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stihgnobevoli

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2 days from the beginning of week 11 from seed, week 5 flower.

i changed the res out, i dont see any more fungus gnat larvae, i guess the fact that they had nothing to anchor themselves on and luck killed em, i cant explain it, either that or i was just trippin the whole time.

changed the res, feeding 2/6 again, set the pH to around 5.5 - 5.9 its below 6but higher than 5.5. i also used my last drop of pH test kit so i hope nothing drastic happens between now and when i can buy another bottle.
quick pic to show how theyre coming along. juanita on the left in this shot, misha on the right. as you can see starting flower on 10.5/13.5 helped juanita compared to last grow at this point she was still not even showing flowers yet.
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bud shot misha.
 

stihgnobevoli

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week 12 from seed / 6 of flower.

nothin much to report, i ran out of pH test kit so i havent been able to check the pH in a week. Its spring here now and the temps are up in my cab. time for a redesign or something battling some root rot, the roots arent looking completely brown anymore now just dingy yellow. juanita stopped stretching and ran into a nitrogen+ mag def. i assume it was the ph flux since misha didnt show much symptoms outside of some mag def and i know it uses more N than juanita which is mostly if not all sativa. i pruned all the bad leaves and i chopped some of the lower branches on misha couple of weeks back. frosting up nicely and moving into the final stretch when the weight packs on.

the 3 seedlings i added a couple weeks ago are doing better since i lowered the water, was too wet before ans stunting the root growth. 2 of em are doing good and one has shown male, the last seedling i added...i think might have been misha f3 is doing very bad not dying or anything but also not growing. i think its too wet. ill have to look into getting some of those clay balls.

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seedling A the girl (hope)
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seedling B the boy
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seedling C misha looking bad.
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couple group shots.
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Misha
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juanita.
 

hazydreams

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i think you've got a bit of a root problem brewing IMHO..... what are your water temps?

are you adding any beni's or H2o2 or bleach?
 

stihgnobevoli

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actually i added 10 drops of bleach as was suggested on here somewhere multiple times, like 2 days before, i look in the res again and see all the roots are brown. they werent slimy but they were brown and looked like they were softening up. i changed out the res immediately and fixed the pH back to around 6. and ive been letting it rise since. i figured between the brown roots and the yellow leaves either the pH is too low for absorbing mag and nitrogen or the roots are really bad and blocking everything. looking better now lemme find the picture i took sunday.

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i think these were monday or saturday.
 
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hazydreams

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i would continue adding the bleach at the directed for everyday. i cant remember the dosage for daily use. but honestly the problem is that crap is attached to the roots and changing the water out doesn't get rid of it. the re-adding of the bleach starts to win the battle but eradicating it once its in there is difficult.. i think they will hold out till week 8-9 if you get the jump on it.

you should monitor your root zone temps and if possible add a frozen soda bottle to lower the temp in the res.
 

303hydro

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Nice little set up you got there , for sure! Glad your getting some more feedback in the micro section...:good:

I don't want to come in here and just give you advice, but I promise I am qualified and I want to suggest two things that would take your set-up from a " good grow " to a " badd a$$ mother fu%^in micro grow"

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Just my opinion here all in love and good karma but I will speak freely:

GET RID OF THOSE BOULDERS YOU HAVE IN THE NETTY POTS.

Use loose rockwool, hydroton, coco, nothing at all, you could even just break up those rocks into about 1/10 of the size they are now.
You need more root mass, those cups should be stuffed.
More root mass = bigger faster growing plant, faster and easier nutrient uptake , more resistant,all sorts of things. I really doubt anyone is gonna argue this one so I will leave it at that.

I'm not sure if you have any access to any hydro stores or not, and I know money sounded like it wasn't always of easy access. Having said that if you can get your hands on either of these two products (or both) it would be like taking a gun to a sword fight.

1) Hygrozyme. ( Its expensive as hell and there is nothing quite like it, but it's well worth it. It keeps the roots system clean and healthy.

2) Rooting Mychorrizae. (Brands are Great White Shark, Plant-Success, White Widow, Roots Oregonism, other generic brands out there that are cheaper and 200% better than nothing at all but the GWS is the best IMO.) Basically helps breakdown nutrients and helps root resist disease and grow. Much more beneficial in soil and/or organic nutes but well worth a couple initial treatments in hydro or more if you can....

I would encourage you to research these products, I don't wanna spam so its up to you....

