so everyone is always arguing about what the most efficient way to grow vertical, flat, sog, scrog, hydro, coco, organic bla bla bla....

What I want to know is this, For augment sake I'm going to say you have a flowering space of 10ft x 10ft x 8ft tall, please bear in mind you have to be able to work in the space provided

Any plant number and Plants could come rooted with a maximum preveg of 10days...

You can have a gazillion watts if you think it will help....

The return is over a year 365 days so 6 grows at 60 days with no veg time or longer if you think it will help

Strain wise let's call it a 60 day flower or 70 if you can prove it will compensate yield wise

What way would you grow to get the most amount of bud that's the question....

Have fun with it:tiphat:
 

allouez

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I have no clue. One wild idea that comes to mind, probably a stupid idea: maybe fill the room with shelves? I mean, sort of dividing the room up to two separate 4' high tiers, so to speak. Have a 2x10 foot walkway down the middle of the room. Then on both sides of the walkway, have two canopies that are 8x4x4 feet. (one on top of the other) A 1000w HPS per each 4x4 area, making for eight HPS bulbs in the room. At least one plant per square foot of canopy. Maybe substitute one or more of the 1000 watters for 600 watters and go 3x3 for those areas to help make more space for equipment and such.

Or maybe a stadium style grow, like Heath's high plant count stadium grow(s?). Multiple stadiums for that space. Maybe stadium isn't the right word... I mean a hydro set up where the plants are stacked directly on top of each other and are angled to the light, rather than like a bowl type stadium.
 
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DiiZZii3

a gazzillion watts eh? hang that shit bare bulb with a 1000 watt bulb in every available space. When you look up you shoud see no ceiling, just light bulbs. u could prolly fit around 400 bare bulb 1000 watters in there. Heat might be a small issue tho lol its the right answer but prolly not the one u were looking for. mabey try and do some research on you own.
 
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laylow

I have no clue. One wild idea that comes to mind, probably a stupid idea: maybe fill the room with shelves? I mean, sort of dividing the room up to two separate 4' high tiers, so to speak. Have a 2x10 foot walkway down the middle of the room. Then on both sides of the walkway, have two canopies that are 8x4x4 feet. (one on top of the other) A 1000w HPS per each 4x4 area, making for eight HPS bulbs in the room. At least one plant per square foot of canopy. Maybe substitute one or more of the 1000 watters for 600 watters and go 3x3 for those areas to help make more space for equipment and such.

Or maybe a stadium style grow, like Heath's high plant count stadium grow(s?). Multiple stadiums for that space. Maybe stadium isn't the right word... I mean a hydro set up where the plants are stacked directly on top of each other and are angled to the light, rather than like a bowl type stadium.

What you describing above was a stadium with the shelves and the other bowl type setup would be classed as a coliseum :) thanks for the input cool ideas

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a gazzillion watts eh? hang that shit bare bulb with a 1000 watt bulb in every available space. When you look up you shoud see no ceiling, just light bulbs. u could prolly fit around 400 bare bulb 1000 watters in there. Heat might be a small issue tho lol its the right answer but prolly not the one u were looking for. mabey try and do some research on you own.

I've been researching marijuana for 12 years this was jut a bit of fun on the off chance someone might show me something new... Thanks anyway :)
 
a gazzillion watts eh? hang that shit bare bulb with a 1000 watt bulb in every available space. When you look up you shoud see no ceiling, just light bulbs. u could prolly fit around 400 bare bulb 1000 watters in there. Heat might be a small issue tho lol its the right answer but prolly not the one u were looking for. mabey try and do some research on you own.

no, there is actually such a thing as too much lumens, I ran into that recently.

I would run a SOG method with maybe 90 watts per squarefoot, say 9 x 1000 probably air cooled top down lighting

Actually it would be a very efficient system too, just dont get caught with high plant numbers ....
 

imadoofus

Active member
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i second that, SOG would be the best for yield. bare-bulbed 1k for every 4ft squared, mixed spectrum.

ENTIRE room mylared. floors,ceiling, even grandma and that 'effin dog would get a coat.
 
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DiiZZii3

no, there is actually such a thing as too much lumens, I ran into that recently.

