pufferfish
Member
so plug the grow room into just one 220 ? i wana go over what i need just in case i need it later....
Wanna Ask The Old Farts A Question?
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You can, see as I understand it a 220v line ican be broken down into 2 110V lines which essentially is what happens inside these timer/controllers.
I've been to one person's grow that uses something like it and it was plugged into where his dryer normally plugged into. It controlled 3 1000W lights, a portable AC, several fans and a dehumidifier.
It's possible under the right conditions but your success rate would probably be low. It'd be much better in the long run to establish the clones indoor in a controlled environment. Then transplant them to buckets, let them veg a week or two indoor to start spreading out roots, then transplant the buckets outside. The only problem there though is hardening the plants to the outdoor environment. So really you would ideally want to have the ability to gradually work them into it by exposing them for a period to the outdoors and then bringing them back in. This unfortunately requires a level of freedom few of us know.
In theory though, if you did have success with what you were suggesting the clone would already be hardened to the outdoors. The problem is, even in a controlled indoor environment, getting clones to root by just sticking some cuttings in a glass of water, is a crap shoot. Sometimes you get lucky more often you don't.
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greenmatter
short one for ya hemp ... does it help to bubble FF nutes ? does it raise or lower Ph?
I've never used Fox Farms yet although I did just buy some recently to try on my next crop in the fall. Fox Farms is organic and as such if you bubble them for long periods it'll encourage bacterial growth and gunk will form. By bubbling I am guessing you mean put an airstone in it and pump some air thru it? IF so all you're really doing there is oxygenating the water which is fine, roots need oxygen too but usually just the stirring required to mix nutes in is enough to get sufficient levels of oxygen in the mix.
Now what I can tell you about bubbling water is that I notice if I put an airstone in my water for a half hour the ph will rise from about 6.0 from the tap to 6.4 but that's just water with nothing in it.
How do old timers...... I posted this on the 150watt forum but got no answer so i'll ask here.
Does anyone know of a UK supplier of 150Watt hps light kits? Not a modified secureity light, i proper purpose built fixture..... I found one from the states... but its a bloody rip off!!!
http://www.shopmania.com/shopping~o...tronic-ballast-sunlight-supply~p-6601184.html
Any ideas fellas.......
Does anyone know of a UK supplier of 150Watt hps light kits? Not a modified secureity light, i proper purpose built fixture..... I found one from the states... but its a bloody rip off!!!
http://www.shopmania.com/shopping~o...tronic-ballast-sunlight-supply~p-6601184.html
Any ideas fellas.......
I know for many vert is newer so maybe this isnt the correct place to ask but...
does anyone know how to hang a vertical hps socket in a safe manner, I am new here so cannot pm anyone with experience. Please help, I see many threads where people suspend their bulbs in an unsafe manner and others that seem more secure using "junction boxes", "octogon boxes" or other methods. Thanks in advance to all the old farts and young contributers.
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does anyone know how to hang a vertical hps socket in a safe manner, I am new here so cannot pm anyone with experience. Please help, I see many threads where people suspend their bulbs in an unsafe manner and others that seem more secure using "junction boxes", "octogon boxes" or other methods. Thanks in advance to all the old farts and young contributers.
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Well what's pictured in the link looks more like an assembled ballast rather then a kit. I don't know where this company is but here is their page for 150W HPS ballast kits. At a much more reasonable price.
http://www.1000bulbs.com/category/150-watt-120-volt-high-pressure-sodium-ballasts/
Sorry, I've yet to try hanging my light vertically. I've thought about it though and what I would like to do if I tried it is to put it in a cool tube first. The cool tube is going to be attached to ducting and that ducting would have to hang from the ceiling so it would be the ducting supporting it. At least that's how I visualize it in my mind.
Panoramical
Member
Hey farts, can a plant seed when re-vegging and no pollen?
I had a four of the same plant that I got as clones. 3 I flowered, 1 I mothered.
The 3 I flowered produced a lovely product. I decided to try re-veg one. Leaving a load of straggly buds at the bottom of the plant I put it into the mother chamber where it lived on 18-6 for the last 4 weeks.
Overall, it responded badly (1 finger leaves and never looked happy), so I chopped it down at the weekend and decided I'd still have the buds that I left on the plant to smoke (jars are low).
So I smoke some and what do I find? Something I can only describe as an immature seed (I've actually found two now). I haven't seen one pollen sack and I've never had a male in any of my chambers, in fact I've never grown a male. I've only had two strains I got from clone.
This to me implies something has hermied, but where? I've not seen one pollen sack. Or can a female produce seeds without males and they'll therefore just be infertile seeds?...
....I dunno....which is why I'm here....
Please try to help me understand what's happened. Cheers
I had a four of the same plant that I got as clones. 3 I flowered, 1 I mothered.
The 3 I flowered produced a lovely product. I decided to try re-veg one. Leaving a load of straggly buds at the bottom of the plant I put it into the mother chamber where it lived on 18-6 for the last 4 weeks.
Overall, it responded badly (1 finger leaves and never looked happy), so I chopped it down at the weekend and decided I'd still have the buds that I left on the plant to smoke (jars are low).
So I smoke some and what do I find? Something I can only describe as an immature seed (I've actually found two now). I haven't seen one pollen sack and I've never had a male in any of my chambers, in fact I've never grown a male. I've only had two strains I got from clone.
