The access thread.........

[hippydan]

Back where I'm from a lot of the growers still use ATV's (4 wheelers) and pull carts. They're in the woods. Everyone has one, nobody thinks twice when they hear it. If you're only using it for your grow then yeah, you may run into problems. Sometimes hiding "in plain sight" is the best method if your area allows it. Not to say you want to grow plants in your backyard or anything, just do what best suits your needs!

 

[yeahwhat]

Mucho respecto for those supporting japanese bikes/ATVs. I use my F-150 wood hauler for planting time , and my Honda TRX250X for everything else thru harvest. Super duper props to the hawaiian dude - I've owned 3 LT500Rs. Only thing that might catch you is a sideways space shuttle. All this, of course, on my own and surrounding properties with permission. first post BTW, lurked on OG for years. R.I.P. OG!

 

[Leroy Brown]

^ Great first post.

haha, give me a 2-stroke 250 mx bike & I will burn a Zilla in any terrain. Put me on an MX track or tighter trails on my '88 R & again, the Zilla will get burned.

Either way those things are dirty & I've always wanted one. Highly recommend sleaving the crank bearings, the outer races spin in the case. You can also dimple the case with a prick punch & locktite them in there to save cash. THAT is the reason every used LT you see for sale mentions it has a BRAND NEW top end &/or crank, suzuki used poor castings on all there 80's MX motors, they chew through top ends because of the case issue, well that and detonation- the newer cylinders with the extra stud are better, you need to jet them right, redo the squish, and leak down test as well. . Look into Dr D, he sells the inserts I beleive.

 

[Leroy Brown]

I think its more logistics than access per say. Because vehicle choice depends on your objectives planting, watering, harvesting.. etc. Also it depends on your sites location and other factors such as houses near your site, how loud your vehicle is.

If you live out in the country maybe none of this applies to you, but I grow in the suburbs and this is what I need to consider. When digging holes and admending soil I have to use a car to carry all my supplies, just no way around it. When I deposit my gear I do it at night, soil admendments and shit go into black bags so when I toss em into the weeds or a ditch by the side of the road they dont stand out. Tools too big for bags get thrown as far from the road as possible.

When I get rid of my gear I do it on a sterch of road where I can see headlights coming from either direction. It gives me the heads up, and allows me to have my cover ready, a small 2 gal gas can with a little amount of gas in it. When everythings out I drive my car down to an area with a good shoulder pull off take my gas can and collect my gear.

Last year I bought a 49cc scooter and used that to make my rounds. Its light on gas and easy to drag into the brush. It worked like a charm, quiet and it can go around 40-45 mph and gets like 60 to 80 gpm.

At harvest, I used the scooter to go cut and dry the harvest, but when the time comes to transport it out, the car is the way to go because it can hold more. Planned right and you can limit the use of your car to only 2-3 times a season. It all just depends on how much you want to put out.

Yes yes yes. Great post. I like the gas can idea.

Depends on the spot as well, some I just walk to in the middle of the night.

 

[Leroy Brown]

I've got a raptor 700 that I've always wanted to use for some deep ass guerilla growing.

Had ideas of painting it all flat black getting a camo net and exhaust silencer etc.

I'd probably end up riding all day though and forget to tend to the plants

Do it up man, just try to keep the bike normal looking. Definitly hear you on the quiet exhaust, that's a must, but I have several VERY bright bikes & have never been concerned (In MY AREA at least) I just park off the trail & where it can't be seen. If in the event anything ever went down, camo netting just looks that much more suspect- If I was ever caught in a patch I'd rather let my lawyer explain that I was just taking a piss while riding & not have to explain why my bike was covered in camo netting, one less thing carry as well.

 

[RedDirtWarrior]

So you guys use dirtbikes and scooters, for what? Just access to the area? Or do you strap a big backpack full of water on ya too?

If ANYTHING is risky in guerilla growing, its getting caught hauling a backpack full of *insert guerilla grow item here* in the middle of the woods.

Where I live access to my spot is via a trailhead at the top oif a residential road (houses all around) I have to be very very careful about what my bag looks like on my back, because if it looks like it is stuffed full of something then ill be raising a bunch of suspicion. (why is he hauling a backpack full of stuff into the woods? weed grower....)

Because of this I pretty much cant haul any soil or water. I have resorted to hauling compressed coco bricks(which I pack carefully into my backpack so it appears as if there isnt much in it), and then letting them sit in the forest for a few weeks til they fatten up from rain, then I mix this coco with the native clay-like soil, and add chem ferts (organic=way to much to haul).