I would run a SOG method with maybe 90 watts per squarefoot, say 9 x 1000 probably air cooled top down lighting

Actually it would be a very efficient system too, just dont get caught with high plant numbers ....

Lol i was being a smart ass and now i feel dumb lol. Ur absolutly right, my idea is terrible, not a chance shit would grow haha
 

The Phoenix

Risen From The Ashes
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I'm currently running Sour Bubble, which is a rather low yielder in its natural state.

Running 42 plants per 1kw bulb in SOG. Each plant is in 2 gallon pots and I'm shooting to clear 48 oz's per bulb or 1.14 oz's per plant dry.

If your not clearing 1 gram per watt in your indoor garden, then there is room for improvement. Consider that your goal for success, and it can be done with SOG. Concentrate getting your weight off the main cola. Most plants should clear an oz per 2 gal container, so you just need the plant numbers and the right hood to make it work. I run a 6x7 pot configuration under 1kw with 2 gallon.

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The Phoenix

Risen From The Ashes
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I like the stadium and circular Freezerboy, but as with any increase in square footage, those config's are more effective under multiple bulbs. 64 sq ft is pushing the 1 kw bulb to the limit.

In that SOG configuration, most of those plants are shifted around to change the light pattern every water cycle.
 

Aerohead

space gardener
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People suggesting sogs aren't thinking about using the height of the room. The OP did say most weed from that space. My vote would be stadium style using 9X 1k, 3 wide stacked 3 high using 6' of the room width as to leave 2' on each side to shimmy around and train/trim from the back side.
 

Orygun

Member
maybe a double tiered sog with four 10x4 ebb and flow tables with 4 air-cooled 600s over each table. there would be a two foot walk way down the center to maintain your plants and such. that would be a grow area of a 160 square feet which seems pretty good to me.
 

The Phoenix

Risen From The Ashes
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The stadium config is nice but I cant see running 9 kw in a 10x10 floorspace Aerohead.

I'd rather partition the room in half and run one 1kw ballast in flip flop, or two 600wt digi ballasts in flip flop. Those bulbs will max out those partitions with a ton of weed at much less cost than the stadium. SOG is a piece of cake to run and gives one of the biggest bangs for the buck indoors.

If money was no object then.....
 

Aerohead

space gardener
Veteran
Yes, might have been the last bowl i smoked talkin, that's alotta wattage for 10 X 10... But if you had a vent fan the size of a volkswagen, it might work...
 
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laylow

maybe a double tiered sog with four 10x4 ebb and flow tables with 4 air-cooled 600s over each table. there would be a two foot walk way down the center to maintain your plants and such. that would be a grow area of a 160 square feet which seems pretty good to me.

i done this before but with pots and trays growing in coco was a very efficient way of growing didnt have the aircooled hoods tho and its def a strain dependant setup... anything that remotely stretches and your in trouble....
 

foaf

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I grow for maximum pot per square foot. I don't think anyone else has ever gotten as much pot in as small of a space as that posted in my sig, 4 lbs in a 4 x 3 x tall space. My current grow is really looking great too, link, but it is not a heavy yeilder and there is still a long way to go.

I use tons of light, side lighting, and cooled lighting, and for my best weight - co2.
 

qbert

Member
Strain wise let's call it a 60 day flower or 70 if you can prove it will compensate yield wise

Strain wise what is most important are its growing characteristics. Some grow short some grow tall, some bushy some slim.

If you have strain to run then the method should accommodate that's strains particular bent. If not, then remember to look for a variety that will grow as you've planned your room for.
 
4 cylinders on wheels with a 5x5 footprint, triple or quadruple stacked 600s in cool tubes.. plant numbers unlimited, veg 0 days if clones are all perfectly rooted.. whatever medium you want.. whatever you best grow in.. vertical will win by a lonshot.. :)

maintain with the lights off, or build a 8 foot flooded tube design like heath robinson and youll only have to go "inside" once in a blue moon, especially with 0 day veged plants
 
i forget the username but i know the thread is called half million dollar mmj facility (search is broken for me) he should put his two cents in on this matter
 

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