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GeorgeWBush

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In response to the first part of the OP, I think that what happened is horrible, and so will most people who learn about it. Most everyone will feel compassion for that little girl, the mother, and father, and feel anger/hatred for the killers. The jurors in that trial will feel the need for justice and send them to long sentences or death. For the most part, people are good.

I think also that most criminals still live by that code. If someone goes to jail for child molestation or child murder and it is known, many times that person will get the shit beat out of them or even killed when they go in.

In response to the second part regarding what is wrong with society in general, I think that is a very complex topic and there is no single answer to that question. It can really be looked at in so many ways.

On the one hand there is social engineering and conditioning. Television is a huge culprit here. It's nothing more than a big hypnosis machine, feeding the subconscious subliminally with all kinds of things, some intentional, some not, but it programs people subconsciously nonetheless.

The problem is whenever you watch the news and many shows there's lots of violence, murder, rage, and general negativity. There's lots of programs with good stuff too, but most programs IMO have lots of bad stuff that is 'dramatic' or 'exciting'. In part this can be very entertaining, but at the same time it does program people through repetition of themes. Especially the news. You never see good happy stuff on there.

An interesting movie I saw recently was 'Bowling for Columbine'. I'm not a huge Michael Moore fan but one thing that really stood out to me was when they went to Canada and no one had their doors locked and there is almost no violence there. The last murder in the particular city was like 5 years previous. You look at the news and it is not all doom and gloom and negativity. It's happy stuff. The people there were happy and friendly. Now, that movie may be one sided (In fact knowing Michael Moore it is most certainly very one sided), but that bit seemed interesting and to me obvious. It's called social programming.

You go into a big city like New York, and it's very crowded and people are very busy so it is logical that most people would become immune to seeing people as people, they are just a part of the environment that is constant, so you need to learn to ignore. Also for many reasons (some of which is social programming) you 'know' that there are many people you can't trust (which is true) especially in a big dangerous city so there is a safety mechanism inside most people. But...

I think a lot of people being unfriendly comes down to fear and insecurity, and a desire for social acceptance. You go onto a subway and everyone is sitting next to each other and trying not to make eye contact with anyone else. There is complete silence. You look at most everyone's body language and you can see tension. There is an inner conflict going on inside of them, because a part of them wants to be social, but they don't because they don't want to stand out and be vulnerable, especially on a packed train with a bunch of people around and complete silence.

Then someone comes on to that same train and isn't afraid to talk and in fact doesn't care who is listening, so they let it all hang out, whether they're with a friend talking and laughing or on the phone and really into their conversation or whether they decide to chat up that cute girl sitting across from them . All eyes and ears are on that interaction and you can see people start to loosen up, relieved that there is something to distract them from the uneasy fear induced knot in their gut. You can see a softening in their eyes and a curiousity. They are interested in what is going on, relieved that the attention is now off of them and their fear of stepping out of what's 'socially acceptable' and the norm, many wishing they had the balls to be that open and care-free.

It is very often fear that makes people seem cold and uncaring. Really they are lonely and wish they could step out of their box and would if the opportunity presented itself, but not if they have to make the first move. It's just a social mask. Most people are nice and warm and good, just scared. That's what I think anyway.
 

Lorien

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People have turned their backs on God.
People got comfortable and lazy, and decided they didn't need God anymore and were going to screw and take advantage of everything they could. Not to mention people eat up everything they hear nowadays. I mean there is fluoride and chlorine in our drinking water for gee wize's sake!
 

PoopyTeaBags

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A bunch of cowards.


Look around............... Americans are a bunch of cowards.




I'm talking about standing up for whats right, in all different aspects of life business, personal life, politics ect.


cowards... and scared to lose what little they have left... and on top of that so busy working that they cant understand the big picture... also... very dumb... and as dumb i mean dumb and sheepy.... brainwashed... it rare i meet someone that thinks for themselfs....
 

DiscoBiscuit

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cowards... and scared to lose what little they have left...

Yeah, the largest income disparity in our history leaves little left to lose for the bottom feeders.

and on top of that so busy working that they cant understand the big picture...

Nah, they're just not libertarian.

also... very dumb... and as dumb i mean dumb and sheepy.... brainwashed...