I gotta say just hauling the coco bricks makes the risk almost not worth it, what if I got caught with those coco bricks? Well officer, i thought id just take a hike with a backpack full of coco bricks....

I dunno how all of u guys get away with hauling all this soil and water and supplies to your spots. must be something im missing.

 

[SexInTheCity]

Hey RedDirt, you should use earth google or other maps ... there has to be more than one entrance to your wooded area/good spot...look for the best entrance and go at night, car/truck/motorcycle/atv drop offs with bigger equipment/tools stocks are great if able to keep a degree of concealment...

Ok guys, I know this thread is ACCESS thread...but what about once you ACCESS your outdoorspot you now have to decide if you are staying on site for a certain time or is it a quick visit....for the people who stay on-site I think its also needed we can talk about what tools and equipment you use onsite..(Tent, Tarps, wood or other riggable make shift cabins) and how do you keep concealed and camo'd? We all know the enviornment and geographical location is the best to work on...for instance a friend and I used heavy heavy wooded area and in the middle of that was a small mountain, we used one side of his mountain...This year I plan on camo'd tent with brush/sticks covering it completly and trying to "stealth" my fire place...but I know there more useful mechanical and other tools and ways to conceal yourself on site (sleeping, eating, etc. etc...) ..Ok now that we have a way to ACCESS, CONCEALED STAY...... . . .. now what about exit? (Pre-harvest & harvest) .. .. . Peace!

 

[Claude Hopper]

I dunno how all of u guys get away with hauling all this soil and water and supplies to your spots. must be something im missing.

Sadly, I think we eventually end up reading about a lot of them in the news.

 

[Leroy Brown]

That's the great thing about riding, completely normal to have a backpack on. I can fit 8 gallons in mine & it doesn't look suspicious, even if it does it's no big deal as I'm on an ORV & about to disappear into the trails anyways.

When it's soil, like 3.8 cu/ft bales or 2+ bags of 40lb topsoil it's usually hidden in the trail network ahead of time & brought in further by orv when nobody else is going to be out there, whether it be night, rain, cold, morning, etc.

 

[Leroy Brown]

So you guys use dirtbikes and scooters, for what? Just access to the area? Or do you strap a big backpack full of water on ya too?

If ANYTHING is risky in guerilla growing, its getting caught hauling a backpack full of *insert guerilla grow item here* in the middle of the woods.

Where I live access to my spot is via a trailhead at the top oif a residential road (houses all around) I have to be very very careful about what my bag looks like on my back, because if it looks like it is stuffed full of something then ill be raising a bunch of suspicion. (why is he hauling a backpack full of stuff into the woods? weed grower....)

Because of this I pretty much cant haul any soil or water. I have resorted to hauling compressed coco bricks(which I pack carefully into my backpack so it appears as if there isnt much in it), and then letting them sit in the forest for a few weeks til they fatten up from rain, then I mix this coco with the native clay-like soil, and add chem ferts (organic=way to much to haul).

I gotta say just hauling the coco bricks makes the risk almost not worth it, what if I got caught with those coco bricks? Well officer, i thought id just take a hike with a backpack full of coco bricks....

I dunno how all of u guys get away with hauling all this soil and water and supplies to your spots. must be something im missing.

I have spots like that, some spots I even do it multiple ways, ride in, other times go jogging. Sometimes you can leave stuff ahead of time to. Sounds like you are doing what works for your spot & situation, that's the important factor.

What you're missing though is some Cahone's my friend Caught in the woods with coco bricks? So what. You don't say shit. You can turn it around and ask them whats the problem, or ask them if you are under arrest or being detained, Hell you could even say nothing! You have the right to remain silent It's not a crime to carry a shovel, dirt, and water in the woods. Sure you might have to write off that spot but you're not going to jail for possession of coco-bricks.

On that note though, I try to avoid walk-in access if there is clear posting of no trespassing, which 1st offense on that property = a written notice to not trespass, rofl.

Also, I prefer to drop any supplies with a car, out of site, quick in & out, then come back & do the hauling.

because if it looks like it is stuffed full of something then ill be raising a bunch of suspicion

You can always carry a fishing pole, not suspicous at all to have a pack busting at the seams if you've got a fishing pole- it's just tackle

 

[oldhaole]

Not quite so Fast There Big guy

Not quite so Fast There Big guy

^ Great first post.

haha, give me a 2-stroke 250 mx bike & I will burn a Zilla in any terrain. Put me on an MX track or tighter trails on my '88 R & again, the Zilla will get burned.

