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How many of you guys never flush your coco?

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ninjagaiden

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just curious.

about to take drip clean out of my line-up as it seems to keep doing wierd things to my res and was a little concerned about salt build up.

Any one?
 
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buddin_904

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the topic and the content are like 2 different threads...expecting something else....but anwyays just got drip clean....whats the fyi on it...havent used it yet....saw the high P when i got it for the 1st time wasnt 2 happy about that....
 
forty

forty

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drip clean sounds like some sort of diaper for those eligible for a denny's discount. i don't see the point in not flushing, then buying something to substitute for the bad habit...
 
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B. Self Reliant

Assuming you're adding it at the prescribed 1ml/gal, I have a hard time believing it's the Drip Clean. If anything that should help. . .

forty - The purpose behind not flushing is to save water, time & energy on a process that is only necessary due to potential salt buildup. I wish I had a drain to waste tray for my coco that drained straight into a floor drain. I'd probably go without the Drip Clean if that were the case, but until that happens I'm stuck mixing and hauling nutrients upstairs to my grow. If I can save myself the trouble of making gallons & gallons of RO water for flushing, the hassle of carrying it all it upstairs, & the messy business of sucking the waste water back up from my collection dishes with a shop vac, I will every time.

Also, if you use larger pots (I use 10 gallon containers) Drip Clean makes it possible to keep your coco at that perfect "sweet spot" of moisture content. Not too wet & not too dry. When you're forced to flush coco on a constant basis, you are also forced into the cycle of over-saturated medium, dry medium, over-saturated medium, dry medium, over-saturated medium, dry medium. . . The oversturated part is not as bad as it is with soil, rockwool or other mediums, but it's less than ideal & I have found a big improvement since eliminating the waterings that result in run-off.
 
farmdalefurr

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
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do you use shooting powder by any chance? i noticed that will give a weird smell in the rez, at least in mine it does. the shit will sure build up some salts as well. i just started flushing 5 ladies that are a week from the chop and they last 3 weeks w/ the shooting powder left alot of salt looking buildup around the bottom holes of my containers.
 
Xerhoss

Xerhoss

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Uh, i once UNDER FLUSHED my coco and the girls started doing the funky chicken in no time. They looked like a team of mutants, until i figured out what the hell was going on and flushed them all individually.

But then again, this seems to be more about the use of drip clean. So on to that...i flush my coco with 1/4 strength nutes and then use hygrozyme in the first feeding (usually a couple days after transplant). No drip clean or subsequent flushes using Head/Rez 6/9 formula with daily waterings to 10 or 20% runoff.

So i guess the only time i flush my coco is when it first comes out of the package and again for 2 weeks prior to harvest. Never had to do it during the grow so long as it was preflushed well and is watered to proper runoff each day.
 
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tricky

i flush mine with ph ajusted plain water for 2 weeks aleast perfect every time :dance013:
 
whodare

whodare

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never pre-flushed... wont waste my time or money...

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edit: for clarification i use botanicare coco and the cns17 line...
 
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buddin_904

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B. Self Reliant said:
Assuming you're adding it at the prescribed 1ml/gal, I have a hard time believing it's the Drip Clean. If anything that should help. . .

forty - The purpose behind not flushing is to save water, time & energy on a process that is only necessary due to potential salt buildup. I wish I had a drain to waste tray for my coco that drained straight into a floor drain. I'd probably go without the Drip Clean if that were the case, but until that happens I'm stuck mixing and hauling nutrients upstairs to my grow. If I can save myself the trouble of making gallons & gallons of RO water for flushing, the hassle of carrying it all it upstairs, & the messy business of sucking the waste water back up from my collection dishes with a shop vac, I will every time.

Also, if you use larger pots (I use 10 gallon containers) Drip Clean makes it possible to keep your coco at that perfect "sweet spot" of moisture content. Not too wet & not too dry. When you're forced to flush coco on a constant basis, you are also forced into the cycle of over-saturated medium, dry medium, over-saturated medium, dry medium, over-saturated medium, dry medium. . . The oversturated part is not as bad as it is with soil, rockwool or other mediums, but it's less than ideal & I have found a big improvement since eliminating the waterings that result in run-off.
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ive never used drip clean before....but i just got my 1st bottle and the directions say 1ml per 10 l. thats around .35ml per gal....and thats the bottle dosage....what are you guys using?
 
Xerhoss

Xerhoss

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whodare said:
never pre-flushed... wont waste my time or money... i use botanicare coco...
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It's nice to know they have some chit out there that's good to go out of the bag. :good: I've just been using the Hydrofarm bricks and gettin in it up to my elbows. I use warm tap water for rehydrating them, then flush with 1/4 strength nutes before potting. A little work - and very little nutes, but for $10 a brick at the local i don't mind. I don't think i'm spending as much on nutes to flush as it would to buy the botannicare product. Not that it's about those marginal costs for me, really, just sayin. :joint:
 
forty

forty

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B. Self Reliant said:
forty - The purpose behind not flushing is to save water, time & energy on a process that is only necessary due to potential salt buildup.
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huh?? lets buy drip clean to save water n time? i wonder how much water is used to manufacture drip clean in the first place:thinking:. how bout get a better handle on feedin your plants to prevent build up, piss in the yard, and shower less? this'll save the fish and free up time to sit on yer ass and watch more MTV.
 
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Herborizer

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I run canna coco, canna nutes, and drip clean. I have zero run off (blumats). I never flush until 14 days before chop. Zero issues. Grade A I have been told.
 
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Herborizer

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whodare said:
separate your money from your wallet...
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You clearly never used drip clean. It's Very cheap. One bottle can last years at .4ml per gallon.

What drip clean does is prevent nute buildup in your medium. The result is much easier grows. If you have your nutes and water figured out, with drip clean lockout is a thing of the past.

The fact that I never ever have run off, I believe I could even be saving money because of drip clean. A lot of people shoot for 19-20% runoff and that's a lot of wasted nutes.
 
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I'm with whodare on this one.
I was given a bottle of drip clean for free from the local hydro store dude and it made no difference whatsoever.
I've been growing in coco for a few years now and salt build up has never been an issue.
Most guys run to waste with coco anyway so why would salt build up be an issue? Also, theirs documented no run to waste grows with no salt issues.
Just my opinion from several years of growing in coco, Drip Clean is a waste of time/money.
Oh, the only time I flush is for the last two weeks before harvest:)
 
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