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hard water and nutrient lockout

Wav3F0rm

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Got a hold of the water distribution people today. Person in lab explained they harden their water to keep corrosion of pipes and what not at bay. Tested ph is at 8 and lab person said its set around 8.4. Well, next part is where i'm wondering if i have an issue or not. they do not have definitive numbers for ppm for magnesium and calcium content, but, she said all of the various elements used for hardening the water come out to around 120ppm(calcium, magnesium and other elements). However, the majority used to harden the water is calcium. From all that i can gather, it seems that above 200ppm issues arise. Lets say its 90ppm of calcium, this seems reasonable. Would that start to lockout magnesium? or other micro-nutrients?
 

MileHighGuy

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water distribution people? wtf... you are paying for delivered water that sucks....

Cancel the order and get an RO system.... or your own filter... something

8.4 is really high PH

Is there a major reason you can't just avoid this water?
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
lol, yeah, no, tap water. I couldn't think of a term to use, tap water people just sounded weird. RO isn't an option at the moment, that and with how small time this is, its not really worth being so spendy(although, i should probably drink the filtered water for my benefit). Ef, water treatment, thats what i should have used, water treatment people. Anyways, Reverse osmosis in the form of gallon jugs from stores is as far as that option goes right now.

PH of 8 seems to be fairly common of tap water, amongst all my searches around various forums and such.

So, anyone have any idea if the level i have will cause lockout issues?
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
lol, yeah, no, tap water. I couldn't think of a term to use, tap water people just sounded weird. RO isn't an option at the moment, that and with how small time this is, its not really worth being so spendy(although, i should probably drink the filtered water for my benefit). Ef, water treatment, thats what i should have used, water treatment people. Anyways, Reverse osmosis in the form of gallon jugs from stores is as far as that option goes right now.

PH of 8 seems to be fairly common of tap water, amongst all my searches around various forums and such.

So, anyone have any idea if the level i have will cause lockout issues?
 

MileHighGuy

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You should be okay... but all these little things will add up to a shitty yield.

Ph for soil and Ph for Hydro are different... also your nutrients will lower the PH when you mix.. so test the PH after you mix up a batch.

I would leave the tap water out to sit for awhile so it can "air" out... you may want to look into H202.

Also, they do make nutrients that are made for "hard water" check into it.

best advice for a cheap fix...

Get a Filter that screws into your faucet for cheap and use that water with some PH down.

PEACE and Good Luck
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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If your tap is 120ppm you've no worries. Mines at 250. Hardwater formula nutes are out there but are recommended for 350PPM and up.
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
hey thanks guys. Little more detail, i've been having what seems to be magnesium deficiency, all the details are there. so, looked around, and found to much calcium locked out magnesium. Tried moderately to correct the problem, but, still had issues. However, i have a few girls that are completely fine. I'm thinking at this point, if my water isn't causing issues, i have some hot spots in the soil, and, i also have a good hunch as to why.

I check PH after mixing in nutrients and having the PH a little bit higher is nice because like mentioned, many nutrients tend to drop PH, and what i use does also. Always leave water out for 24hrs to let chlorine evaporate.

Thanks again guys, this pretty much determined my issue.
 

maggot420

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I have hard well water that tests at 8.0ph straight from the tap. Try adding cal/mag or a tsp or epsom salt to a gallon of water with a ph of 6.5.

Also, what is your runoff ph? Try to keep it between 6 & 7.
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
I have hard well water that tests at 8.0ph straight from the tap. Try adding cal/mag or a tsp or epsom salt to a gallon of water with a ph of 6.5.

Also, what is your runoff ph? Try to keep it between 6 & 7.

PH runoff is fine, well. last time i checked it was 6.5 or close to there. I think i also need to back off the epsom salt dosage. i've been using 1/2 TBSP per gallon, but, i think i'm going to use 1/4 and see how that works out. Right now everything seems fine.

I'm nearly positive hotspots in my soil, caused by soil aggregates. After taking the soil apart in one of the pots, i didn't realize that i had small "clumps" in the soil. I'm sure that was messing up the PH in those areas.

thanks for all the help/info guys.
 
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