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BIOSYNTHESIS OF FLORAL SCENT...

As mentioned in the introduction, there have been few studies concerning the biochemical synthesis of floral scents, and our recent investigation into the biogenesis of floral scent production in our model organisms C. breweri and snapdragon represent, to our knowledge, the only examples to date in which isolation of enzymes and genes responsible for the formation of scent volatiles in the flower have been accomplished. These results are discussed below. Fortunately, too, many of the volatiles found in floral scents are also synthesized in vegetative tissues under specific conditions (mostly for defense purposes), and some information concerning their biosynthesis is also available. While it cannot be taken for granted that the synthesis of such compounds in vegetative tissue will in all cases be identical (i.e. same reactions, same enzymes) to their synthesis in flowers, and while there is currently no evidence that volatiles synthesized in vegetative tissues are transported into flowers, it is nevertheless instructive to review this information.

Terpenes, especially monoterpenes such as linalool, limonene, myrcene, and trans-beta -ocimene, but also some sesquiterpenes such as farnesene, nerolidol, and caryophyllene, are common constituents of floral scent (Fig. 1A). They are also often found in vegetative tissues, where they serve mostly as defense compounds. In work done mostly with vegetative tissue, but also with daffodil petals, it was found that monoterpenes are synthesized in the plastidic compartment. In this cellular compartment, isopentenyl pyrophosphate (IPP) is derived from the mevalonate-independent "Rohmer" pathway (Lichtenthaler et al., 1997). IPP can be isomerized to dimethylallyl diphosphate (DMAPP), and one molecule of IPP is condensed with one molecule of DMAPP in a reaction catalyzed by the enzyme geranyl pyrophosphate synthase (GPPS) to form GPP, the universal precursor of all the monoterpenes. Similar work with vegetative tissue has revealed that in the cytosol, IPP is derived from the mevalonic acid pathway (McCaskill and Croteau, 1998), and two molecules of IPP and one molecule of DMAPP are condensed in a reaction catalyzed by the enzyme farnesyl pyrophosphate synthase (FPPS) to form FPP, the universal precursor of all the sesquiterpenes (McGarvey and Croteau, 1995).

In the last few years, genes encoding the enzymes responsible for the synthesis of many monoterpenes and sesquiterpenes have been identified and characterized (Bohlmann et al., 1998) (Fig. 1A). However, to date, only the enzyme that catalyzes the formation of the acyclic monoterpene linalool has been characterized in floral tissue. C. breweri flowers emit copious amounts of S-linalool from the petals, stigma, and style (the stigma and style also emit large amounts of linalool oxides), and we were able to demonstrate that linalool was synthesized from GPP in a one-step reaction (Fig. 1A) catalyzed by a monomeric enzyme linalool synthase (LIS) (Pichersky et al., 1994). We were also able to purify LIS from C. breweri stigmata by employing several chromatographic techniques (Pichersky et al., 1995) and to obtain peptide sequences that allowed us to isolate a LIS cDNA clone from a C. breweri flower cDNA library (Dudareva et al., 1996).

The phenylpropanoids, which are derived from Phe, constitute a large class of secondary metabolites in plants. Many are intermediates in the synthesis of structural cell components (e.g. lignin), pigments (e.g. anthocyanins), and defense compounds. These are not usually volatile. However, several phenylpropanoids whose carboxyl group at C9 is reduced (to either the aldehyde, alcohol, or alkane/alkene) and/or which contain alkyl additions to the hydroxyl groups of the benzyl ring or to the carboxyl group (i.e. ethers and esters) are volatiles (Fig. 1B). Our work with C. breweri flowers has now resulted in the identification and characterization of three enzymes that catalyze the formation of floral volatiles from this group: (iso)methyleugenol, benzylacetate, and methylsalicylate. The enzymes are, respectively, S-adenosyl-L-Met:(iso) eugenol O-methyltransferase (IEMT), acetyl-CoA:benzylalcohol acethyltransferase (BEAT), and S-adenosyl-L-Met:salicylic acid carboxyl methyltransferase (SAMT) (Wang et al., 1997; Dudareva et al., 1998a, 1998b; Wang and Pichersky, 1998; Ross et al., 1999). In addition, we have identified and characterized the enzyme S-adenosyl-L-Met:benzoic acid carboxyl methyltransferase (BAMT), which catalyzes the formation of methylbenzoate in snapdragon flowers (Bushue et al., 1999). cDNAs encoding all of these enzymes have also been characterized.
Thursday, September 30th, 2010

There are numerous references in popular Cannabis literature which claim that Cannabis strains can smell like mango, melon, and even grapes. Well, it might not be their imagination. The odor of cannabis comes from over 120 terpenes (a.k.a. terpenoids fragrance molecules) that are made by the plant(1).
maybe this can help you all out

Do you know what synthesis means? (Got tired of bolding text about half way in.) It means these plants manufacture terpinoids. You're trying to say that dog doo, cat piss and diesel fumes are absorbed and make these fragrances in pot plants. What you cite hasn't got a thing to do with what you assume.

