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[stussy22]

You could also have the veg room 20/4 and have the 4 hours of dark when the two flower fire on. I am worried about the spike at power on. You could also have the first flower bulb come on 10 mins before bulb number two. I just don't want to see it go from 0 - 3Kw all spiking on ignition at the same time.

I like that idea too of bring the flower lights on one at a time. I am going to be making a custom 240v light timer/switch so this is something that can defiantly be done. Thanks for the input HS.

stu

 

[Maj.Cottonmouth]

That is pretty interesting. I will have to look into that for a option for soil. So it just uses gravity to feed water? And the blumats open and close based on the humidity/moisture of the soil ?

My only concern would be if they would over water causing to much run off and having them drain on the floor. If that is a problem I guess I can always put them in a try or a liner and elevate it so that I can drain it to a pump..What experience do you have with them Major ?

stu

I used them during my last soil grow and they worked really well. They are best if you are running just water or chem ferts, they have small dripper lines on them.

 

[Electrician]

What brand T5's ? Check Out LA Lighting. They are not a hydro brand and cost you about 1/2 the price.

 

[Dankgravy]

Since that Ac is just hanging out in your garage isn't is just going to heat up the rest of the garage to a ridiculous temp?

 

[Vegan]

gotta agree with philthy on the veg t5 def show the stems to be limpier ,,MH really bulks em up..

if you are lookin to save on power go to straight co co,, you can make up for weight in more plants if ya need to ,,kinda hard to pop another plant into a dwc or a uc set up..belive me

really diggin your set up kinda close to what i do

i take em to size under cfl then veg under the bigger hps lights for bout 5 days,,

basically in the last 5 days of before harvy i flip the light sback to 18 on off 6 on and put the new ones in nest to the one goin out,,the ones in bloom dont seem tomind the metal halides at the end of thier days,,

that just me

 

[Vegan]

Since that Ac is just hanging out in your garage isn't is just going to heat up the rest of the garage to a ridiculous temp?

YES depending on ambient temps outsidethe garage

ventting it out some how would be the ideal situation

 

[stussy22]

What brand T5's ? Check Out LA Lighting. They are not a hydro brand and cost you about 1/2 the price.

I will check them out thanks for the tip electrician. Do you run then ? If so how do you like them ? What are your pros and cons?

Since that Ac is just hanging out in your garage isn't is just going to heat up the rest of the garage to a ridiculous temp?

I have done a few cycles with the AC unit. I do have a wirly bird vent that I installed on the top of the roof. I am also going to be cooling the MH with Out Side Air, being pulled by a 6" inline. As well as the (2) HPS with an 8" inline.

The lights are on in the evening. So the OSA is right now high 40s to to low 60s. Just an idea on how well this cooling the lights work. I control and regulate the temperature in my tent with the fan that cools my 1kw light. It stays 75-79 with lights on and that is with NO AC.

The AC is just mainly for when temps are a little higher in the summer months. Other than that running an inline fan to cool the lights is a win win situation.

gotta agree with philthy on the veg t5 def show the stems to be limpier ,,MH really bulks em up..

if you are lookin to save on power go to straight co co,, you can make up for weight in more plants if ya need to ,,kinda hard to pop another plant into a dwc or a uc set up..belive me

really diggin your set up kinda close to what i do

i take em to size under cfl then veg under the bigger hps lights for bout 5 days,,

basically in the last 5 days of before harvy i flip the light sback to 18 on off 6 on and put the new ones in nest to the one goin out,,the ones in bloom dont seem tomind the metal halides at the end of thier days,,

that just me

Hey vegan thanks for stopping in. I am already planning to run a 1k MH in the veg room. My only concern now that HS brought up is running (3) 1kw on a 15 amp 240v circuit. Theoretically it will pull 12.3 amps. HS was saying he just didn't want to see all 3 of those lights fire on at the same time. So since I am building my own light controller I can make it possible to fire the HPS within 10 minutes of each other.

Thanks for everyone on dropping by again.

stu

 

[Dankgravy]

I have done a few cycles with the AC unit. I do have a wirly bird vent that I installed on the top of the roof. I am also going to be cooling the MH with Out Side Air, being pulled by a 6" inline. As well as the (2) HPS with an 8" inline.

Nice. You are lucky with the temps.

How would you run that if you were in a garage where the outside temps during the summer are at minimum 90 degrees and regularly into the 100s? Would be there any way to run the AC like that or would it have to be installed in a window and maybe ducted into the room?

 

[Agent-Smith]

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[OrgAeroMan]

Wow, awesome looking set-up dude! I wish I had that kind of space!!!!

 

[stussy22]

Nice. You are lucky with the temps.

How would you run that if you were in a garage where the outside temps during the summer are at minimum 90 degrees and regularly into the 100s? Would be there any way to run the AC like that or would it have to be installed in a window and maybe ducted into the room?

Not sure. During the day I plan not running the lights for flower so there shouldn't be to much of a heat load. In that room. The flower room will be running 18-20 hours a day so that AC will be running the better part of the day.

I can't tell you exactly how it is going to react with that Hi temps. But we will see when it does warm up out here. I will figure something out.

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thanks for stopping by Agent Smith

Wow, awesome looking set-up dude! I wish I had that kind of space!!!!

