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Gold Tips, losing leaves fast - Mold, Virus, Deficency??

VapeIt

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At first I thought I had a problem with nute lockpout due to a high PH problem I had in the RW blocks a few weeks ago.
I thought I had a problem with PH runoff from the time I transplanted the clones into the 3x3 RW blocks.
I started another thread about the high PH runoff - @7. I flushed and flushed. 4 times now. 2 times with PH'd FloraKleen, 2 times with PH's RO water with Cal/Mag+.

I put them in the buckets for the last 10 days of veg. I was hopping to get the roots out of the RW and into the Hydroton. I have roots coming out the bottom of the buckets now. Nice and white and healthy looking.

The leaves being affected are Fan leaves from the mid section of the plant. Many times the leaf fingers elongate before the tips turn gold/bronze. Then they get dry and brittle.

After so many flushes, I doubt it is nute lockout.
I don't think it is nute burn - I was running 1.0-1.2EC in the 4-5th weeks of Veg.
I am in the first wek of Flower now - EC 1.2-1.4.
Flipped to 12/12 Monday 2-14.

It looks a little like a Mg defincency, so last week I foliar sprayed with tap water and Epsom Salt.
Yesterday I Foliar sprayed with Dark Energy.

Is this a virus or mold? I am losing 1-2 fan leaves every day or two. The damage is working its way up the plants.
This has happened on both my previous grows.

Does it look like off-gassing problems?


Thanks for any help.


Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? = Clones
2. How old are your plants? = 4 weeks from rooting
3. How tall are your plants? = 12"-18"
4. What type of hydro system are you using? = Ebb & Grow Buckets - clones started in 3x3x4 RW and palced in Hydroton buckets.
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using? = House and Garden
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution? = 5.8
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water? = @150/.3EC - using RO
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution? = @600-700/1.2-1.4EC
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? = @70-72F
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? = Slight rise
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check? = Slight rise
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? = Tried Magic Green, then Epsom Salt water.
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") = 600w HPS x6 = 3600w
14. How close are your lights to the plants? = 16"
15. What size is your grow space in square feet? = 150SqFt
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? = 70-80F - 40-60%
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? = none, inspect closely
18. How much experience do you have growing? = third try, second in the buckets
 

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Mitakoye Oyasin

this looks like it could be a phosphoros def to me.
U mentioned the flushing so much and also excesivly wet root zone can cause a plant to not absorb phosphorous as well. Phosphorus def is sometimes mistaken for a fungus disease and makes the leaves feel stiff and brittle and the leaf does die off like that. Thats what I think it is.
 

VapeIt

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What should I do to fix it fast?

I was going to Foliar with RO, Cal-Mag+ and Silica Blast tomorrow.
A friend thought it looked like Calcium or Potassium Def.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Mitakoye Oyasin

. My plants used to get like that until I started adding more of phosophorus mix. Any nutrient that has a high phosphours content will be good. I use Ginormous its Humbodt nutrients and Im not suggesting a brand just thats the one I use currently. Anything with like a high middle number in it will help, but the affected leaves wont get better, it will just stop the problem from getting worse Ginormous is 0-18-16. Thats just an example, foliar spray will deliver it to ur plants quicker, Id use a wetting agent, they should sell it at any garden supply shop I guess if u have grow shops? The cal and mag may still be a problem and not saying u shouldnt add it to ur nutrient solution, but it looks like it could be some mag def in there as well and so yea Id use that also, they always need cal and mag I have found.
 

VapeIt

New member
Thanks guys,
I foliar sprayed them with Cal-Mag+ and Silica Blast yesterday.

I will get the Ginormous for a foliar on Monday.

Dreamz,
Are you going to Foliar with that combo? Can you tell me how much H202 and Phosphorus you will use? or are you adding to the rez?

Thanks.
 
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Mitakoye Oyasin

i wasnt suggesting u get ginormous just its what I currently use. Any nutrient containing a high number, over 5, for the middle number should corect the deficency.
 
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Mitakoye Oyasin

check out the post under cannibis infermiry, the complete guide to sick plants, ph, and pest troubles. Its very informative with great pics of all problems and what causes it and what to do to fix it. Go to Grow It- Cannibis infirmary- The complete guide, hell what I said above the first time. It has helped me diagnose problems and correct them and never see them again cause in the future with the same strain u know what to expect, when to expect it , and what to do to keep it from ever happening!!!
 
ive lost my C99 mother .good thing was i had 5 clones 12inches tall,still in veg .thus taken from her ,before she took a crap on me. if i had to guess the folair spray of 1/4th tspoon of epsom did nothing . i would lean torward P ,what i did was i gave lucas formula with advanced and sprayed them with epsom on top and undersides of leaves. they still went down hill til death. i plucked clones and went on bout my business . im tryin to prepare for outdoor with multi strains . your pics are closest thing ive saw to my own c99 mom. sorry for hijack . im bummed . the other plants look like beauts with the AN regime from the label. u wouldnt be doing DWC buckets would u ?i use h202 at 2oz per 5 gallon in hydro. i have a thread in infarmery
 
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Mitakoye Oyasin

sorry u lost ur mother, that sucks but each clone u got is another mom in waiting
 

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