Either way those things are dirty & I've always wanted one. Highly recommend sleaving the crank bearings, the outer races spin in the case. You can also dimple the case with a prick punch & locktite them in there to save cash. THAT is the reason every used LT you see for sale mentions it has a BRAND NEW top end &/or crank, suzuki used poor castings on all there 80's MX motors, they chew through top ends because of the case issue, well that and detonation- the newer cylinders with the extra stud are better, you need to jet them right, redo the squish, and leak down test as well. . Look into Dr D, he sells the inserts I beleive.

I'd happily take you up on that chalange. Renember you are behind me and trying to get me to stop. If you get too close I just shower you with rocks,

If things get too dicey, do a J turn And the quad goes vs bike. I have 4 wheels, and can put you down by just by ramming you.

Not to mention, Ive only done this for years, and I know the fields like the back of my hand. Cane field roads are 12 ft wide, and straight, Very few tight turns, Lot's of places to open her up.

And I guarantee you while you are chasing me, my partner will be right on your ass. If I don't take you down...He will.

On a tight track, or a run thru the toolies... your 250 would own me. Period.

But a 500 LT. On wide graded dirt roads, where the only way to get me to stop, is to take me off the bike...you don't stand a chance.

 

[bentom187]

its so fast off road ,stealth and if it brakes im not pushing a huge machine from the forest-home,
also great for your health,and alot of fun even with a crapload of supplies strapped to ya.
also its alot easier to hide the bike if you have to and its enviormentally great it doesnt leave anything except thin tire tracks.

 

[hamstring]

Disk brakes front and rear spent some frog skins. My guess is $950??? Nice bike I like the hybrids with the thinner tires trek makes one the 7.1 - 7.5 series.

I love bikes with a helmet your just another geek (sorry about that bike riders I am a geek too) riding for exercise one moment the next your in the bush. Such an easy transition no one notices it.

 

[bentom187]

Disk brakes front and rear spent some frog skins. My guess is $950??? Nice bike I like the hybrids with the thinner tires trek makes one the 7.1 - 7.5 series.

I love bikes with a helmet your just another geek (sorry about that bike riders I am a geek too) riding for exercise one moment the next your in the bush. Such an easy transition no one notices it.

$1100 ... i currentley ride for excersize and growning the ganja and gettin outside in the fresh air, i used to race XC though.

 

[Leroy Brown]

Nice

I've been thinking about getting rid of my road bike and getting something better for off road, mine is not properly fitted & it makes a huge difference, fucks with my knees & my nad's, and once I start thinking about how it's probably really bad for my nad's I start freaking the fuck out & thinking about it more.

I'm pretty sure if/when I decide to step up my pedal game I'll get a bike like yours, thing is the road bike fucking FLIES on the road, and definitly doesn't look like I'm growing ganja on it:

Not my pics but same deal-

 

[bentom187]

nice steed, i know your gonna laugh,but those spandex shorts everyone laughs at actually have huge protective gel pads where it counts,its not a complete solution but youll be happy if ya go on a 5+ hour ride. just wear somthin overthem and youll be good to go.

 

[bentom187]

if you like going as fast as a road bike but off road,grab a 29er.

 

[bentom187]

almost forgot this one cause i dont ride it,its a gianni motta triathalon , with columbus frame transtorque seat stays and campy record/ambrosio parts i was thinking about a restore/update but im broke, so its just stays in the closet. these bikes are no longer imported from italy but the company is still going.
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[bentom187]

!!! new idea !!!!

well i thought about it beforeand somethings turnned me away from the idea but im def. gonna try it this year deforestation is everywhere so we must adapt.

ok here it goes,plant in a erea along a coast line that you can only access during low tide and the beach is exposed !!! and impossible to get to by foot during high tide. the draw back is planting inward far enough for sand not to be of a concern.

 

[.clunk]

I rely on my worn out hiking boots and a roll of toilet paper to get me in and out of most sticky situations.

My worn out boots don't leave tracks, even in soft sand, and the roll of toilet paper is the perfect decoy for jumping out of the woods in a place you otherwise shouldn't be; I have yet to run into a single person who'll question me coming out of the woods with half a roll flapping behind me with an embarassed look on my face - it's the universal sign for "I just went poop back there, don't go poking around!"

I try and avoid any incidents by working extremely early in the morning, but sometimes it can't be helped so it's best to have plan B in place, just in case.