MASSIVE SPIDER MITE INFESTATION!!!

[headband 707]

Used properly, pyritherin is quite safe and biodegradable. It also breaks down very fast into a benign substance.

Anyone with a peanut allergy can be killed by peanuts.
And only people who are allergically susceptible to pyritherin should avoid it.

Doc, I know the wiki link says it can still be harmful to humans, but we do know that anyone can edit wiki, and there is nothing that really explains how or why yes?. Yes, we know that folks who are allergic to it can see harm from it.
Many times folks who are a bit overzealous in trying to protect the environment will warn us about just about any substance...especially if it has a chemical sounding name.

I just wanted to add...water is quite toxic and deadly by way of ingestion. Fact.

You really do have it all wrong here and if you worked with pesticides or had any formal training you would KNOW this shit. Until you do I suggest you stop telling ppl that pesticides are all good and keep on using them LOL.. You go right ahead but don't being telling others that it's safe as it's NOT!!!!!!!!! peace out Headband707


HUGE misconception here that i it comes from nature it's safe .. WELL it isn't ....

 

[amannamedtruth]

... as i dont really want to injest anythng i wouldn't normally.....

Thanks again, Peace!!

Like mites?

Try Azamax. Neem based.

 

[m0ff99]

Soooo........got a neem based organic spray and a wand sprayer. dropped em off and told my friend to use the hoover on as much as he can before he sprays them and then to hoover em every couple days carefully and to spray every 2-3 days.

The place is now a no go zone for a while,cant risk bringing them home to my own garden,got some neem for my own now just in case and for a preventative.....fingers crossed for my pal everyone, thanks all for your replies.

 

[Baba Ku]

You really do have it all wrong here and if you worked with pesticides or had any formal training you would KNOW this shit. Until you do I suggest you stop telling ppl that pesticides are all good and keep on using them LOL.. You go right ahead but don't being telling others that it's safe as it's NOT!!!!!!!!! peace out Headband707


HUGE misconception here that i it comes from nature it's safe .. WELL it isn't ....

Put up or shut up.
You have provided nothing but your lip so far.
Do you have formal training? Show us how that formal training shows what it knows.

 

[pinecone]

I'm glad I don't buy pot because I see a lot of people recommending pryritherin, no pest strips, floromite, and the like for use on plants that are 6 weeks into flower. I don't want any of this stuff used on flowering plants that I am going to smoke.

Pine

 

[headband 707]

I'm glad I don't buy pot because I see a lot of people recommending pryritherin, no pest strips, floromite, and the like for use on plants that are 6 weeks into flower. I don't want any of this stuff used on flowering plants that I am going to smoke.

Pine

THANK -YOU yes ,yes and one more yes lol.. Buda ku like I said you go ahead but stop telling others that this is okay lol... I got my degree for ya and you can guess where to find it too lol.. Headband707

Environmental effects
Main article: Environmental effects of pesticides
Pesticide use raises a number of environmental concerns. Over 98% of sprayed insecticides and 95% of herbicides reach a destination other than their target species, including non-target species, air, water and soil.[18] Pesticide drift occurs when pesticides suspended in the air as particles are carried by wind to other areas, potentially contaminating them. Pesticides are one of the causes of water pollution, and some pesticides are persistent organic pollutants and contribute to soil contamination.
In addition, pesticide use reduces biodiversity, reduces nitrogen fixation,[23] contributes to pollinator decline,[24][25][26][27] destroys habitat (especially for birds),[28] and threatens endangered species.[18]
Pests can develop a resistance to the pesticide (pesticide resistance), necessitating a new pesticide. Alternatively a greater dose of the pesticide can be used to counteract the resistance, although this will cause a worsening of the ambient pollution problem.
[edit] Health effects


A sign warning about potential pesticide exposure.


