The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[mrktwiz]

mommy........drool

 

[FillthePotmore]

Generator of Soil (Smart Pots vrs. In the Ground)

Generator of Soil (Smart Pots vrs. In the Ground)

Trinity:

What do you think about using the "generator of soil" mix of amendments on a 300 gallon smart pot?

Last season, I used approximately the same "GENERATOR of SOIL" mix from the "BIG FARM" in large homemade - open bottomed - smart pots at the "CREEK GARDEN." Native soil is added when planting in the ground with this mix to balance enriched amendments and aid in cooling. However, I did not add native soil to the smart pot mix; I left the bottom open, turned the under soil, and added gypsum. Others have done especially well with trenches scratched in and smart pots placed atop (more room for the roots to stretch laterally if they so desire).

Pots vrs. Holes in the Ground: Depending on location and situation and from my personal experience, in the ground takes the cake hands down! If you are considering using something similar to the mix below and are utilizing smart pots I would recommend cutting it with an organic bagged soil, such as, Happy Frog or your personal favorite. I was concerned with how hot it would be last season and by adding 3 - 5 bags of Happy Frog to each pot, including one bag as a transplanting buffer for the ladies as they were introduced to their new homes, they all grew successfully - nothing burned.

Mapinguari: The generator of soil mix can be found on page 89 of this thread - It was my first post in icmag.com

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159846&page=89

Soil & Amendments for Gargantuan 8lb. to 12lb. TREES (working in 10x10 to 12x12 holes)!

1). 20% worm castings
2). A special mix at a local compost/worm farm at equal proportion to the worm castings.
*Special mix contains: Green compost, chicken manure, cow
manure, rice hauls, and perlite.
3). Five bags of perlite. (Big and chunky is better but more expensive)
4). Optional: Cut above mix with... Native soil, (2-5 bags) of
Happy Frog and or Ocean Forest (your favorite potting soil) -
depending on your holes/containers size. (Save
one bag of Happy Frog for each tree to transplant directly
into their new holes once your clones and or seeds have
hardened off).
5). 1/2 bag of oyster shell
6). 1/2 bag of steamed bone meal
7). 96oz of Rock phosphate
8). 96oz of Azomite
9). 96oz of Glacier Rock Dust
10). 96oz of Gypsum
11). 96oz of Green Sand
12). 96oz of Feather Meal
13). 64oz of Kelp
14) Additional Digested Cow Manure (several tractor buckets are placed and mixed in each hole and later more is added as a top dressing - The feeder roots grow right up and into this layer and suck up the nutrients and teas applied throughout the season).

Hope that helps... Happy Farming!!!

 

[mapinguari]

Thanks a lot, Fill! What an awesome first post.

 

[Trinity Gold]

Helped a bunch. I have all pro mix in my smart pots which is just peat and perlite. My beds are drained of nutrients...I'm going to give it a shot and see how it goes. I agree with you that in the ground is much better but at my location I would essentially be pouring water in to a bowl if I went in the ground. I think if I brought in a bunch of coir, compost, gypsum, and sand I could build a better native soil...but I already have the smart pots in the garden area. At my upper garden I am going to be building the native soil to have huge mounds but that is a long term project.

 

[bushweed]

Takes the cake alright...

 

[BigTex]

Personaly I think unless you are growing in a swamp smart pots aren't smart at all. I've never seen plants like fill's in smart pots....but this opinion is coming from a guy that's been growing in the ground for 20 years. Ground grown.....

 

[Butte_Creek]

peaceful valley has discontinued brix mix. anyone know about this? pretty unfortunate.


anyone have a rule of thumb for kelp meal application rate for amending beds? 300 gal of amended compost, in a 400 gal smart pot fyi.

 

[BrotherGanja]

I just got my hands on a cut called Oregon Pino Nior it is said to be a 45 day finisher. I am super stoked on that. Also was reported to yield 3 lbs+ Outdoor. Sounds good to me. Does anyone have any other info on this strain. Hope everyones off season is going well.

 

[Butte_Creek]

i see a lot of you guys running mr. nice

i have access to a mother of mr. nice, and am very interested because of the early finishing times and stellar looking flowers.

can anyone shed some light on her specifically: yield, potency, vigor, possibility of large plant genetics?

any information would be appreciated


also, has anyone run tropical green crack? said to be hawaiin kush x green crack. sounds delicious.

