Is reflective wall material needed in vertical?

[CyrilSneer]

I have a question for the vertical guys.
I only have a few days to set up my vertical, and I was wondering how beneficial panda or mylar on the walls will be in a this type of setup? I thought where the backs of the plants will be pretty much stripped, whats back there to be lit?
I plan on stacking a 1000 over a 400 barebulb in a 6x6 room with 8 plants in 3 gal hempys (If I got room) I hope the space will be manageable, I could prob do 61/2 x 61/2 if I had to. Probably wouldn't regret it.
Its not that I don't want to use panda, its just I'm going to be rushed this setup because I got a run finishing as I type in a 4x4 horizontal. I only have a couple of days to set up the new space.

What you all think? Can Sneer pull it off?

 

[Chomp]

Once the space fills up it's pretty much useless...so no you don't need it at all IMHO.

If you're going to veg in there for awhile you may see little benefit, but it's not as important as it is in a horizontal setup. If you're in a hurry then don't worry about it.

To be honest I would use the 400w on top of the 1000w and put the most power to the thickest part of the plants...the middle section should get the most light IMHO....that's why vert yields so much better

Chomp

 

[whodare]

good luck... when ur set up come back and share...

 

[mrktwiz]

shrug...I ran panda....seems to help a bit

 

[Aerohead]

I think it's most important to get the floor white, I noticed the room brightened up a bit after I put white on the floor.

As far as stacking the bulbs, I would keep the 1k on top because the base of the plants grow in towards the light more than the tops so the diameter is naturally much larger on top than the bottom. Well, at least with Indica doms...

 

[CyrilSneer]

chomp, whodare, mrktwiz, and Aero thanks for coming by guys. This space is going to be thrown together in a day or two at best (this weekend) Once I have a grow in this space I'll know if I need It a bit bigger, vented different or whatever. Once I get the dimensions right I'll panda the entire inside.
But ahhhh yea! thanks Aero.. the floor I'll def do that now

If I have heat issues I could always cycle the 400 or the 1000. Or both

 

[redspaghetti]

well the reflective isnt a need, its more of a want or not

i have some reflective material in my vert room , but once the plants start to fill out, you cant really see the reflective material anymore,,,, so i dont think you need em, byt they're cheap

white flloor is nice like aero said, it helps reflect the lights, same with ceilings

cheers,

 

[CyrilSneer]

As far as stacking the bulbs, I would keep the 1k on top because the base of the plants grow in towards the light more than the tops so the diameter is naturally much larger on top than the bottom. Well, at least with Indica doms...

Yea I was hoping to put the 1k on top. I like MGT's bucket trick with the bare bulb while he works on his plants. I wouldn't want my cheek stuck to the side of a 1000!!

I just realized Aero, you're in a 6x6 !! I can draw a lot from your thread.

 

[Aerohead]

Yes, 6X6 and the buckets are only taking up 5x5 so next run, I am putting the 600w on the floor and a 1k over it. This way I can slam the buckets against the walls and add 2 more ladies to make 8 plants dancing around 1600w.... Can't wait

 

[CyrilSneer]

well the reflective isnt a need, its more of a want or not

i have some reflective material in my vert room , but once the plants start to fill out, you cant really see the reflective material anymore,,,, so i dont think you need em, byt they're cheap

white flloor is nice like aero said, it helps reflect the lights, same with ceilings

cheers,

real nice of you to stop by Red
Yea once the room is done I'll have it all around. Its nice too when your 'grow buddies' stop by and shove their face in your blinding white room filled with nugs the size of your fist hanging like grapes!!!

dream on Sneer

 

[mrktwiz]

I think it's most important to get the floor white, I noticed the room brightened up a bit after I put white on the floor.

As far as stacking the bulbs, I would keep the 1k on top because the base of the plants grow in towards the light more than the tops so the diameter is naturally much larger on top than the bottom. Well, at least with Indica doms...

Aero - great minds must think alike.....I had a lot of panda left over so I stuck my excess on the floor also LOL .

I agree seemed to brighten up the room a bit.

 

[DHF]

Wow guys...Ever since I found out how well reflectix bounced lumens around my rooms and did away with hot spots , everything that wasn`t green was covered with it including ceilings.....for many many rooms and yrs....

Floors were painted with concrete paint mixed with bathroom mildewcidal ultra flat white that usedta make my krusty bucket rooms "Glow"......

Folks prolly don`t realize how much bare bulbs penetrate sideways canopies and bounce back and ALL around FTW with enough watts per sq ft , or there wouldn`t be anyone here tellin Cyril the shit`s not needed , when in fact it`s of paramount importance IME over the yrs......