Main articles: Health effects of pesticides and Pesticide poisoning
Pesticides may cause acute and delayed health effects in those who are exposed.[29] Pesticide exposure can cause a variety of adverse health effects. These effects can range from simple irritation of the skin and eyes to more severe effects such as affecting the nervous system, mimicking hormones causing reproductive problems, and also causing cancer.[30] A 2007 systematic review found that "most studies on non-Hodgkin lymphoma and leukemia showed positive associations with pesticide exposure" and thus concluded that cosmetic use of pesticides should be decreased.[31] Strong evidence also exists for other negative outcomes from pesticide exposure including neurological, birth defects, fetal death,[32] and neurodevelopmental disorder.[33]
The American Medical Association recommends limiting exposure to pesticides and using safer alternatives:[6] "Particular uncertainty exists regarding the long-term effects of low-dose pesticide exposures. Current surveillance systems are inadequate to characterize potential exposure problems related either to pesticide usage or pesticide-related illnesses…Considering these data gaps, it is prudent…to limit pesticide exposures…and to use the least toxic chemical pesticide or non-chemical alternative."
The World Health Organization and the UN Environment Programme estimate that each year, 3 million workers in agriculture in the developing world experience severe poisoning from pesticides, about 18,000 of whom die.[18] According to one study, as many as 25 million workers in developing countries may suffer mild pesticide poisoning yearly.[34]
One study found pesticide self-poisoning the method of choice in one third of suicides worldwide, and recommended, among other things, more restrictions on the types of pesticides that are most harmful to humans.[35]

 

[Diamonddss]

imo using no pest strips @ 6 weeks is not a good option. you really want people smoking that shit.

i used azamax 6 weeks flower and that stuff worked and my buds tasted fine. concentrat down low and undersides of fans. spray 2 hours b4 lights on

 

[Diamonddss]

oh yeah and ladybugs immediately

 

[headband 707]

oh yeah and ladybugs immediately

I used to love the idea of ladybugs the only problem with them is they just fly away LOL... there is a small hunting spider here in BC I have no idea what it's called but if you find one of those put it on your plants they are amazing how they go to work. peace out Headband707

 

[Rysam]

for fucks sake dont use HotShot strips in flower room...

DICHLORVOS IS SOME WAAY NASTY SHIT! (didnt mean to caps, but it works)

 

[Baba Ku]

No, dichlorvos is NOT nasty shit...and you can't provide us with one bit of information that would back up your overzealous claim.

And headband, your posting up information concerning pesticides in general is ridiculously off point.

Folks, unless you are harvesting your own organic beans and cooking up free range chicken, you are ingesting these benign pesticides and their residuals every day.

 

[303hydro]

Dichlorvos is RAT POISON, and a CARCINOGEN and TOXIC to humans.

http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/carbaryl-dicrotophos/dichlorvos-ext.html

 

[r1rider]

I can recomend HARKERS harker mectin

Antibiotic insecticides - abamectin, ivermectin, spinosad
Produced by fermentation from actinomycetes or streptomycetes (spinosad)
Usually the activity is selective to individual groups
Abamectin is an acaricide and also shows activity against some thrips
Ivermectin is mainly of veterinary use/But we can use it too
Spinosad shows activity against certain Lepidoptera larvae and thrips
Even gnat larvae are effected by mectin when water into the soil

The active ingredient is Ivermectin a close relative of Abermectin/Avermectin. This is available to buy for treating mites in chickens, pigeons and other birds. Here we have a pure source of Ivermectin that can be used later in flowering than any other acaricide/endectocie and for a fraction of the price that grow shops sell Abermectin for.

The avermectins block the transmittance of electrical activity in nerves and muscle cells by activating voltage dependent membrane-bound proteins containing chloride channels.Chloride channel blockers in both insects and mammals are highly toxic convulsants causing a hyper-excitation of the nervous system through antagonism of the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA.4 Avermectins effectively block GABA stimulated uptake and cause a release of chloride-channel dependent neurotransmitters.