The fact that you have plants that look like you do with the roots looking like they do, it is honestly quite impressive. I think if you dialed in your roots it would be scary good.
 

ProfGerbik

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no offense, but you need to drop that setup space is fine im talking about the dwc bubbler you have. its horrible and your plants dont look as if they are really enjoying it either, i only say this because i had one, it held 10 gallons and held 6 plants, what a freaking waste of money it was.

the net pots barely are stable, the lid on those horrible things break and arent easy to lift, if anything goes wrong trying to carry 6 fully grown plants on that shotty lid is just crazy, i hated every month i used that damn thing, wasted so much water and nutrients, horribly developed roots plants pushing eachother over and falling, they grew horribly and just straggly even with the perfect conditions, not one good thing i like about those.

i switched to the GH Drip and couldnt be happier, so easy to use, i can just top it off the entire grow without ever disturbing the roots. 1 plant grown in the drip grew better than all six combined in that dwc i had. ill never use those again.

you really should use the round clay pebbles not those large uneven rocks, really nothing for the roots to anchor themselves to, i can tell just by looking at all your photos you have a huge problem with that as almost all you plants are all leaning in some direction instead of standing tall and straight.

your actually pushing it very well though thats why id love to see you use something better, because i know you would love the results as well.
 

hazydreams

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in answering to the two posts above....


303-

i personally use lava rock and IMO there is nothing wrong with it. i prefer it to hydroton as its easier to wash and keep clean then a million clay balls. I HATE rock wool due in any type of DWC because of its ability to hold way more moisture then you need for DWC. ive seen stems rot because of this.

I absolutly would not use hygrozyme in a res that has rot already. i have done this and not only did it NOT stop the rot it almost seemed to accelerate it. its a moot point anyway as hes adding bleach which takes benis and beni driven enzymes out of the equation.

Prof-
dont discount the bubbler buckets. i have used and so have many others to great success. The problem here is that in order to run something like this YOU NEED to have the proper operating conditions. If the res temps are high, it invites baddies. you can work around this with a dead res or adding benis BEFORE rot happens. But after your pretty limited to fighting a losing battle.

Sting - I hope this pans out for you and you dont shy away from dro. It is a superior method in my humble opinion, once you control the necessary parameters hydro will dwarf soil yeilds.
 

303hydro

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in answering to the two posts above....


303-

i personally use lava rock and IMO there is nothing wrong with it. i prefer it to hydroton as its easier to wash and keep clean then a million clay balls. I HATE rock wool due in any type of DWC because of its ability to hold way more moisture then you need for DWC. ive seen stems rot because of this.

I absolutly would not use hygrozyme in a res that has rot already. i have done this and not only did it NOT stop the rot it almost seemed to accelerate it. its a moot point anyway as hes adding bleach which takes benis and beni driven enzymes out of the equation.

I never said lava rock was a problem. I was purely talking about the size of the rocks he is using (vs size of net cup and size of plants), and even suggested to just break them up in smaller pieces. I don't think there is any logic or experience that could negate that suggestion. You have a valid point on the rockwool but I would bet his roots would look better if he was using horticubes vs what he is now..

On the Hygrozyme, I must have missed part about adding the bleach-Glad you corrected me on that.

You can use h2o2 instead of bleach as an compatible alternative which I think would be fine in a system that size that could be dumped often. I disagree with you that it won't help already established root rot because I have found it will, you just have to dump the rez everyday for about 5 days when you start applying it.....If you just dump it in and let it sit, bad things happen.
 

ProfGerbik

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in answering to the two posts above....


303-

i personally use lava rock and IMO there is nothing wrong with it. i prefer it to hydroton as its easier to wash and keep clean then a million clay balls. I HATE rock wool due in any type of DWC because of its ability to hold way more moisture then you need for DWC. ive seen stems rot because of this.

I absolutly would not use hygrozyme in a res that has rot already. i have done this and not only did it NOT stop the rot it almost seemed to accelerate it. its a moot point anyway as hes adding bleach which takes benis and beni driven enzymes out of the equation.

Prof-
dont discount the bubbler buckets. i have used and so have many others to great success. The problem here is that in order to run something like this YOU NEED to have the proper operating conditions. If the res temps are high, it invites baddies. you can work around this with a dead res or adding benis BEFORE rot happens. But after your pretty limited to fighting a losing battle.