:yeahthats:dunno::dunno:
hey disco could you clarify the subtle difference between a floater and a whopper? we should get some good solid info on the page one way or another.

Well, basically... a floater floats. You know, a plausible assumption, hopefully based on something scientific. Doesn't matter if whoppers float or not, they don't flush and just hang around to stink. :biglaugh:
 
of course they manufacture there own terpenoids,they also absob terpenoids as well.this little bit of research i posted on here is 16 yrs old,so like i said this anit nothing new,you need to quit while your ahead,i could blow this whole post up with all kinds of research and data that will absolutely prove the validity of what im saying,but you chumps have disrespected me with your so called cannabis genius,but instead of being negative idiots why don't you actually research what ive been telling you and actually learn more about my passion,its simple ill give you a direction and thats it,The bud of the cannabis plant is actually a flower,flowers have been used to make scents since forever,do a specific study on how you can enhance the scents of your flowers and you will be on your way to enlightenment,other than that don't do anything at all keep doing what you are doing,man i don't give a shit but you still cant and wont be able to disprove what i have stated here,get whatever kind of big guns that you can,hell call in some Harvard professors,who ever i don't care your wrong and im right
 
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greenmatter

Do you know what synthesis means? (Got tired of bolding text about half way in.) It means these plants manufacture terpinoids. You're trying to say that dog doo, cat piss and diesel fumes are absorbed and make these fragrances in pot plants. What you cite hasn't got a thing to do with what you assume.



Well, basically... a floater floats. You know, a plausible assumption, hopefully based on something scientific. Doesn't matter if whoppers float or not, they don't flush and just hang around to stink. :biglaugh:

why thank you sir. that was a very clear and lucid answer. IMHO you/we only need to keep flushing and the whoppers also go away. i can't back that up with any evidence as some whoppers are more tenacious than others. i believe this may stem from the "klingon" factors in their genetic make-up. what say you kind sir?:dance013:
 

DiscoBiscuit

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of course they manufacture there own terpenoids,

correct

they also absob terpenoids as well.
That's what I invited you to cite. Didn't do it, did ya?

this little bit of research i posted on here is 16 yrs old,so like i said this anit nothing new
How about anything that backs up diesel weed and it's smell being derived from absorbing diesel fumes?

you need to quit while your ahead
Maybe you'll quit while you're behind?

i could blow this whole post up with all kinds of research and data that will absolutely prove the validity of what im saying
But it's giving you fits with the pH? I get the feeling your pH is much lower than the bottled nutes taking it to 5.5. You're diving your pH with fruit for a fruity smelling weed?

but you chumps have disrespected me with your so called cannabis genius,but instead of being negative idiots why don't you actually research what ive been telling you and actually learn more about my passion
Tell ya what, when you're interested in your passion enough to understand how organic compounds break down into individual elements, you'll understand why your plant isn't absorbing molasses, only individual elements contained in molasses.

its simple ill give you a direction and thats it,The bud of the cannabis plant is actually a flower,flowers have been used to make scents since forever
Here's something simple, oranges don't get something orangy poured on em to smell like oranges. They get npk etc... that's it. The rest is left up to the orange plant. Same thing with weed.

do a specific study on how you can enhance the scents of your flowers and you will be on your way to enlightenment
If we studied everything that gets floated in here, we wouldn't have time to read the legit shit.

other than that don't do anything at all keep doing what you are doing,man i don't give a shit but you still cant and wont be able to disprove what i have stated here,get whatever kind of big guns that you can,hell call in some Harvard professors,who ever i don't care your wrong and im right
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Scent On Demand: Scientists Genetically Enhance Scent Of Flowers

ScienceDaily (Oct. 8, 2008) — A team of scientists at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has found a way to genetically enhance the scent of flowers and implant a scent in those that don't have one.
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Plants & Animals

* Botany
* Agriculture and Food
* Genetically Modified

Earth & Climate

* Grassland

Reference

* Flower
* Deciduous
* Plant sexuality
* Cinnamon

Smell plays an important role in our lives: It influences the way in which we choose fruit and vegetables, perfume, and even a partner. And yet, smell is not just what we smell with our noses, it's also what we taste, explains Prof. Alexander Vainstein, who is heading the team at the Robert H. Smith Faculty of Agriculture, Food and Environment. "Aroma is of major importance for defining the taste of food."

Scent in flowers and plants is used to attract pollinating insects like bees and beetles that pass on the pollen and help in the reproduction and creation of fruit. The intensity of the scent that the flower emanates is influenced by the time of day, depending on weather, age of the flower and the species.