 

[HorseMouth]

What the F*** am I going to do with all this powder Brix Mix? It's good for yrs. and I was planning to buy the liquid mix in fresh every summer. So now I have something like 50 lbs. of dry Brix Mix.

The convinced me to buy it last year cuz they would be making this mix for YEARS to come.

Great.

Peace

 

[YosemiteSam]

HM...check out this thread http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=202455. Rootzbelow posted the formula for brix mix, including the liquid, that he got from Peaceful Valley. Looks like it would be pretty easy to duplicate yourself to go with your dry.

 

[Butte_Creek]

horsemouth-wow. that is bad business. sorry. who knows, i was at peaceful valley and asked a girl working there to buy some brix mix, she was kind of confused and said they didn't have any.. i was like that must be wrong, she looked it up in the computer and she said they discontinued it due to liquid bottles blowing up and all that noise.

it is a terrible loss.

 

[Trinity Gold]

I called Peaceful Valley today and they emailed me the formula.

Here is what they sent me :

Liquid Brix Mix

16.5% Molasses
16.5% non GMO pure Malt
25% Phytamin 4-3-4
24% Humax
16.5% liquid sulfur
1.5% Therm-X 70



Dry Brix Mix

13% Maxicrop
19% Fertall MB Powdered Chelates
31% Powdered sugar
37% Diamond K soluble Sulfate of Potash

So for example for 20 L of brix mix liquid you would mix

3300mL molasses, malt syrup,and liquid sulfur
300mL ThermX70
5000mL Phytamin 4-3-4
4800mL Humax

For 10lbs of dry brix mix powder you would blend

590.2 grams maxicrop 862.6 grams of Fertall 1407.4 grams powdered sugar 1679.8 grams Diamond K

 

[DoobieDuck]

Three hundred and thirty thousand views..along with almost three thousand replies..this thread is epic.. and that is in its first year. Thanks everyone for sharing what you do here. I just can't wait to see what "large plants" are grown out this year...sittin on the edge of my seat and it's in the front Row! Thanks DD.

 

[mapinguari]

From Rootzbelow, on the life without Brix Mix thread (sez this is what PV wrote him, along with the same recipe TG posted):

Feel free to change the blend to suit your needs and the availability of the ingredients. You do not have to use every ingredient for the mix to be beneficial. For example: if you don’t have Phytamin 4-3-4, you could sub a liquid fish or a dry fish powder, like HFPC hydrolyzed fish. If you prefer, you can use a liquid kelp extract in place of maxicrop. If you don’t have a trace mineral deficiency, you can do without the MB powdered chelates. Keep in mind that kelps, such as maxicrop, do provide some trace minerals. If you don’t have access to a liquid sulfur, just leave it out of the blend.

 

[mrktwiz]

I just got my hands on a cut called Oregon Pino Nior it is said to be a 45 day finisher. I am super stoked on that. Also was reported to yield 3 lbs+ Outdoor. Sounds good to me. Does anyone have any other info on this strain. Hope everyones off season is going well.

Brother;

Man that cut sounds perfect for what I need. I suspect their is no seed vendor offering that correct? I would think something like that is clone only probably from a friend?

I would LOVE to get my hands on some of that for here.

 

[Kangativa]

Hi up there.....Wasnt such a good year on the East coast of OZ this year, with some devastating floods and Cyclones.
These girls are on a creek bank and took a hammering, with some plants getting washed away. But they bounced back with a bit of luv.
The Mullumbimby Madness behind the wife has still got 3 months of growing yet, so as per usual will be a big girl.
Anyway I wish you all up there a great season and healthy growing.....K

 

[HorseMouth]

TG,

I can't give you any more Rep, so thanks again for helping me with the formulas.

Kanga,

So happy to see some Summer time love from the Southern Hemisphere. Got me tingly for sure.

Peace

 

[Eatatjoes]

Those are some very nice trees Kangativa.

In the brix mix post above it says non gmo pure malt, what type of malt are they talking about? Liquid brewers malt extract or dry malt wheat/barley or something else?

 

[Trinity Gold]

Malt Syrup.

This is the Liquid Sulfur : http://www.groworganic.com/that-2-5-gallon.html