Sting - I hope this pans out for you and you dont shy away from dro. It is a superior method in my humble opinion, once you control the necessary parameters hydro will dwarf soil yeilds.

yes keyword so many others, not that dwc setup, clearly your ops dont even use that type so to sit and say it works when you havent used it or arent currently doesnt say much other than im right. there is something wrong with plants looking the way yours and his does in early stages of growth.. that causes stress, the more stress, the less growth, the less growth, the less roots, the less roots, poor buds and not so worth it plants.

not to be an asshole but i looked at your pictures and it appears you need to stop using lava rocks also, i dont know who started that but both of you guys plants look the same with poorly developed roots.

ill be glad to take a picture of my roots when im done harvesting one plant. just to show you the difference between hydroton and abnormally wide lava rocks that give the plant nothing to cling to as well as roots that look like string beans.

how would it be easier to clean than hydroton? all you do is put them in a strainer and run water over them done, thats in my case. if you have them in net pots wow its even easier, they pretty much are like strainers. same thing with both rocks only hydroton gives the plants more anchoring ability and the chance to develop better roots with no stress at all, its obvious his roots are not nearly as good as they should be and it shows with the growth of his plants. although he is managing it well, its still holding him back which is the sad part, if he just used hydroton alone he would probably see better results, if he got rid of that dwc in such a small space he would be amazed at how his plants would change health wise and growth wise.

the fact that i never have to disturb my plants roots let alone lift them to check them or move them anywhere period says enough for me and should for many people. i dont know why anyone would want to force themselves to use something thats harder to maintain when there are so many other different types that leave you with no work at all when it comes to dealing with the res other than adding water and nutrients to it.

by all means im not telling him to not use hydro, im using hydro. no one is telling him not to use it, its just that bucket along with those rocks is holding him back, if you cant see that and arent willing to push him to do better things than im glad your happy with your results and never aiming for something better.

im going to push him for a better setup because unlike you i realize the potential of his ability and the need to try new things and understand that they can and will work better, those buckets you are using are ridiculous, the GH drip would work for you so much better, i have no clue why your not using it, they arent even expensive either.. they are half the size of your DIY buckets also, which would give you more room to flower.

another thing i notice is how poor your trich ratio is, instead of being close together which is apparent in any plant with good rooting yours are very minimal, far and spread out from eachother which i know effects the potency and potential of a could be killer plant.

again im not saying it cant be done, clearly both of you are doing it but clearly both of your plants could yield so much better and are suffering from it, along with just grow better. if you want to be stuck in the dark age not realizing the problems that you are causing thats fine by me, dont grow better looking plants.

not once have my plants ever looked so measly during veg not using that dwc, hanging on by a thread of roots, been there done that, im speaking from experience not just because i prefer something more.

seriously though i think everyone on this thread can agree those lava rocks are just horrible for starting plants in or growing in general, just horrible, i have never seen any person using those rocks with good results.

i mean i could throw marbles in there just because it looks cool, doesnt mean i should. id love to hear how both of you even came about using lava rocks thinking they would work better than hydroton clay pebbles? sadly cannabis is in no way related to bonsai trees, nor do they exist in mountainous regions and would ever survive on a hillside of a rocky cliff. so no lava rocks just dont work as well as they should because this plant doesnt grow in conditions that way in nature why would it grow any better in your home just because you assume its a good idea, im sorry again to be so rude but i like to help people to the fullest extent and i in no way encourage anyone to use exactly what im using but i do encourage people to find better methods of growing which is the exact purpose of this forum.
 

Kant C Shyt

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Thats what she said lol. Sorry I read the title and couldn't help myself. Hope your grow is going well. Take care 1
 

ProfGerbik

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thank you 303 hydro, i wish i wouldve saw that sooner wouldve saved me a hour of trying to defend and prove a logical point that actually has a background of science behind it.
 

hazydreams

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yes keyword so many others, not that dwc setup, clearly your ops dont even use that type so to sit and say it works when you havent used it or arent currently doesnt say much other than im right. there is something wrong with plants looking the way yours and his does in early stages of growth.. that causes stress, the more stress, the less growth, the less growth, the less roots, the less roots, poor buds and not so worth it plants.

not to be an asshole but i looked at your pictures and it appears you need to stop using lava rocks also, i dont know who started that but both of you guys plants look the same with poorly developed roots.

ill be glad to take a picture of my roots when im done harvesting one plant. just to show you the difference between hydroton and abnormally wide lava rocks that give the plant nothing to cling to as well as roots that look like string beans.