Hey OrgAeroMan thanks for the good vibes. I am quite lucky. My last grows a few years back where in a closet build out. Hard work does pay off.

stu

 

[dansbuds]

Are you going to be cloning from the moms ? if you are ... then i think your missing a stage in your veg room. should be 3 stages of lights .... moms ...under T5's ... cuttings & freshly rooted clones under another set of T5's .... then the 600 to 1000 watt MH for vegging . the way you have it now .... you have to take cuttings put them in a cloner for 2 weeks then put them into small cups or pots to root in the mom's space till they can go under the Mh veg light .this will work if you leave enough room for clones in the mom space .can ya see what i'm saying ? its just alot going on in the mom space . i'd keep cutting & clones in thier own space .

mines all done in a wardrobe but you can
see where i have 2 sections the top is for cloning & seedlings & the bottom is for vegging & rooted clones before i transplant into the bigger vegging pots .my lower section has a 150 watt hps & a couple 27 watt cfl's .

 

[stussy22]

Are you going to be cloning from the moms ? if you are ... then i think your missing a stage in your veg room. should be 3 stages of lights .... moms ...under T5's ... cuttings & freshly rooted clones under another set of T5's .... then the 600 to 1000 watt MH for vegging . the way you have it now .... you have to take cuttings put them in a cloner for 2 weeks then put them into small cups or pots to root in the mom's space till they can go under the Mh veg light .this will work if you leave enough room for clones in the mom space .can ya see what i'm saying ? its just alot going on in the mom space . i'd keep cutting & clones in thier own space .

mines all done in a wardrobe but you can
see where i have 2 sections the top is for cloning & seedlings & the bottom is for vegging & rooted clones before i transplant into the bigger vegging pots .my lower section has a 150 watt hps & a couple 27 watt cfl's .

Hey dansbud thanks for stopping by. Did you read the first three pages of this thread? Specifically the first post? This is going to be my veg room I just completed the build out and moved my current grow from a tent with no AC to this room because I have better controls over the elements. Nice clone set up you have there. I am using a self made aero cloner gets the job done for me. Keep your eye out I'm going to hopefully start that build out for the flower room soon!!

stu

 

[dansbuds]

not much mention of cloning space ... thought ya overlooked it is all . not tryin to stir up things .

 

[stussy22]

no bubbles no troubles. For cloning I was going to build a large 40 site aero cloner and just set it in the room there. With everything else. I have to see what I have room for once I start piling in everything.

 

[mmmcake]

wow great set up. will be keeping an eye on this one.

 

[Electrician]

I will check them out thanks for the tip electrician. Do you run then ? If so how do you like them ? What are your pros and cons?



I have done a few cycles with the AC unit. I do have a wirly bird vent that I installed on the top of the roof. I am also going to be cooling the MH with Out Side Air, being pulled by a 6" inline. As well as the (2) HPS with an 8" inline.

The lights are on in the evening. So the OSA is right now high 40s to to low 60s. Just an idea on how well this cooling the lights work. I control and regulate the temperature in my tent with the fan that cools my 1kw light. It stays 75-79 with lights on and that is with NO AC.

The AC is just mainly for when temps are a little higher in the summer months. Other than that running an inline fan to cool the lights is a win win situation.



Hey vegan thanks for stopping in. I am already planning to run a 1k MH in the veg room. My only concern now that HS brought up is running (3) 1kw on a 15 amp 240v circuit. Theoretically it will pull 12.3 amps. HS was saying he just didn't want to see all 3 of those lights fire on at the same time. So since I am building my own light controller I can make it possible to fire the HPS within 10 minutes of each other.

Thanks for everyone on dropping by again.

stu

Yea I use them. The ballast and the hood is the same. Its all about what kelvin lamps you install. The hydro brand T5's are a complete waste of money. Go generic and save some cash same thing overall.

 

[stussy22]

Yea I use them. The ballast and the hood is the same. Its all about what kelvin lamps you install. The hydro brand T5's are a complete waste of money. Go generic and save some cash same thing overall.

Can you show me the model of a 4' (8) bulb T5 setup. It is quite confusing to me.

stu

 

[Electrician]

http://www.lalighting.com/catalogfiles/stock/stock02-eby300.pdf


This is what I use they are only 6 lamp but very cost effective compared to some.

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

What's up stussy? Build out is looking really good.

Couple of things; under a 4ft T5 I fit 12 or so 1 gallon pots but when they need a transplant to 3 gallon i can fit 8. And they fill out that space in a week or two so I have to top and train more to keep a flat canopy. I don't think it's going to do great over a 4x4. Nothing really gets light beyond the 2x4 under the light. You have to keep it close so its a sharp falloff of light.

I still need another light for my next round in beer cups. I have yet another light for clones. That only gets me 3 ft tall begging for a transplant before it'll grow more. Can't fit 8 5 gallon under it so it still has to go off to the flower room for a week or 2 of 2k MH.
So it's like a strip light for clones, a 2ft 4 light for jr's, a 4ft 8 bulb for teens and then still needs more light and more penetration.

I'm solving this mess by having a seperate 4x4 area under a 1k mh.

I do runs of 8 right now so it's 8 under every light.



I wish I would have caught you before you drywalled, lol I wish I would have added a bunch of ceiling outlets.

You mention a 1000w per 4x4, which was a great guide with a lot of hoods. But with these big hoods I keep hearing people say they think a 5x5 is perfectly reasonable for a 1k. I wish I had the extra sq.ft.

What are you doing for carbon scrubbing?

Gotta run, i have a cpl more questions lol

Smiley