This to me implies something has hermied, but where? I've not seen one pollen sack. Or can a female produce seeds without males and they'll therefore just be infertile seeds?...
....I dunno....which is why I'm here....
Please try to help me understand what's happened. Cheers
My guess is that somewhere in the process the plant did in fact hermie. Often times the offending male part of a hermie is hidden within a bud cluster and in this case might have even been in the part that you cut off before trying to reveg. I've noticed that when you let a plant go past it's prime harvest point, often times they will develope late flower hermie growth. I have often wondered if the act of growing sensimilla is stressful since the plant's only real objective is to become pollenated and reproduce. This would make sense evolutionary wise too as it would help to ensure that the plant continues on even when no males survive. As for the rest of what you describe it sounds like the classic response from a plant to revegging. To revert to veg from flower generally takes a good month maybe even a bit more. Had you waited a bit longer those one finger leaves would have become 3 then 5 then 7 finger and so on.
pufferfish
Member
lighting.....is it 50 watts per sq foot of air space or floor space
Well both in a way but when people talk about 50W per square foot they mean floor space or they're speaking 2 dimensionally. Now when I say both in a way I just mean it's going to be 50W at any point horizontally beneath the light not in terms of cubic feet and you should shoot for 50W for every cubic foot of space the plants use.
Really 50W per square foot is just a guideline for determining how much light you need for a given grow space to have maximum results. Above 50W is essentially too much and will lead to bleaching and light stress. Although it varies and more equatorial strains can probably handle more light whereas strains more from the north might actually need even a little less than 50W per square foot.
Protea
Member
I have tried to sprout 10 seeds.( sensi seeds Afgani) I gave them one night in a glass of tap water, and now they are three weeks in a moist paper towel. the paper towel shows signs of algea growt, and some of the seeds show sighns of mould. the seeds i bought maybe three years ago, and they have been inproperly stored in a to warm room.
is it safe to assume than non of them will sprout?
and if one or two of them sprout will the plant be weak?
if you would use such a plant as a mother, sould the weakness of the mum transfer to the clones?
is it safe to assume than non of them will sprout?
and if one or two of them sprout will the plant be weak?
if you would use such a plant as a mother, sould the weakness of the mum transfer to the clones?
Yeah those seeds are no good if they've been in a moist paper towel for 3 weeks. Generally speaking, with the paper towel method you should see a tap root emerge from the seed in 2-3 days. What I typically do is if seeds have gone a week in the paper towel and didn't germinate. I go ahead and plant them in a small pot (so I'm not wasting too much resources) and then put them under a light. If they sprout great, if not then oh well that's how it goes.
Now as for if one or two does sprout, well I wouldn't call them week if they sprout under all the conditions you described but I get what you're saying. I would think at first the plant might have some troubles and might not even make it, even though it sprouted. If it did though, given time and TLC it should return to a healthy state. As for clones, well whatever is going on with the mother will be going on with the clones since it's really the same plant. However, if a cutting survives to root and become an established clone the plant couldn't have been that weak to begin with in my opinion.
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guestaweed
As odd as it will sound I'd still like to get a serious answer or two.
Say you germinate a couple of seeds...
they go from seeds to seedlings ..
next you put them under a 400w Metal Halide with a 20/4 light schedule.
I'd like to switch them to 12/12 pretty soon .
The thing is I 'd prefer lights to be on during the night and off during day
I know it's very possible and all, but still....wouldn't you say that seed carries some kind of genetic information on how ...lets say ..life is ?( normal light schedule)
I mean ....even though one can trick it in order to have the senescence thing going on , still they have genetic info on the normal daylight hours.....wouldn't that affect their development overall?
Do you think is better to have the lights turned on during the day or .....?
Thanx
Say you germinate a couple of seeds...
they go from seeds to seedlings ..
next you put them under a 400w Metal Halide with a 20/4 light schedule.
I'd like to switch them to 12/12 pretty soon .
The thing is I 'd prefer lights to be on during the night and off during day
I know it's very possible and all, but still....wouldn't you say that seed carries some kind of genetic information on how ...lets say ..life is ?( normal light schedule)
I mean ....even though one can trick it in order to have the senescence thing going on , still they have genetic info on the normal daylight hours.....wouldn't that affect their development overall?
Do you think is better to have the lights turned on during the day or .....?
Thanx
No, plants do not have something like an internal clock that is in sync with the sun such that it can tell in a sealed grow room that it's actually daytime outside even though the room is dark. I usually do most of my growing during the winter. Where I grow most of the heat comes from the lights and so lights out can get very cold. As a result I usually run my lights such that they are on at night when it's coldest and their heat does the most good, and off during the day when it's not so cold outside and therefore the grow room doesn't get as cold. I've been doing it that way for years with no problems. In fact I switched because trying to follow nature was causing the plants and roots to get too cold which can affect growth and nutrient uptake.
Now what plants do have is a way of sensing the length of time the sun is set or the lights are out. When lights are out certain enzymes are created and when they reach a sufficient level (12 hours or more of darkness) the flowering response is triggered. Any length of dark period that is less then 12 hours 14/8, 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0 it doesn't matter because not enough of this enzyme has developed and so the plant remains in a vegetative state. It's because that is all the plants go by that allows us to be able to grow indoors in artifical environments.
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guestaweed
thanx