how would it be easier to clean than hydroton? all you do is put them in a strainer and run water over them done, thats in my case. if you have them in net pots wow its even easier, they pretty much are like strainers. same thing with both rocks only hydroton gives the plants more anchoring ability and the chance to develop better roots with no stress at all, its obvious his roots are not nearly as good as they should be and it shows with the growth of his plants. although he is managing it well, its still holding him back which is the sad part, if he just used hydroton alone he would probably see better results, if he got rid of that dwc in such a small space he would be amazed at how his plants would change health wise and growth wise.

the fact that i never have to disturb my plants roots let alone lift them to check them or move them anywhere period says enough for me and should for many people. i dont know why anyone would want to force themselves to use something thats harder to maintain when there are so many other different types that leave you with no work at all when it comes to dealing with the res other than adding water and nutrients to it.

by all means im not telling him to not use hydro, im using hydro. no one is telling him not to use it, its just that bucket along with those rocks is holding him back, if you cant see that and arent willing to push him to do better things than im glad your happy with your results and never aiming for something better.

im going to push him for a better setup because unlike you i realize the potential of his ability and the need to try new things and understand that they can and will work better, those buckets you are using are ridiculous, the GH drip would work for you so much better, i have no clue why your not using it, they arent even expensive either.. they are half the size of your DIY buckets also, which would give you more room to flower.

another thing i notice is how poor your trich ratio is, instead of being close together which is apparent in any plant with good rooting yours are very minimal, far and spread out from eachother which i know effects the potency and potential of a could be killer plant.

again im not saying it cant be done, clearly both of you are doing it but clearly both of your plants could yield so much better and are suffering from it, along with just grow better. if you want to be stuck in the dark age not realizing the problems that you are causing thats fine by me, dont grow better looking plants.

not once have my plants ever looked so measly during veg not using that dwc, hanging on by a thread of roots, been there done that, im speaking from experience not just because i prefer something more.

seriously though i think everyone on this thread can agree those lava rocks are just horrible for starting plants in or growing in general, just horrible, i have never seen any person using those rocks with good results.

i mean i could throw marbles in there just because it looks cool, doesnt mean i should. id love to hear how both of you even came about using lava rocks thinking they would work better than hydroton clay pebbles? sadly cannabis is in no way related to bonsai trees, nor do they exist in mountainous regions and would ever survive on a hillside of a rocky cliff. so no lava rocks just dont work as well as they should because this plant doesnt grow in conditions that way in nature why would it grow any better in your home just because you assume its a good idea, im sorry again to be so rude but i like to help people to the fullest extent and i in no way encourage anyone to use exactly what im using but i do encourage people to find better methods of growing which is the exact purpose of this forum.


If you have to start a sentence with "not to be an asshole but.....", chances are you are being an asshat. lets start with that. i don't know who shit in your cornflakes this morning but it wasn't me. so as nicely as i am able to be, lets discuss.


This notion that any medium is better then the next in DWC is a joke. its a rooting medium, inert, used to hold the plant into the net pot. The only way hes hurting himself is that there might be a light leak because of his sizing. other wise there is no advantage from one to the next. i use lava rock because it cost cents on a dollar to hydroton. and yes, its easier to clean. ill explain in depth here..

when you reuse hydroton over and over again you get fine root build up in it. thats DEAD VEGETATIVE MATTER! even if you boil it it doesnt go away and WILL lead to a case of rot or an algae bloom. this isnt really a problem for a small grow op, as you can just buy a bag and throw the old stuff away. but with bigger ops hydroton gets costly.

Ive been using lava rock for 10 years homie. underdeveloped roots? are you serious.....

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does this look under developed?

now that we have that out of the way.

not to be an asshole but,
these are the facts on my system, which by your trash talk (wheres your albums homie?) is painful obvious that you didn't look at closely. Its a custom RDWC built into a two square foot space. I love your armchair quarterback suggestion that i would somehow benefit from buying and using some type of GH ready built system. please dude. ive probably tried different things and failed more times then you have succeeded. Don't second guess my ability to build a superior system from readily available parts.

You'll just have to follow my grow to the end to see the real results of my little box. i had a bad MH ballast working against me in the last grow, even so i don't consider 80 grams from two square feet a failure in any way. if my larger op was pulling that it would be like 4 pounds from a 1000watt HPS.

