Always record your interactions with police!!!

[MasterKhufu]

I was busted a little while ago and I'm in court now, and they're really stickin it up my bunghole good, just stacking up the charges. I've been running the whole scenario in my mind again and again.

One thing that would totally have saved my ass was for me to have pushed record for the mic on my phone and recorded the whole interaction. There are so many lies in the police report it's freaking ridiculous. But now I have no proof. If I had only recorded it this case would be getting thrown out.

Now I am gonna train for my standard procedure anytime I get pulled over or anything. Any interaction at all with police. First thing I do is pull out my phone and hit record. I also make sure that there's a lock on the phone so even if they suspected I was recording they can't turn it off. I suppose they could smash it, but ideally I'll be doing this on the sly at the first hint I get that there will be an interaction, quick and smooth hit that mic, and if they look at it all they'll see is the lock and won't know shit about it recording every dirty lie they tell.

Now that they're bending me over my game is all about payback. One day I'm gonna get me a cop suspended. Or at the very least I'll get some future case thrown out and avoid jail which I might not be so lucky with this time. Gotta love that bacon. Thanks boys!

This one thing would have saved my ass bigtime. Highly recommended. Cops lie like motherfuckers. Catch them and turn the game in your favor.

 

[headiez247]

If at all possible, recording can def help. It certainly can't hurt you.

Are you in a good or bad state in terms bud? Assuming bad.

 

[MasterKhufu]

yeah bud it's bad. And bad for a bad state.

 

[ak-51]

If at all possible, recording can def help. It certainly can't hurt you.

I think it may be illegal in some states to record a conversation without the other persons consent/knowledge. Not sure, but it's worth checking into. If the police were playing dirty and ended up arresting you then you can bet when they find your phone recording it's not going to be recording any longer. You may not ever even get it back. There's ways of tying up property in the evidence room for long periods of time. If they're already playing dirty they may just go ahead and keep it up by deleting the recording.

I wonder if my phone can lock while recording? I'll be looking into that...

Edit: It didn't work, it stopped the recording as soon as I locked it. Maybe a different app will behave differently...

I would just take great pains to try to conceal the fact that you are recording them. They most certainly will not appreciate it. Since you can't be compelled to give them your unlock code they won't be looking at it themselves, and unless they have reason to think theres something special on it I doubt they would send it to the lab to have them extract info from it. Although the lock on my phone prevents access to the OS, I know you can just remove the micro sd card and plug it into anything and pull stuff off that. Since pretty much everything is set either by default or by me to save to the card, it would make retrieving that data pretty easy. Good thing I don't take pics or videos of my grow with my phone then.

 

[Weird]

many states made recording police arrest illegal and are charging people away who merely were witnessing the event

cant wait for some pro bono law organizations to get their acts together and addressing this shit

 

[bass ackwards]

In my state it is illegal to record your interactions with the police. How this law ever got passed is a mystery to me, but yet it is so.Anyone who voted for this law had to know the intent was to protect the cops so they can run roughshod over the rights of the citizens.

This law wasn't voted on by the general public though but rather by our esteemed politicians quietly.

Respect bass

 

[ComradeToker]

Yeah, be careful and check out your laws. In Illinois I believe you can get 15 years if both parties don't consent to a recorded mic conversation, But I believe you can video record without a officers consent. The hypocrisy in all of this is police record us with both those at any stop they do without our consent, and funny those crooks are still walking the streets. Good Luck, with the bullshit you gotta put up with.

 

[MasterKhufu]

Wow if that's true that's major fucked up. Police are public servants and as far as I know we as citizens have the right to record them anytime they are on duty. I've seen countless videos on youtube of people recording police with video and them absolutely hating it but they can't do shit about it.

 

[MasterKhufu]

Just looked it up it is illegal in Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland. Welcome to the police state.

 

[itisme]

many states made recording police arrest illegal and are charging people away who merely were witnessing the event

cant wait for some pro bono law organizations to get their acts together and addressing this shit

They are trying to make it illegal to film on duty cops. Some states only allow you to be recorded if everybody knows but that applies to wire tapping, not to protect on duty cops. They are trying to fuck us real hard. We can never let the PIGS make it illegal to film them as I have been treatened by a cop many times while in hand cuffs and making no resistance to arrest! They keep camereas on us but don't want to be put up to the same scrutiny. FUCK THAT SHIT

Here is a great article.

http://www.americablog.com/2010/06/3-states-make-it-illegal-to-film-cop.html

 

[itisme]

Just looked it up it is illegal in Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland. Welcome to the police state.