Just something to implement next run if you`ve already got things setup Cyril , but trust me.......reflectix is worth it`s weight in gold , regardless of the other responses you`ve gotten.....No offense to all my vert Bro`s.......just.......

My dos centavos from all them yrs.......DHF...........

 

[whodare]

Wow guys...Ever since I found out how well reflectix bounced lumens around my rooms and did away with hot spots , everything that wasn`t green was covered with it including ceilings.....for many many rooms and yrs....

Floors were painted with concrete paint mixed with bathroom mildewcidal ultra flat white that usedta make my krusty bucket rooms "Glow"......

Folks prolly don`t realize how much bare bulbs penetrate sideways canopies and bounce back and ALL around FTW with enough watts per sq ft , or there wouldn`t be anyone here tellin Cyril the shit`s not needed , when in fact it`s of paramount importance IME over the yrs......

Just something to implement next run if you`ve already got things setup Cyril , but trust me.......reflectix is worth it`s weight in gold , regardless of the other responses you`ve gotten.....No offense to all my vert Bro`s.......just.......

My dos centavos from all them yrs.......DHF...........

i guess really it would depend on style because in a stadium the backs of the plants are essentially the bottom of a horizontal grow...

point being the walls will be covered with foliage and you wouldnt want to have any growth directed there anyways as you trim it off...

vert trees is another story though cause you will have walls and buckets exposed and that will all add up...

painting the floor and ceiling is always a must...



who.d

 

[DHF]

I totally understand your thinking Who , but........once you hack out all that flarfy shit on the backsides , as well as underneath in said stadium grow , the sideways lumens will bounce off that reflectix and right back at the plant`s foliage/budsites for increased lumen absorption/swellage FTW ......guaranteed.......

As it stands , your light sideways is being absorbed , instead of being reflected back onto the plants as it should be......It`s the little things that help increase the bottom line Bro......

Not tryin ta shove anything down anyone`s throat , but rather what I`ve witnessed firsthand from not using it , and then increased results and more dense nuggage from using it....

Peace......DHF.........

 

[CyrilSneer]

ok even though the room may be temporary or a test for size, I think I'll take a few hours and do floor,ceiling and walls. I guess it wouldn't be a fair test without it. A quick measure today shows me I can get 7x7' x 8 ' high <-- yea thats right
chances are good I'll like the space, I still don't know how you guys work the backs. I guess I'm about to find out. Thanks for stopping in guys, without feedback I'd prob not bothered this run, but I think I'll be glad I did. OH and I came across an old hoola hoop in the basement and I saw in the thread here somewhere, someone used it as their screening size. Its exactly 36" I think thats about where I should be with a 400 under a 1000. What do yas think? 36" donut hole?

 

[Marlo]

It's probably not necessary, but I use reflectix on the walls. Stays clean, and it's very cheap.

 

[DHF]

Then why would you use it Marlo........I mean if you`re on the fence about it`s effectiveness and not sure about it`s need.....because it`s cheap and easy ta clean ?.....

Shit`s not cheap when you`re covering walls , ceilings , containers , and everything that`s not green in each of many rooms I assure yas.....

Besides it`s insulating qualities , along with the pattern dispersing light everywhere in the room , I see need on top of need , where every lil bit helps toward squeezing every last gram out of a room that`s possible.....

But that`s not just my opinion and personal experience........it`s from many testimonies over the yrs with positive results from it`s use after having previously not using it.......

Peace...DHF...........

 

[bobblehead]

lol... Get em DHF. I can only fight so many battles... Guys, just cause you don't see the light bouncing off the reflectix as being bright compared to the light coming off the lamps, that doesn't mean it's not significant. I line my rooms in black plastic first, and I have to point the fluorescent work lamp in different directions to see inside. Then when it's lined with reflectix, that little cfl gets bounced all over the whole room. It makes a big difference imo.

 

[CyrilSneer]

just cause you don't see the light bouncing off the reflectix as being bright compared to the light coming off the lamps, that doesn't mean it's not significant. I line my rooms in black plastic first, and I have to point the fluorescent work lamp in different directions to see inside. Then when it's lined with reflectix, that little cfl gets bounced all over the whole room. It makes a big difference imo.

great observation.

 

[preciousdaisys]

glad i saw this post and glad to see panda doesn't really need anything extra to enhance reflective qualities. i too am having to setup a grow area quickly and got the panda plastic today to make my own grow tent. i've got some mylar from previous grows i'll put in there to see if it reflects better than the panda.