Who are you getting your info from? Liddy? Alex? Savage?

it rare i meet someone that thinks for themselfs....

You mean somebody that thinks like you? That wouldn't be thinking for themselves.
 

Max Headroom

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i have often wondered why the hell the world is so fucked up. then i started looking for answers. after about 5 years i found the (to date) most reasonable and scientific explanation.

about ~5% of people are born with a genetic defect that makes them unable to feel empathy, guilt, love or any of those qualities that make us IMHO truly human. (a conscience!)

these individuals are called psychopaths.
i know the word immediately conjurs up images of hannibal lecter, charles manson, etc. but the truth is that the vast majority of psychopaths are NON-VIOLENT!
but they are extremely devastating to society at large nonetheless.

i strongly feel that knowledge about psychopathy is ESSENTIAL to understand the world. (and to effect change)

read 2-3 books on the subject - i recommend:

Robert Hare, PhD - Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us

Hare/Babiak - Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work

and most importantly,
Andrew Lobaczewski - Political Ponerology
_www.ponerology.com

then read a bit about the milgram experiment and combine the knowledge with that of psychopathy.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

you'll never look at the world the same.

this is the root of our problems. everything else are just symptoms.
 

PoopyTeaBags

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Yeah, the largest income disparity in our history leaves little left to lose for the bottom feeders.



Nah, they're just not libertarian.



Who are you getting your info from? Liddy? Alex? Savage?



You mean somebody that thinks like you? That wouldn't be thinking for themselves.



lol i get the information from looking around... seeing people reading people talking to people watching the news.. reading threads on here... but basically talk to anyone and get there views on things... Then ask them why... most of them draw blanks... or goto because it said this on the news... or i was brought up that way... all of that shit i brainwashed... your told from a young age to believe in thing but never told why....


thats how people become sheep...

and i dont mind when people have different view points then me... its refreshing... if they have a real reasoning for those views other then its programmed into them from a young age...


and why do get so upset at me posting this... when did i ever say people need to think like me... i just want people to have a thought in there head that aint programmed is all...
 

Juan Valdez

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wiseone, not sure if you or anyone else caught this but you started this thread saying how the world has changed for the worse and how people are being violent towards children etc, then you stated that you came out to be a good person because your grandparents beat you? i understand the difference between dicsipline and iggnorant hatred but they both fall into the same category as "violence"! on your end your childhood experiences with violence made you a better person, on the other (more sevre) end its an indication of social collapse. not tryin to be a punk i just thought that to be ironic ya know what i mean.

but i think i am on the same page with ya about social decline (phrase?) although im having a hard time deciphering since im in my mid 20"s has it been this bad forever and i just never noticed since i was out partying and never really cared or thought about the human race as i do now, or are my instincts right and things really are getting worse??? i guess i wont really know for sure til im 50 or 60.
 

Juan Valdez

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kinda talkin to myself here but just read gtdrd'''s post on the first page dont know how i missed that the first time. that about puts the perspective thing into perspective. i guess what concerns me the most about our present condition as people is how our network is set-up in that huge corporation exec's, and government leaders are starting a global economy. so say hollocaust happens with the new"global leader" or slavery or what we did to indians who do "WE" the people run to for help then? this whole too big to fail, bailout mentaility that is excepted just seems like were signing a sub-prime morgatge our grandchildren wont be able to pay.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Gold is a sellers market right now. If you want to buy low and sell high, now is the worst time in a decade.
 

Rowdy420

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Gold is not a happiness issue it's a security issue, your "paper" money isn't going to be worth shit! Well maybe to keep warm for a short time. You kill me headband one sec. your saying money can't buy you happiness and then the next post you are busting Anti's butt for saying to dream modestly. I'm sure I'll get some grief for calling you out, i can handle it my friend, lay your ever-present knowledge on me. I didn't get the nickname Rowdy for nothing, I like to wrastle; be it physical or wits!
 

trichrider

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items necessary for survival will be the only currency in the new world orders chaos.
gold will not be necessary, but might make you feel better about dying broke.
experience in many occupations will determine wealth according to their significance in the ordeal of survival.
common men and women with no knowledge of self-sufficeincy will revert to instinctual animalistic behaviour, multiplying the hardships of the prepared.
 
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