First organic grow
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Well.. Still a long way from done! I need to run some new electrical back there, and I need to square away the exhaust. Looks like we'll be taking a sledgehammer (or something equally COOL and brute force) to the bricks & mortar, so's we can access the chimney..
I'm looking forward to launching any stink out of my house sixty feet in the air.
However, I'm not handy enough to do that on my own, so I'm a bit at the mercy of my buddy's schedule.
In the meantime, the clones are rootin', doing their thing...
All good things in all good time!
Thanks tr1ck!
I'm looking forward to launching any stink out of my house sixty feet in the air.
However, I'm not handy enough to do that on my own, so I'm a bit at the mercy of my buddy's schedule.
In the meantime, the clones are rootin', doing their thing...
All good things in all good time!
Thanks tr1ck!
With such a small tent, and such a large carbon filter you can just exhaust it into your room. My tent is 100% smell free and I have a smaller filter than you, and the plants absolutely REAK when the tent is open The only time my room smells is when I have the tent open and I am working with the plants, but once I seal the tent, the exhaust comes clean. Then I just have to wait for my tent to cycle all the air in my whole bedroom which usually takes a few hours and its squeeky clean again!
P.S. I am extremely picky about smell, I could tell immediately when I have the tiniest pinhole leak in my hood and it was exhausting a bit of unfiltered air.
The only time my room smells is when I have the tent open and I am working with the plants, but once I seal the tent, the exhaust comes clean. Then I just have to wait for my tent to cycle all the air in my whole bedroom which usually takes a few hours and its squeeky clean again!P.S. I am extremely picky about smell, I could tell immediately when I have the tiniest pinhole leak in my hood and it was exhausting a bit of unfiltered air.
Hm. Worth knowing! But I'd still have a heat issue, I suppose. My tent sits in a fairly small room (no bigger than 10'x10'), so if I just blasted it out of the tent, .. It's gonna come right back in..
Maybe I can rig up something to vent it out of that entire room (discretely) without having to get up into the chimney.
tr1ck, do you open the square flaps on the bottom for intake? What do you do in that regard? (Is your tent in a place where you have to worry about light contamination getting into your tent?)
Maybe I can rig up something to vent it out of that entire room (discretely) without having to get up into the chimney.
tr1ck, do you open the square flaps on the bottom for intake? What do you do in that regard? (Is your tent in a place where you have to worry about light contamination getting into your tent?)
I second what tr1ck said. filter, baby!
I have a 4inch duct going out each of the bottom intake's I have it make a couple of sharp turns so no light can get in or out. One intake is about 3 ft to the left of the tent, and one intake is about 2-3 ft from the right of the tent. I do not ever open the flaps, I don't blow out enough exhaust that I'm confident I could keep negative pressure with the vents open (Plus I don't seem to need them.)
Right now since its winter, All I did was seal off the heater duct in the room my tent is in. Now my tent acts as the room's heater.
If you need to vent the room, what is above your room? Could you leave the door to that room open? It will not ever smell except right after messing with the plants.
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filter, fan, light, outta tent. if you have the fan last, you'll suck any dirty air through leaks in the hood or any connections. with the fan right on the filter, any air leaks will push out clean scrubbed air. positive pressure in the ventilation system.
I purchased an "Airtight" hood, and it definitely had leaks. If you have a sealed hood just get some 3M Scotch Tape, and tape every seam on the hood. I went over my entire exhaust system multiple times looking for leaks. Almost every leak I found was on the hood somewhere and instantly fixed with scotch tape
The largest leak was where the electrical plug went into the hood.
Well, that's funny. The room above the tent room is the main-floor living room.
Entertaining, .. But the room OUTSIDE the tent room (literally 2 feet away) is the basement hangin' area (where me and the guys watch fights, where I will retreat from The Bachelor when my GF insists..)I was downstairs eyeing up the situation, if I were to vent into the main area of the basement.. I have a feeling it'll be not much more work for my buddy to just tap into the chimney.. We'll see. Not my donkeywork, so to speak.
tr1ck, you da MAN. Was just checking in on your deal.. Looking good man. I love that you've got a head start on me, with the same tent. Makes it a good reference point for me to ask questions.