"nor do they exist in mountainous regions" afghani ring a bell?

serious, i could spend hours tearing up your post.

i don't even know why I'm even arguing with a member with 60 posts.

end not to sound like an asshole/


Stigh keep it green man. with a little work this can totally be viable. check out stedenkos cab. hes killing it.
 

BigSteve

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Hey buddy. I had a few things I wanted to bring up.

I seen you bring up that it seems you are moving to much water with your air pump. This isn't possible. The more it moves the better. I grew for a year or so by putting pumps in 55gallon hdpe barrels with a bush sprayer and also air stones. Trust me you can't put enough air in the water. If your stones are dirty or it isn't putting enough bubbles for another reason please give it more air.

Of course get your temperatures down in your reservoir. You want that water nice and cool.

Where did you get your dirt that is probably where the bugs are coming from. Never use crappy dirt or dirt that sat outside.

The big rocks can make a problem if the roots try to turn in to a stem from being dry, they will rot when they get wet. Happened to me when my water was low for a while and I filled it up. Killed the plant because the rot went inside the plant somehow. I never really peeked at the roots if I had noticed sooner i would of saved her. It might be difficult to re create but I wouldn't use huge rocks myself.

You need to keep that PH under control every day.

I can often see the over water curl, which should never be seen on hydro plants. It's from lack of oxygen. It gets oxygen from roots. High temperatures remove oxygen from water. PH for some reason has something to do with the curl. I see it worse on people that don't control their PH.

I hope you keep at it. It's easy to get discouraged when you get constant problems. Once you get a good thing going you will have good times.

Where in the world do you live? Where I'm at it's nice and cold and the plants LOVE IT. Colder=tastier nuggets. I like winter for hydro. Put it in a cold garage or open a window in grow room and BAM, your buds be tastier. And if you live in Washington, USA then we can have good times. . .
 

Hammerhead

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I used Muriatic Acid to clean the hydroton and all of my grow equipment. They will come out clean as a baby's bottom.

I will agree the medium size means nothing in DWC. You could use a net pot lid to keep the light out.
 

stihgnobevoli

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Hi everyone thanks for stopping by and offering your opinions i value every one.

@303
I didnt know my roots were supposed to be growing through the rocks/hydroton/rockwool or whatever. i thought the rocks were just to support the seedling upright till the roots grow through the nets. i assumed the roots weaving through the netpot were the stabilization.

i tried a layer of chopped up rockwool in one of the earlier plants but that was just because i started it in soil and i didnt want the dirt in the res. ive actually been trying to move away from anything in the netpot but the plant maybe ill root my clones in bigger pieces of rockwool just enough to fit in the cup snug. ive found i had to keep lowering the water levels cuz the rockwool stays too wet and the roots take longer to get down to the water.

i dont know about the hygrozyme, ive been trying to not add anything to the res but water+nutes. i added bleach once 10 drops per gallon and my roots got all brown and my plants threw a lot of def. that may not have been the direct cause but it may have helped. i have also been turning my pump off with the lights. i noticed no difference in growth of the roots so i have turned the pumps back on at night 24/7. my original idea was to get more roots to grow since the amount of bubbles was keeping them afloat hence the crazy looking rope roots that all curve to the side after leaving the netpot.

i dont know if mychorrizae will help my situation im running chemical nutrients. lucas formula.

@profGerbik
i only have 18 inches from floor to ceiling in my cab, plants cant be more than 12 inches tall from pot to tip. i dont really have any much other choices for a res other than this shallow tub. i could probably do 5 quart buckets they are about the same height as the tub and will allow me to do the plants individually. something to think about for my next grow or my next cabinet im designing.

i was going for simplicity with this setup, no drippers no water pumps nothing extra, just plants, tub, airstones, and airpump. i would have done hempy cept i would need to design a shallow tub that can handle it.

@big steve
yeah i was concerned cuz the roots were always being floated and tossed about that they never build up to a big mass like everyone else's roots in dwc so i started turning off the pumps ate night so the roots can do more growing.
Yeah my biggest issue right now is the temps it seems. those whatever they are in my res, i dont even think theyre fungus gnat larvae, ive never seen any hatch or any gnats. whatever they are are always in the res but dont seem to be doing anything harmful. the biggest correlation i've seen between my plants and problems are the temps.
i dont wanna say where i am but lets just say the weather is unpredictable at best. one day its hot next day its freezing then hot for a week and rain for a month etc...
but it had been getting warm lately and it was pretty hot the day i noticed all my roots were brown and the plants were throwing def's.