The drug binds and activates glutamate-gated chloride channels (GluCls)[12].The naturally occurring avermectins are a series 16-membered macrocyclic lactone derivatives with potent anthelmintic and insecticidal properties


Breakdown in soil and groundwater: Ivermectin is rapidly degraded in soil. At the soil surface, it is subject to rapid photodegradation, with half-lives of 8 hours to 1 day reported. When applied to the soil surface and not shaded, its soil half-life is about 1 week. Under dark, aerobic conditions, the soil half-life was 2 weeks to 2 months. Loss of ivermectin from soils is thought to be due to microbial degradation. The rate of degradation was significantly decreased under anaerobic conditions. Because ivermectin is nearly insoluble in water and has a strong tendency to bind to soil particles, it is immobile in soil and unlikely to leach or contaminate groundwater. Compounds produced by the degradation of ivermectin are also immobile and unlikely to contaminate groundwater.

Breakdown in water: Ivermectin is rapidly degraded in water. After initial distribution, its half-life in artificial pond water was 4 days. Its half-life in pond sediment was 2 to 4 weeks. It undergoes rapid photodegradation, with a half-life of 12 hours in water. When tested at pH levels common to surface and groundwater (pH 5, 7, and 9), ivermectin did not hydrolyze.

Breakdown in vegetation: Plants do not absorb ivermectin from the soil. Ivermectin is subject to rapid degradation when present as a thin film, as on treated leaf surfaces. Under laboratory conditions and in the presence of light, its half-life as a thin film was 4 to 6 hours.

this can also be used as soil drench for killing fungus gnat larvae, as the plant will not absorb the mectin
it just binds to the soil and becomes immobile.
spray at 1 drop 2L of water
the same for a soil fix.

its effective on a range of pests, even used in humans for treatment of worms or scabies, also used on tobacco crops

there are products on the shelf at stores that contain mectin in one form or another. for one westlands attack has mectin in, but also carries a systemic poison that needs so many weeks to be free from the plant. dynmex was another product to contain mectin.

iver mectin can be used late in flower. but obviously dont go spraying happy buds. pre flowers yes. as long as you give them a good shake off. alternatively you could apply it to the leaf later in flower, and not have to worried about any residue or nasty chemicals from the product.pretty much destroys the mites and anything else.

r1

 

[headband 707]

No, dichlorvos is NOT nasty shit...and you can't provide us with one bit of information that would back up your overzealous claim.

And headband, your posting up information concerning pesticides in general is ridiculously off point.

Folks, unless you are harvesting your own organic beans and cooking up free range chicken, you are ingesting these benign pesticides and their residuals every day.

Really Buda ku because I copied and pasted that from Wiki's "ORGANIC PESTICIDES" lol what more info do you need to convince you this shit is not safe?? It's okay to be wrong it even happens to me LOL

 

[pinecone]

Folks, unless you are harvesting your own organic beans and cooking up free range chicken, you are ingesting these benign pesticides and their residuals every day.

Is dichlorvos approved for crops intended for human consumption?

Pine

 

[StealthDragon]

I wouldn't spray anything on my plants at that stage. Alot of people don't seem to understand that "food safe" has nothing to do with being "smoke safe" ...I've never heard of a single chemical or pesticide being subjected to tests involving smoking the residue left over on the plants....consuming something and smoking something are completely different.

There's plenty of growers that will spray anything on their plants as long as it says "food safe" or "safe to use right up till harvest"...please don't be one of those retards.

so get all the heavy infected leaves off ...not at once...suck them off with with a vacuum sucker every week ...

I think this is your best advice.

temps can be lowered a little as well to slow their reproduction so you can keep them under control till harvest ...and when you do harvest hang them like so:



all the mites will congregate in the red circle in a few hours. You will be amazed how many there will be if there's visible webbing...I did this once with a 1 oz. plant that showed no webbing only moderate leaf spotting...I got about an inch thick of mites on top of the broom handle...probably would have made an awesome picture. Then just vacuum them off, or hit em with a big fireball!

 

[headband 707]

^^^ I agree^^ vacuum is safest ..or if you have CO2 and know how to use it.. peace out Headband707

 

[RipVanWeed]

Hey, I got a question about smoking/eating coconut oil.

I sent some meds to some 22yrs old students. Along with the dried flowers i sent some of the CannaCaps I've been making. I just asked for some feedback and he said that they've been opening the Caps and lacing their blunts with the coconut oil infused with Hash Oil at 6:1 ratio.

