realistic ideas to end war on drugs

[SacredTHCRitual]

we always hear legalization will be the best thing to do but what are some realistic ideas of implementation?

with all this infighting going on right now even with cannabis, its not such an easy debate..making something illegal creates a black market -it creates black market jobs and revenue, it also creates a pyramid effect where the police can justify more spending more police...so there is almost a win win for the police and black market profiteers for drugs to be illegal..simply because if they were legal neither would have jobs or at least not the jobs they are doing now.

so how can we create incentives for the actual communities to be the main benefit reapers?

I think if drugs were legal and people were properly educated, drug use would at large lose its popular "cool danger" appeal and status and taboo...people would still do drugs but it wouldn't be glamorized as much imho..i think it would fall out of style


its easy to see why drugs are illegal, just ask who is benefiting from illegal drugs?...i dont think my community is..is yours?

 

[hunt4genetics]

For the legalization of cannabis,
realistically, I feel it will happen after numerous designer drugs hit the market.
When people are snorting and smoking the craziest substances on the planet, weed won't luck that bad.

people will look back at weed prohibition, the same way we look back at parents that believed that rock'n'roll was the devil's music.

 

[Madrus Rose]

The recently deceased Stanley Owsley in a car crash in Australia...the famous pioneer lsd prankster in the neo revolution~era of the US , has some very lucid thoughts on this subject of how to percieve & deal with the Prohibition & Drugs...
and Drug War:

" The True Reason for Drug Prohibition"
by Stanley Bear Owsley

http://www.thebear.org/essays.html#anchor433446

* essentially , with jobless rates so high in the US , housing markets & building at all time lows, rising oil/energy , commodities & wholesale costs, plus the challenge to America's position as the leading producer in the world (China just surpassed the US as largest producer of goods ) ...the subject of drugs is far down on the list of issues people want to think about . Plus there's always a flight to conservitive stances during times like these ...and under this umbrella of conservatism the Fed's get to play at whatever games they choose which has all to do with chasing the money .

 

[cocktail frank]

Big Business makes far too much $$ on the war on drugs.
all of it at the tax payer's expense.

 

[SacredTHCRitual]

Big Business makes far too much $$ on the war on drugs.
all of it at the tax payer's expense.

exactly


look at the communities and people, we are the product of the program. are we running at 100% capability???

what incentives will it take to realize smart business is better business???

 

[Stoner4Life]

time & perseverance, work to vote in
cannabis compassionate officials.......

 

[longearedfriend]

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[Grimr3efer]

End Corporations and you will have no more WAR.

 

[Stoner4Life]

become an elected official yourself, if you have a clean record and more than a handful of brain cells (Sarah Palin became a GOVERNOR for fucks sake) you can enter local elections and go from there.

 

[crazybear]

Get the message out there how beneficial cannabis is with out looking like a bunch of hippie stoners! But then again that would leave a long hair like out of it!

 

[Madrus Rose]

End Corporations and you will have no more WAR.

There's always "celebrity" that has reach in this society & activism ....for sitting around waiting for law makers & politicians to do anything is more often a waste of time .

On the lighter side, but not forgetting he has great reach is Bill Maher on HBO ...there's alot of power in his political Satire & legalization of MJ is one he's championed all along the way like this one exchange back in 2009 with Rep Ron Paul :

Bill Maher's Recovery Plan: Legalize Pot and Execute 'Two Random Rich, Greedy Pigs' at the Super Bowl
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gr...egalize-pot-execute-two-random-rich-greedy-pi

On the 2009 debut of his HBO show Real Time on Friday night, Bill Maher proposed his new solution for the economic crisis: legalize marijuana. In an interview with Rep. Ron Paul, he lectured: "When FDR came into office in '33, one of the first things he did was repeal Prohibition. He said we can’t afford this any more." ​

Paul was puzzled, so Maher continued: "When he was making radical changes, he said ‘look, we’re serious now. We’re gonna get serious, and people like liquor." Well, in this country, people love pot...[applause]...and if we ended that Prohibition, it’d be a giant boon of money." ​

He had an utterly straight face, no smirk. Paul denounced all the drug laws to such effect that Maher went back to joking. "Amen, stoner," he said to Paul.​

Maher ended his show with another stirring solution to the financial crisis: executing two random rich guys to set an example: "If we killed two random, rich greedy pigs; blew them up at halftime at next year’s Super Bowl. Or left them hanging on the big board at the New York Stock Exchange, you know, as a warning, with their balls in their mouths, I think it would really make everyone else sit up and take notice." ​

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[Madrus Rose]

Get the message out there how beneficial cannabis is with out looking like a bunch of hippie stoners! But then again that would leave a long hair like out of it!

Cameron Diaz was admitting she prolly bought weed from Snoop Dogg back in high school on George Lopez show ...
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/entertain...Dogg-Was-My-High-School-Hookup-114302234.html


The “Green Hornet” star said on “Lopez Tonight” Wednesday not only did both attend the same rough and tumble high school in Long Beach, Calif., but they had a working relationship of sorts.
"He was very tall and skinny, wore lots of ponytails in his head," Diaz said of the future “Gin and Juice” rapper, who was a year older than her (via NY Daily News).

