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nogoodname

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I am currently using LC'S mix#2 with fishmeal and kelp meal. I need to make a batch quicklike. Question is, do I still add the dolomite lime as I don't have 2 weeks to let it sit? I was thinking I would make a compost tea today, mist the soil mix tomorrow, give it an additional day of sitting, then plant with it. I also could just use oyster shell flower and no lime, and anticipate on using a little epsom salt when needed? What do you guys think the best option is here? Thanks!
 
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vonforne

Add the lime.

With the fish meal the soil will heat up a bit. It is to early to plant in it. If you do.......you will have problems.

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nogoodname

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Sounds good, thanks. In the mean time I will just used a little sunshine advanced with kelp meal, ewc, and mushroom compost.

While I'm at it... What's everyone's favorite addition to the LC'S 2 mix? I know some people have had issues with the bone and bloodmeal fertilizer additives. Anyone nail that mix yet? I have a couple that were just put in, 1 week ago in a similar mix of fertilizers. I lean towards the guano's, but has anyone had more luck, ease, ect with the mixed into the soil guanos or guano teas? I've read hours of threads on here(just never post) and I basically just want peoples advice/experience with the LC's 2 mix. Also I plan on using the 3lb recycling soil mix. I have heard people naysay doing this with Sunshine(peat based) mix. Why??? I have tried FFOF cut with LW, as well as Roots, and just prefer SS, will it really affect my recycled soil?
 
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tr1ck_

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I am using LC#2 with FFoF as a base. I have EWC bone/blood/kelp meal, and rock dust. It seems to be going really well so far. (But I'm fairly noob and only have a handful of smaller soil grows to compare to)

If I had to pick a favorite ingredient it would be EWC, followed by kelp.
 
Scrappy4

Scrappy4

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I don't think your term, favorite ingredient, means much here. The mixes components are complete when used as a group, so picking one ingredient without the others would throw it off the balance, does that make sense?

I'm not sure about your reusing the soil comments, but I will say using a diverse mix works well, so maybe adding compost, and things like rock dusts to your mix would look more long term, if that is your plan....scrappy
 
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nogoodname

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Let me clarify by favorite addition as I put it. It was in reference to the recipes that generally accompany the LC's Mixes. I.E. guano teas, bone meal bloodmeal, mixing guano in the soil, ect. I am very well aware of the complex nature of soil microbes and the soil food web. I was just asking if anyone had a preference or better results when using a combination versus another, Basically looking for anyone with experience to share. I am currently leaning towards the guano teas with LC's mix.
 
grapeman

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portpunk said:
Use the oyster shell flour and get some k-mag
Save the dolomite for your lawn
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That might cause a problem if his mix is peat based don't ya think?


I'll be the first to bite here.

Favorite ingredient = Azomite.

not necessary to grow with but it makes your mix a bit better.
 
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nogoodname

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Azomite...yes. I was actually thinking about adding azomite, rock phosphate, and greensand as I plan on recycling my soil. Question is, what rate should I add each per gallon? I was under the impression that you would add these at a rate of about 1 T per gallon of soil mix, so would you use all at that rate or cut it back to 1 t each? (3t = 1T)
I also plan on adding some biochar(5%) to my mix after soaking it in a AACT.
 
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CC_2U

nogoodname

Mix your minerals (rock dusts if you prefer) at equal levels by volume and not by weight. Mix thoroughly and apply at the 1 T per gallon rate you were planning on originally. I would probably go with 1.5 or 2 T per gallon but that's just me. At 2 T per gallon that would give you about 1/2 cup to 1 c.f. of soil. Sort of.

While greensand is a very fine soil amendment for a farmer or gardener looking to build a soil over the long term. It's effectiveness in a 12 - 14 week container cycle is minimal at best.

I'd opt for glacial rock dust and if you can get that product (about $12.00 for 50 lbs.) then you would want to separate that from your mix as you'll want to add what many would consider a massive amount (like 1 cup to 1 gallon of soil). But that's another story for another day perhaps.

HTH

CC_2U
 
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tr1ck_

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CC_2U said:
I'd opt for glacial rock dust and if you can get that product (about $12.00 for 50 lbs.) then you would want to separate that from your mix as you'll want to add what many would consider a massive amount (like 1 cup to 1 gallon of soil). But that's another story for another day perhaps.

HTH

CC_2U
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Could you elaborate about the rate you add glacial rock dust? I have this in my mix, however I mixed it at 2tbs/gallon thinking it was similar to Azomite.

Look like I will be adding a lot more after I re-amend :)

(While I am talking to you, I was told to ask you for a place to get red wigglers, I cannot PM so hopefully the OP does not mind)
 
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CC_2U

trick_

If you were to buy worm cocoons from Blue Ridge Vermiculture you can save a ton of money.

Around here red wigglers sell for $25.00 - $35.00 per lb. There are 'about' 1,000 adult worms in a pound. That's the claim anyway.

For the price of 2 lbs. of worms you could buy 3,000 cocoons for $55.00 (delivered price) which would give you about 15,000 - 18,000 worms when they hatch and move to the point where they can reproduce - you'll end up with 15 - 18 lbs. in a few weeks.

On the application rate of Gaia Green Canadian Glacial Rock Dust here's a link to the label.

Heh...........

CC_2U
 
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nogoodname

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CC_2U said:
nogoodname


While greensand is a very fine soil amendment for a farmer or gardener looking to build a soil over the long term. It's effectiveness in a 12 - 14 week container cycle is minimal at best.

I'd opt for glacial rock dust and if you can get that product (about $12.00 for 50 lbs.) then you would want to separate that from your mix as you'll want to add what many would consider a massive amount (like 1 cup to 1 gallon of soil). But that's another story for another day perhaps.

HTH

CC_2U
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I definately plan on building my soil long term. Hence the use of biochar as well. As far as the glacial rock dust, would you use only that or in conjunction with azomite/rock phosphate/greensand? I think I may up the amount to 2T as you recommended.
 
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vonforne

FWIW, I use as many different rock powders or dusts in my soil mix. In Germany we have lots of different types. Like CC said I mix them all together and add about 2 TBS per 4 liters.

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grapeman

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nogoodname said:
Azomite...yes. I was actually thinking about adding azomite, rock phosphate, and greensand as I plan on recycling my soil. Question is, what rate should I add each per gallon? I was under the impression that you would add these at a rate of about 1 T per gallon of soil mix, so would you use all at that rate or cut it back to 1 t each? (3t = 1T)
I also plan on adding some biochar(5%) to my mix after soaking it in a AACT.
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I throw a cup of azomite in the mix per CF of soil
 
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