feminized seeds? your experiences

[mrwags]

Hey guys a word of advice here,the old timers like myself don't think to highly of messing with nature.

I know that Female Seeds NL knows hoe to do it but the fact still remains that they are doing something that would not normally take place naturally so it is considered bad.

You will find that they will fight you just like they will when you compare Hydro to Soil or Bottle Nutes compared to Organics.

You will find it to be a very hard sell and imho a waste of growing energy to even try to convert them. The best way like I just offered my good man JWP the opportunity for him or some one he knows to grow some out that way you take all the bullshit out of the equation.

You guys are gonna be seeing a lot of influence from me in the coming months regarding this very issue. Like I said earlier Female Seeds NL was the first and imo simply the best for consistent grows year after year after year and I have proven it year after year after year but then again those are just pictures and a whole lot of words so time will tell if I can work my magic this year.


Be Well
Mr.Wags

I have done this MANY times over the years and have NEVER had one person say I was wrong and some even going as far as saying it will now be included in his or her top 5 OF ALL TIME. This is the way to do it imho. No pictures No words just good bud. ENOUGH SAID.

 

[Dojo]

Well me being a new grower ill offer my experiences with female seeds...me being new i went the female seed route when i began and have yet to come across a hermie...instead when i poped some random bag seeds those turned hermie i was suprised.....

I made a mother out of a female seed and the clones were just as the feminized mother....same shit

Also Ive read up and pretty sure most female seed companys are using Corr. silver....which is very easy to make...so female seeds i have no problem with

 

[Baba Ku]

I think when we force a pistillate plant to produce stamen, we are only doing the very same thing it does in nature. All we are doing is coaxing what it already can do.
We already know that most female plants can and will produce stamen if they see stress, and they do it by doing the very same thing we are coaxing it to do. Nothing really unnatural about the process, other than we are making the plant react to stress that really isn't there. Our intervention would be the only non-natural thing...and I have always contended that anything in nature that interacts with other things in nature has to be natural. Are we not natural?

 

[zen_trikester]

I think when we force a pistillate plant to produce stamen, we are only doing the very same thing it does in nature. All we are doing is coaxing what it already can do.
We already know that most female plants can and will produce stamen if they see stress, and they do it by doing the very same thing we are coaxing it to do. Nothing really unnatural about the process, other than we are making the plant react to stress that really isn't there. Our intervention would be the only non-natural thing...and I have always contended that anything in nature that interacts with other things in nature has to be natural. Are we not natural?

I agree with this. Some breeders even go so far as to NOT use chemicals to inspire male flowers, but instead they just let the female flowers over ripen. This is natures "plan B" for this plant, because if it isn't pollinated by the time the flowers are ripe it will eventually start to try and pollinate itself. This process also has nothing to do with a plant being a hermi. That is a female trait and a gift from nature designed to preserve itself..

 

[zachrockbadenof]

I agree with this. Some breeders even go so far as to NOT use chemicals to inspire male flowers, but instead they just let the female flowers over ripen. This is natures "plan B" for this plant, because if it isn't pollinated by the time the flowers are ripe it will eventually start to try and pollinate itself. This process also has nothing to do with a plant being a hermi. That is a female trait and a gift from nature designed to preserve itself..

yep thats natures way of saying ..holy shit..winter is coming....better pollinate myself...

 

[Bottled Cat]

Is no one really allowed to throw out names of reliable feminized seed breeders? How about a silent little Private Message?

 

[Baba Ku]

There are lots of them providing us all with their wares.
Many breeders use the technique in their programs, but may not provide the consumer with any of that work.

IMO, the technique of forcing pistillate plants to produce stamen is old hat...and thanks to the research of a few, the knowledge is fine tuned down to an art now.
It is now common knowledge that selection of parental stock is the number one concern when it comes to providing feminized seed. No different than what is required to produce stock with regular male/female breeding.

Any breeder who has a reputation for providing quality seeds of regular offerings, should be trusted to also provide the same level of quality in their feminized offerings.
And it is funny how the free market works with these issues as well...if the breeder does indeed let his selection criteria get lax and provide a less than desirable product, it won't take a New Yawk second for the word to get out. They know this.

There is something that I think many people fail to recognize when breeders offer up feminized versions of some of their standard offerings...
I will make a few assumptions here, but bear with me...
Let's look at Serious Seeds lines. From what I understand the man is going to put out a BG fem line. Now, BG is an IBL...and as such his selection process will be fairly easy. I mean, he has to pick from some females that he has growing for parents...and the consistency of the line should make it pretty easy.
But when we consider a hybrid, say like the White Russian, he would have to also pick for parent plants...and it only serves to reason that he is going to have one of the best grows there are of the line, and he will be the one who has the ability to do the best selection for parents. So, we can feel confident that good stock was chosen.
And I think many times these donor females will be bred back to the original P1 mother of the line, which in essence would be a backcross and serve to possibly make it even more consistent than the original line.

In my estimation, whenever we see a line that is a fem spinoff of an accepted standard, we can pretty much count on the fem line being superior.


I think I need to finish this bowl.....

 

[mrwags]

Is no one really allowed to throw out names of reliable feminized seed breeders? How about a silent little Private Message?

You guys simply make me laugh out loud sometimes and I thank you for that and in return I'll link you to 6 or so years of grows.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=78


Thanks For The Chuckle. Mod Karma For You
Mr.Wags

 

[!!!]

My experience with feminized seeds has been excellent. No hermies no matter how badly I stressed the plants, and the quality of my bud was top notch. I feel that there is a smaller selection of phenotypes if you go with feminized seeds, but it could just be due to the fact that you usually get 5 fem seeds instead of 10 regular seeds, or just my luck. YMMV.

I don't buy feminized anymore because I want males for breeding projects down the road, and most of the good strains aren't avail feminized.

 

[CrOs420]

Well i've used sensi , white label and flying dutchman fem seeds , no hermi's at all.

Found this thread as am looking for a new strain to buy.
i like fem seeds as mentioned some peeps just want to plant 4 seeds , veg and flower , i've done regs before but i grow in ebbandflo and once the sprouts are in you cant move them around, 4 plants = 10 reg seeds usualy to 50/50 ratio applys, i plant 4 fems and am set.

I have read online that many Main Stream vondors miss name gentics, falsename or just basicly lie.

If you want some nice weed and basicly dont give a fuck about genetics fem seeds are good as are Main stream vendors, its not like there selling weed that dosent work LOL.


Peace.

 

[JWP]

JWP I would like to buy you a pack of the Teams Pure Indica. I would like you or someone you know to grow them out and then let me know what you think. I respect your opinion and trust me I would NEVER waste your time.

Thank you very much for the offer mrwags but i'm going to have to respectfully decline. Give the money you would have spent to charity or buy a loved one a present

I know, your all thinking "what sort of nut job is going to turn down a free pack of beans"

For me the best part of growing is letting the pollen fly in the room and watching the beans develop. There's nothing like the feeling of putting beans in the fridge knowing you have awesome genes for at least the next 10 years & the thrill of the F2 hunt. More often than not the best plants are found in the F2's.

Why else grow if but for these reasons. Sure buds are awesome but they are just a bonus.

mrwags, i would not knock back a pack of toms haze lol

 

[Baba Ku]

You can get all the enjoyment you mentioned from feminized seeds too, JWP.
Including the pollen flying and the seeds for a decade. Hell, even the F2 hunt.
Although you will have to expand your skill set to get to that point with females.