"And I'm pretty sure I bought weed from him,” Diaz said. “Yeah. I had to have."

she's a nice rep for med MJ and a sweetie, not just a long haired hippie stoner...also
half cuban !

 

[longearedfriend]

^^
she's definitively a nice rep for mj
(dunno if she only says mmj, to me sounds like plain old mj)

she seems smart, well-spoken, and doesn't look thrashy

I applaud her for speaking her mind, admitting she smokes and not feel bad about it

 

[hunt4genetics]

become an elected official yourself, if you have a clean record and more than a handful of brain cells (Sarah Palin became a GOVERNOR for fucks sake) you can enter local elections and go from there.

I agree with your suggestion Stoner4Life but,

The powers that be have a way of marginalizing politicians that don't do the bidding of Big Business. i.e.--------> Ron Paul


peace

 

[supermanlives]

make everything legal. its not like the wod is actually effective at stopping drug use.

 

[longearedfriend]

I see you changed your post from

make everything legal

to

make everything legal. its not like the wod is actually effective at stopping drug use.

I thought it was okay like it was
you have a typo by the way

 

[SacredTHCRitual]

I see you changed your post from

make everything legal

to

make everything legal. its not like the wod is actually effective at stopping drug use.

I thought it was okay like it was
you have a typo by the way

edit

lol mean

 

[manfood420]

Okay, I've got one. Why not hold Hempfest in DC instead of Seattle one year?

 

[Madrus Rose]

^^
she's definitively a nice rep for mj
(dunno if she only says mmj, to me sounds like plain old mj)

she seems smart, well-spoken, and doesn't look thrashy

I applaud her for speaking her mind, admitting she smokes and not feel bad about it

Cameron Diaz , just an excellent lady & prolly still uses MJ recreationally... hard to think shes almost 40 now and she did a great segment with Cameron Sinclair co-founder and 'chief eternal optimist' (CEO) for Architecture for Humanity .... on the Sundance Channel's "Iconoclasts" series a while back .
http://www.sundancechannel.com/icon...?view=gallery#/?album_id=210568333&photo_id=1

Personally think that Bill Maher's got it best in the post that like alcohol & the repealing of prohibition by Rosevelt ...just because Americans like to drink ...and now Americans love Pot . There's no need to put a label of "medical" or not to it at all . If people want to injest an herb thru any means that's relatively harmless , & recreational , they should have the right to do so without having their doors broken down.
Simple as that...

I do remember AIDS & the great need for stimulating appetite of later stage victims back when the movement was younger ...that was all i needed to feel about the medical aspect for in San Francisco the AIDS thing was full blown & very sad amongs gays . No-one has to prove though that Pot doesn't help in giving almost anyone the munchies & usually lightens the heart !!

(and doesn't kill brain cells by the millions per joint , like one oz of Alcohol does )

Let's also remember how AIDS surfaced rapidly as an epidemic and was first viewed as a "Homosexual Disease" and stigmatized when Jerry Falwell labeled it as the Wrath of God visited on homosexuals & Ronald Reagan sat there & did nothing again & again at the beginning
http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-06-...n-san-francisco-aids-research-education-cases


" As America remembers the life of Ronald Reagan, it must never forget his shameful abdication of leadership in the fight against AIDS. History may ultimately judge his presidency by the thousands who have and will die of AIDS.

Following discovery of the first cases in 1981, it soon became clear a national health crisis was developing. But President Reagan's response was "halting and ineffective," according to his biographer Lou Cannon. Those infected initially with this mysterious disease -- all gay men -- found themselves targeted with an unprecedented level of mean-spirited hostility.

significant source of Reagan's support came from the newly identified religious right and the Moral Majority, a political-action group founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell. AIDS became the tool, and gay men the target, for the politics of fear, hate and discrimination. Falwell said "AIDS is the wrath of God upon homosexuals." Reagan's communications director Pat Buchanan argued that AIDS is "nature's revenge on gay men."


But back to ending Prohibition ....it pretty much took out the BlackMarket , rampant corruption of elected officials & decreased violence in every following decade since the repeal . Now the drug laws have fueled another rise of violence , overloaded prisons , stigmatization of peoples lives & huge Black Markets .

The very revenues taken in by the taxation of Alcohol & Tobacco after ending prohibition now helps to fund health awareness & health education programs all across the US in every state . Use of Pot among teens has increased while alcohol consumption has decreased ....in part perhaps of stricter DUI laws but also in part because young peeps are making perhaps better health choices here too & finally are realizing the danger's of overuse/abuse of alcohol which cost the state of Virginia alone $1Bil a yr ...the same in every other state too.

For me the medical aspect of legalization is Ok , but not as important as just ending Prohibition & the realistic approach of decriminalizing both Hemp & Pot , taking them off the schedule 1 class of controlled substances and from there just simply treat it like Alcohol thru laws governing regulation & taxation .

And thats the one thing the Feds are happiest at & do best --->regulate & tax !

 

[hunt4genetics]

Last night on the news there was a story about a spring breaker that died after taking a designer drug call "2cE".
Have no idea what it is. As designers out number even scripts, the spot light will slowing stop shining on weed. when weed becomes the safe alternative, the war on cannabis may be over.

But there will always be a war on drugs, what the drug is will always be changing however.