The FED wire tapping stipulation is meant to protect citizens from being invaded without knowledge, not so cops can beat the shit out of us or kill us with no recourse! A good lawyer may get this revised soon. I can garantee that the citizens of those states will pay an enourmous price to police brutality if they keep the cops hiden behind the wire tapping laws. Filming in the open public is not the same as tapping somebodies house.

So if you can't video on duty cops, I guess those states have to remove the cameras from their cars or they are violating the same laws. Not only that, shouldn't it apply to citiczens if it applies to cops??? How can they record us without our consent and use it on us in court??? See this is why the country I LOVE is going to the shitter!!!

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

That's incredible. The law specifically disallows a suspect from collecting the evidence to show that the charges are fraudulent. Freakin unbelievable.

 

[Jaymer]

Wiring is the bad boys dirty game and people get broken and murdered because of wire taps so be careful when trying.

Nicely ask for permission and make it known that you record all interactions with law enforcing officers due to your experience in self defense, how can self defense be refused and isn't that the point of cameras/mics to act as sort of a third witness so that right is already available to you and L.E.O. and I would just let them know that your exercising it for the protection of both party's involved.

 

[Hydrosun]

I think it may be illegal in some states to record a conversation without the other persons consent/knowledge. Not sure, but it's worth checking into. If the police were playing dirty and ended up arresting you then you can bet when they find your phone recording it's not going to be recording any longer. You may not ever even get it back. There's ways of tying up property in the evidence room for long periods of time. If they're already playing dirty they may just go ahead and keep it up by deleting the recording.

I wonder if my phone can lock while recording? I'll be looking into that...

Edit: It didn't work, it stopped the recording as soon as I locked it. Maybe a different app will behave differently...

I would just take great pains to try to conceal the fact that you are recording them. They most certainly will not appreciate it. Since you can't be compelled to give them your unlock code they won't be looking at it themselves, and unless they have reason to think theres something special on it I doubt they would send it to the lab to have them extract info from it. Although the lock on my phone prevents access to the OS, I know you can just remove the micro sd card and plug it into anything and pull stuff off that. Since pretty much everything is set either by default or by me to save to the card, it would make retrieving that data pretty easy. Good thing I don't take pics or videos of my grow with my phone then.

Police aren't persons they are agents of the state. We are ALWAYS allowed to film / record agents of the state as they abuse their powers.

You are correct that they may not like it but you are within your rights to record all interactions.

 

[greenmatter]

how many videos of police beating the hell out of some poor fool do we have to see before we realize what is going on. what ALWAYS shocks me about these situations is that they have video, but they don't take action against the police officer who was caught on tape. you can bet that if some stoner beat a cop on tape they would not be having any talks about suspension without pay. the game is rigged and it has been for a long time. more video evidence is something the police, pundits and political scum do not want and that goes double if you can actually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are in the wrong.

 

[igrowone]

a hidden recording device i can see being(possibly) illegal in some situations
but what about a plainly unconcealed camera/microphone at a residence's entrance?
i believe this is a very common practice - so i'd think the most police could do is to request the recording stop
not sure what the law says about this situation, maybe a state by state deal

 

[stihgnobevoli]

they sentenced a guy to 75 years for filming police just recently didnt they?

 

[alaskind]

MasterK- First of all Id like to say I feel for you....getting busted is so stressfull...try to let yourself see the light at the end of the tunnel. I would do a bit of research,or talk to your attourney before you record....one other thing- when the cops bust someone , they usually charge them with more offences than they think that they can prove...they do this so that they have more room in the plea barganing process....good luck and keep your chin up...

 

[kmk420kali]

You, as a Private Citizen, cannot record somebody without their knowledge, it will be inadmissible in Court-- I found this out when I recorded someone talking shit on the phone, (Bill Collector)--

 

[GrassRoots]

I thought it was admissible as long as one party was aware of the recording. As were the calls Monica Lewinski's friend recorded of Monica talking about her relationship with the President. Right? I could be wrong, that's just what I thought.