I had included info about swallowing these CannaCaps, never even considered anyone smoking it.

I sell 'em to recreational users so I can give them to people who are sick for free. Every single medical user has realized some kind of benefit, with no negitives. Chrone's, migraines, prostate cancer, some pain relief.

My 20 or so yr old son recently broke his femur while mtb riding. Way painful with alot of muscle spasming for the first 2 wks of recovery. He said when he got high by smoking, his leg hurt more as he was noticing every little sensation. When he took the CannaCaps he could sleep way better, they did at least as good or better than the script for Robaxin did.

Sorry, tangent.

Thoughts on inhaling coconut smoke?

By the way, soak dried Lavender flowers in water for 4 days, strain, dilute 20:1. If you or your neighbor have any Lavender in the yard you can kill, and prevent mites in the future for free.

Read this thread Organics for Mites....JayKush, ClackamasCoot, MicrobeMan, CT Guy, these guys know their stuff.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=192286

Peace Out,

 

[Rysam]

Dichlorvos
62-73-7
Hazard Summary-Created in April 1992; Revised in January 2000
Dichlorvos is an insecticide used on crops, animals, and in pest-strips. Acute (short-term) and chronic (long-term) exposures of humans to dichlorvos results in the inhibition of an enzyme, acetylcholinesterase, with neurotoxic effects including perspiration, vomiting, diarrhea, drowsiness, fatigue, headache, and at high concentrations, convulsions, and coma. No information is available on the reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects of dichlorvos on humans. A study by the National Toxicology Program (NTP) reported an increased incidence of tumors of the pancreas, mammary glands, and forestomach in animals. EPA has classified dichlorvos as a Group B2, probable human carcinogen.
Please Note: The main sources of information for this fact sheet are EPA's Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS), which contains information on inhalation chronic toxicity of dichlorvos and the Reference Concentration (RfC), oral chronic toxicity and the Reference Dose (RfD), and the carcinogenic effects of dichlorvos including the unit cancer risk for oral exposure; and the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry's (ATSDR's) Toxicological Profile for Dichlorvos.