Good call. First I need to go educate myself on how to run a new electrical circuit, and do that.
Fan will be here by day's end, so I'm expecting to have time this weekend to set it up and give it a whirl, exhausting right back into the room. Or perhaps outside the room (but not quite up the chimney YET).
..State law requires that the getup be behind lock-and-key, .. Which is one law I'm quite content to comply with.
Update
New (#3) fan arrived today. Got the fan hooked up, from the tent.. So now the question is: To exhaust into the next room (which will, on some level, mean I'm re-circulating that hot air back into the tent), OR exhaust out the chimney?
So far, the HPS & the fan (currently blowing back into the SAME room as the tent) has been on for about 2.5 hours, and we're currently at about 83 degrees.
So I suppose the question is this: Can I lower it about 7-8 degrees by blowing it out into the next room (which will mean some level of re-circ)..? Or do I need to do some brick smashin'?
Going to leave it as is (venting into the SAME room as the tent) and keep an eye on the temp over the next several hours.. I'm hoping it's topped out at 83, but I've not been the luckiest man on this trip so far..
New (#3) fan arrived today. Got the fan hooked up, from the tent.. So now the question is: To exhaust into the next room (which will, on some level, mean I'm re-circulating that hot air back into the tent), OR exhaust out the chimney?
So far, the HPS & the fan (currently blowing back into the SAME room as the tent) has been on for about 2.5 hours, and we're currently at about 83 degrees.
So I suppose the question is this: Can I lower it about 7-8 degrees by blowing it out into the next room (which will mean some level of re-circ)..? Or do I need to do some brick smashin'?
Going to leave it as is (venting into the SAME room as the tent) and keep an eye on the temp over the next several hours.. I'm hoping it's topped out at 83, but I've not been the luckiest man on this trip so far..
ALSO. tr1ck, your intake/light-keeper-outer setup is slick. However, I do feel like if I have to go back to the store and purchase more shit for this ventilation project, I might just puke.
Oh, wait. I have to go return about $30 in unused ventilation crap.
If only there were some catchy phrase I could say, to describe that I'm not in fact LOSING on this ventilation deal
Oh, wait. I have to go return about $30 in unused ventilation crap.
If only there were some catchy phrase I could say, to describe that I'm not in fact LOSING on this ventilation deal
Wohoo! That has to be a first. I always have to go back to the store to finish my grow projects, but its NEVER to return stuff! lol.
About your venting situation. I guess the first question would be how large is the other room? Also what is the temperature situation in this room. Does it normally run a little bit cool? A little bit warm?
With my room all I had to do was block the heater vent that normally came into the room. My heater used to turn on in cycles of about 10 minutes before it warmed the whole place enough to trip the thermostat off. Now that I have the master bedroom blocked off, the heater only goes on for 5-7 minutes at a time. My HPS now acts as the heater for my bedroom and its staying at almost the exact same temp as the rest of my place.
If you can recycle the heated exhaust into your house you will save on your heating bill in the winter, the opposite will happen come summer though. Good thing where I live winter is much longer than summer! (First time iv ever said that was a good thing)
About your venting situation. I guess the first question would be how large is the other room? Also what is the temperature situation in this room. Does it normally run a little bit cool? A little bit warm?
With my room all I had to do was block the heater vent that normally came into the room. My heater used to turn on in cycles of about 10 minutes before it warmed the whole place enough to trip the thermostat off. Now that I have the master bedroom blocked off, the heater only goes on for 5-7 minutes at a time. My HPS now acts as the heater for my bedroom and its staying at almost the exact same temp as the rest of my place.
If you can recycle the heated exhaust into your house you will save on your heating bill in the winter, the opposite will happen come summer though. Good thing where I live winter is much longer than summer! (First time iv ever said that was a good thing)
Well, I was considering that, .. The basement is pretty carved up. It's MOSTLY an open space (finished), but kind of in the middle of it (butted up to the chimney, which may come in handy) is a furnace/hot water tank room that's been built out. Because that room houses the furnace, there are a few grate-style vents (10" x 12" if I had to guess) on the walls, to let air flow out of that room..