the dirt i think is a combination of leftovers from mircle gro time release, miracle gro organic, and some seedling starter mix which is essentially just fine coco and some peat. i added perlite and lime and all that good shit cept nutes. been using and reusing it over a year and aside from the nematodes that kept eating my seeds i had no issues.






im gonna change the res out again and remix my nutes i added some extra micros for juanita, but she's better now and i dont want her to start stretching again.
 

stihgnobevoli

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beginning of week 13 from seed, week 6 flower i think.

nothin to report. misha is still packin on weight the buds are clustering up into little rock hard nuggets and frosting up. its becoming sticky rather than just oily like it was before. smells like pine lemon rotting meat and some sort of fuel like kerosine. juanita is showing purple meristems on most of the leaves. i dont know what thats about, maybe too much phos or something. i cant figure it out, not gonna either i assume its still recovering from the root damage. everything else is ok. got nutes, got air, got light, got water. some of the leaves are dying from the middle of the leaf too. i dont know what thats about im guessing moisture is building up on the leaves that are leaning against the wall and when the lights come on theres some sort of hot spot created. thats the only thing i can figure, the leaves showing this are the ones closest to the walls or directly touching the walls.

the seedling that i think is going to be a girl got topped the other day, FIMmed from the looks of it, hopefully it turn out with multiple tops unlike all the other FIM attempts i made which were toppings.

the last seedling the sasha i started (i think i said it was misha last update) isnt doing anything its too moist, i need to find another method of rooting seeds and clones that doesnt stay so moist. maybe coco next time. maybe i can just put the seed on top of the lava rock next time? lol
im going to let the res get pretty low and hopefully encourage the roots to come through the rockwool and dangle so that i can raise the res back up without worrying about rotting out all the roots again from a saturated rockwool.

roots are looking better, and new one are reaching down from the netpots to the water on misha and juanita. the seedlings are still trying. i took some lower branches of misha last time and put em in my version of a quick/easy cloner. i took 2 beer cups i poked holes in the bottom of one and filled it with perlite, then i poured water in it to fill it and then i put a bottle cap in the second cup and put the first cup in it, then i set it on my windersill. 1 week later the perlite isnt dry on top its not soaked either and im waiting to see some signs of new growth to let me know i have roots.

clones in my "new" ghetto cloner.

seedlings the sasha that i should just kill since its been 3-4 weeks from seed, and the other one im gonna call B for now that i fimmed 4 weeks from seed also.



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juanita. the first picture shows a bud that refused to die. the brown part of the stem was touching the bulb for like a day or 2 and had all pretty much died. i decided to let it go anyway rather than chop it off and what do you know the motherfucker continues to live.
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Misha cola shots. look at that frost. looks good enough to eat. pistils starting to die off looks like its on schedule to be done in 3 weeks. havent seen any seeds either so i guess those male flowers that popped earlier were sterile. we'll find out at the harvest if theres any seeds.
 
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stihgnobevoli

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well my two seedlings are still alive, and one is even showing flowers... but they dont grow, and the roots wont reach the water. what the fuck am i doing wrong? i got the pump going 24/7 the netpots are an inch from the water. the roots start growing then they just die or something and never actually come out of the netpots and into the water. i look in there from the bottom and see new fuzzy roots are coming out of the rockwool but they just seem to wither and die after that.
 

hazydreams

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stihg-

Pictures of whats going on are worth a 1000 words.

Im sending some constructive criticism your way. I'm not bagging on you man! just want to see you get better.

Ive asked a couple times. what are your res temps looking like. and are you 100 percent sure you have no light leaks in your reservoir?


growing hydroponically requires you to look at your water as your soil. Growing in soil is relatively easy because it can be bought pre-proportioned for you. you put it in the pot and add water maybe some food depending on your amendments. Hydro requires you to proportion everything yourself. this includes temperature and light levels.

you have to ensure good root temps, and a light proof vessel to hold your water in. If your lava rocks are letting light in, well lets just say roots are not a fan of light. putting a piece of Mylar or cardboard over the net pot solves that easy... if your temps are too high that can your roots to damp off as well. a frozen water bottle to bring down the temps would go far. I think over all you have to tighten up the spec on your build a little.

another thought is

I think there might be a problem with your water level. when i transplant into the water. i have the tips of the clones roots in the water. but not the cloning medium. you don't want the rockwool or peat pellets in the water because they become water logged and then cause the stems to rot.

hope my high ramblings help you out man.
 
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