Uses
Dichlorvos is used as an agricultural insecticide on crops, stored products, and animals. It is also used as an insecticide for slow release on pest-strips for pest control in homes. Dichlorvos is used as an anthelmintic (worming agent) for dogs, swine, and horses, as a botacide (agent that kills fly larvae) for horses, and in flea collars for dogs. (4,7)
In 1995, EPA proposed cancellation of dichlorvos for all home uses, and for many commercial and industrial uses. (7)
The EPA requires cautionary warning labels on products containing dichlorvos. (7)
Sources and Potential Exposure
Individuals involved in the manufacture, formulation, and application of dichlorvos in agricultural, household, and public health uses are most likely to be exposed to this insecticide. (1,7)
Individuals may be exposed to dichlorvos from indoor air in buildings where it is used in pest strips or sprays for insect control. (2,7)
Small amounts of residues of dichlorvos have been detected in food. (3,7)
Assessing Personal Exposure
Tests are available that measure the activity of two enzymes, serum cholinesterase and erythrocyte acetylcholinesterase, that are affected by dichlorvos. (1)
Health Hazard Information
Acute Effects:
Dichlorvos exerts its toxic effects in humans and animals by inhibiting the enzyme, acetylcholinesterase. Effects from acute exposure include perspiration, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, drowsiness, fatigue, headache, and at very high concentrations, convulsions, and coma. (2,3,7)
Tests involving acute exposure of rats, mice, and rabbits have demonstrated dichlorvos to have high to extreme acute toxicity from oral or dermal exposure and extreme acute toxicity from inhalation. (5)
Chronic Effects (Noncancer):
Acetylcholinesterase inhibition may also occur in humans from chronic exposure to dichlorvos. (3,7)
Symptoms in animals orally exposed to dichlorvos include ataxia, salivation, dyspnea, tremors, and diarrhea. (4,7)
The Reference Concentration (RfC) for dichlorvos is 0.0005 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m3) based on decreased brain cholinesterase activity in rats. The RfC is an estimate (with uncertainty spanning perhaps an order of magnitude) of a continuous inhalation exposure to the human population (including sensitive subgroups), that is likely to be without appreciable risk of deleterious noncancer effects during a lifetime. It is not a direct esimator of risk but rather a reference point to gauge the potential effects. At exposures increasingly greater than the RfC, the potential for adverse health effects increases. Lifetime exposure above the RfC does not imply that an adverse health effect would necessarily occur. (4)
EPA has medium confidence in the study on which the RfC was based because the principal study was well-conducted for its time; medium confidence in the database because it is relatively complete but an inhalation-based assessment of its multigeneration reproductive toxicity was not found; and consequently the confidence in the RfC is medium. (4)
The Reference Dose (RfD) for dichlorvos is 0.0005 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day (mg/kg/d) based on plasma and red blood cell cholinesterase inhibition in male and female dogs and brain cholinesterase inhibition in male dogs. (4)
EPA has medium to high confidence in the study on which the RfD was based because, although the principal study is of good quality, there was a change in the dosing regime; medium confidence in the database because it lacks a rabbit developmental toxicity study and adequate studies to fully address chronic and reproductive toxicity in the rat; and, consequently, medium confidence in the RfD. (4)
Reproductive/Developmental Effects:
No information is available on the reproductive or developmental effects of dichlorvos in humans.
In one study, birth defects in fetuses were observed in rats exposed to dichlorvos by injection; however, in several other animal studies, birth defects were not observed. (2,3,7)
Sperm abnormalities were observed in mice injected with dichlorvos. (7)
Cancer Risk:
No information is available on the carcinogenic effects of dichlorvos in humans.
In a gavage study by the NTP, there was an increased incidence of tumors of the pancreas and leukemia in male rats, tumors of the pancreas and mammary gland in female rats, and tumors of the forestomach in both sexes of mice. (8)
Dichlorvos was not found to be carcinogenic in an animal study by the National Cancer Institute (NCI) in which the compound was administered in the diet. (9)
EPA has classified dichlorvos as a Group B2, probable human carcinogen. (4)
EPA uses mathematical models, based on human and animal studies, to estimate the probability of a person developing cancer from drinking water containing a specified concentration of a chemical. EPA calculated an oral cancer slope factor of 0.29 (mg/kg/d)-1 and an oral unit risk estimate of 8.3 × 10-6 (µg/L)-1. EPA estimates that, if an individual were to continuously drink water containing dichlorvos at an average of 0.1 µg/L (1 x 10-4 mg/L) over his or her entire lifetime, that person would theoretically have no more than a one-in-a-million increased chance of developing cancer as a direct result of drinking water containing this chemical. Similarly, EPA estimates that drinking water containing 1.0 µg/L (1 x 10-3 mg/L) would result in not greater than a one-in-a-hundred thousand increased chance of developing cancer, and water containing 10.0 µg/L (1 x 10-2 mg/L) would result in not greater than a one-in-ten thousand increased chance of developing cancer. For a detailed discussion of confidence in the potency estimates, please see IRIS. (4)
Physical Properties
The chemical formula for dichlorvos is C4H7Cl2O4P, and its molecular weight is 220.98 g/mol. (3,7)
Dichlorvos occurs as an oily colorless to amber liquid that is slightly soluble in water. (1,3,4)
Dichlorvos has an aromatic chemical odor; the odor threshold has not been established. (1,4)
The vapor pressure for dichlorvos is 0.012 mm Hg at 20 °C. (3,6)
The log octanol/water partition coefficient for dichlorvos is 1.16. (7)

http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/hlthef/dichlorv.html





busted me on not being pesticide kinda guy.. looks toxic to me? hell, it was considered for a ban..hmm

I use HotShots in veg just not in flower.

 

[Diamonddss]

i make edibles with the trimmings so no wayyyy to pest strips. i was amazed how low temps/azamax every 4 days, and ladybugs actually worked .
the fact that people are willing to use poison so quickly so late in flower is exactly why i grow it myself for myself. Others couldnt give a fuck as long as there precious $$ is saved