Those vents (and under the door) are how air would get into that room, .. So if I end up venting out of the furnace room, I may elect to kind of close off one of those wall vents - there's one about 5 feet from where I'm thinking of exhausting the tent.. So, I don't want to IMMEDIATELY recirculate it.
Update:
I just tuned up the passive vents on the tent a-la tr1ck_ styl-ee, with some flexible 4" ducting in/out of the hut, through the 5" vent socks, with a bit of an upside down U-shape, to keep light out. Kinda makes my hut look like a robot halloween costume - pretty sweet.
I also positioned a fan blowing straight up at the reflector, to move some of that air around inside the tent (it's interesting - the temperature about 12" below the lights is 83-ish, .. The temperature above the reflector is a cool 65. That feels encouraging). I'm going to leave'er sealed up for a few hours and see if THAT doesn't bring us down a degree or three. If I can whittle the temp down that way, I'll feel better about venting into the basement itself.
That is the exact problem I was having when my fan quit working. Some of the plants directly under the hottest part of the bulb started to curl from the heat. Parts of my tent were about 65 (around the pots, and above the lights) but I was hitting 82-84 right under the bulb. With the fan blowing the heat is MUCH more evenly distributed
What type of fan do you have? I have gone through 2 clip on fans from amazon. I am about about to try a new clip-on from Bed Bath n Beyond soon. I like the ease of clipping them to the bar and being so small, but they just seem to all suck! First they don't blow much, and then they seem to push less and less air each day until they die after a couple weeks.
What type of fan do you have? I have gone through 2 clip on fans from amazon. I am about about to try a new clip-on from Bed Bath n Beyond soon. I like the ease of clipping them to the bar and being so small, but they just seem to all suck! First they don't blow much, and then they seem to push less and less air each day until they die after a couple weeks.
That's about 18" below the light, after one hour, with the exhaust going out of the hut, and then straight back into the 10' x 10' room the hut sits in, .. So it's essentially being recirculated.
I'm hopeful that once I get the last few odds and ends (no such thing as "last few?) to vent it out into the next room (which is still connected..), the heat will be manageable for sure.
tr1ck_, I'm using some old desk fan that I used to have in the office. I'll post a picture of it soon - nothing too fancy, probably 8" - 10" ..
A buddy of mine who runs a 2k setup uses the 16" Air King wall-mount fans. He's had them for a few years, anyway, .. They seem to be workhorses.
16" is too big for you and me, obviously, but I found this on Amazon today:
http://www.amazon.com/Air-King-9012...TG98/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1300500891&sr=8-3
Even that may be pushin' it in terms of size (may take up valuable real estate in there), but I'm sure you could rig something and make it work. I may try that, when my fan dies. If I can spend $60 once, rather than $20 three times in short order, .. I'd rather just do that.
For now, my fan is set right on the bottom of the tent. At most, I'll be flowering three plants this run. (HOpefully some Headband in addition to the WWxBB and Warrior I have so far) .. That will leave space on the floor for the fan..
tr1ck, here's the fan:
Tempy update: After about one hour, still venting into the same room, this time about 12" under the light:
I'm hopeful. Going to leave it overnight, see where we stand in the AM.
Tempy update: After about one hour, still venting into the same room, this time about 12" under the light:
I'm hopeful. Going to leave it overnight, see where we stand in the AM.
Another thing to note, is that my temps were higher when my tent was empty, once I got some plants and soil in there the temp dropped a degree or two and as the plants have gotten larger I believe its dropped about another degree.
You have low humidity like me, don't even bother trying to raise that by the way I tried pans with water, and eventually even put a humidifier in the tent. Even on high it would only raise the humidity about 4-5%. The problem is the tent was just being exhausted too fast it was constantly sucking all of the moisture right out.... opps. Once the plants get larger they will create their own humidity though I do believe my veg speed suffered slightly from the low humidity though.
You have low humidity like me, don't even bother trying to raise that by the way
I tried pans with water, and eventually even put a humidifier in the tent. Even on high it would only raise the humidity about 4-5%. The problem is the tent was just being exhausted too fast it was constantly sucking all of the moisture right out.... opps. Once the plants get larger they will create their own humidity though I do believe my veg speed suffered slightly from the low humidity though.