In research that was published recently in the Plant Biotechnology Journal, Prof. Vainstein and his research assistant Michal Moyal Ben-Tzvi succeeded, together with other researchers, to find a way of enhancing the scent of a flower by ten-fold and cause it to emit a scent during day and night - irrespective of the natural rhythm of scent production .

The development, which has been patented by Yissum, the Hebrew University's technology transfer company, is intended to be applied to other agricultural produce.

Utilizing natural components will increase and change not only the smell of fruit and vegetables, but also influence the commercial appeal of a wide array of produce.

The flower industry will also be interested in this development, explains Prof. Vainstein. "Many flowers lost their scent over many years of breeding. Recent developments will help to create flowers with increased scent as well as producing new scent components in the flowers."

Over a third of participants in Flowers and Plants Association surveys stated that scent influenced their choice of flower purchase. Floral scents are also one of the most popular smells and the perfume industry expends a great deal of effort trying to reproduce the authentic fragrance of fresh flowers.

Prof. Vainstein's lab is the only one in the world that researches both the scent and color of flowers. His greenhouse at the Hebrew University's Rehovot campus is full of genetically engineered flowers whose architecture, color and scent the researchers are trying to alter.
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greenmatter

Scent On Demand: Scientists Genetically Enhance Scent Of Flowers

ScienceDaily (Oct. 8, 2008) — A team of scientists at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has found a way to genetically enhance the scent of flowers and implant a scent in those that don't have one.
See Also:
Plants & Animals

* Botany
* Agriculture and Food
* Genetically Modified

Earth & Climate

* Grassland

Reference

* Flower
* Deciduous
* Plant sexuality
* Cinnamon

Smell plays an important role in our lives: It influences the way in which we choose fruit and vegetables, perfume, and even a partner. And yet, smell is not just what we smell with our noses, it's also what we taste, explains Prof. Alexander Vainstein, who is heading the team at the Robert H. Smith Faculty of Agriculture, Food and Environment. "Aroma is of major importance for defining the taste of food."

Scent in flowers and plants is used to attract pollinating insects like bees and beetles that pass on the pollen and help in the reproduction and creation of fruit. The intensity of the scent that the flower emanates is influenced by the time of day, depending on weather, age of the flower and the species.

In research that was published recently in the Plant Biotechnology Journal, Prof. Vainstein and his research assistant Michal Moyal Ben-Tzvi succeeded, together with other researchers, to find a way of enhancing the scent of a flower by ten-fold and cause it to emit a scent during day and night - irrespective of the natural rhythm of scent production .

The development, which has been patented by Yissum, the Hebrew University's technology transfer company, is intended to be applied to other agricultural produce.

Utilizing natural components will increase and change not only the smell of fruit and vegetables, but also influence the commercial appeal of a wide array of produce.

The flower industry will also be interested in this development, explains Prof. Vainstein. "Many flowers lost their scent over many years of breeding. Recent developments will help to create flowers with increased scent as well as producing new scent components in the flowers."

Over a third of participants in Flowers and Plants Association surveys stated that scent influenced their choice of flower purchase. Floral scents are also one of the most popular smells and the perfume industry expends a great deal of effort trying to reproduce the authentic fragrance of fresh flowers.

Prof. Vainstein's lab is the only one in the world that researches both the scent and color of flowers. His greenhouse at the Hebrew University's Rehovot campus is full of genetically engineered flowers whose architecture, color and scent the researchers are trying to alter.
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i'm trying to keep disco from getting a noes bleed here GS. the first sentence on the page says "genetically enhance". what does that have to do with fruit juice or cat piss?
 
Professor Alexander Vainstein is proud of his greenhouses.

Located at the Hebrew University's Robert H. Smith Institute of Plant Sciences and Genetics in Agriculture in Rehovot, these greenhouses offer visitors both a delight to the senses and a trip to a futuristic world, where flowers emerge in different colors, with different scents and a whole new genetic makeup designed to enhance and improve the flower stock.

"You'll see types of flowers in our greenhouses that do not exist anywhere else in the world," said Vainstein, head of the institute. "People are stunned at what we are doing here. We have petunias, which traditionally don't have a smell, giving off such a strong perfume that it overpowers you as you walk through the greenhouse doors."

The greenhouses are only a small part of Vainstein's work, however. Back in the lab, he and other researchers on the agricultural, food and environmental quality sciences faculty have discovered how to insert the scent of flowers into different foods, how to intensify the smell of perfumes and creams and how to create a natural scent with nothing more than a petri dish.

The developments, which use the same genetic engineering techniques developed in the human genome project to enhance the shape, color and smell of flowers, have generated a great deal of interest from the chemical, food and flower industries, which are not only following developments but often actively funding the work.

Vainstein, a molecular biologist, began studying the molecular mechanism of scent compounds in flowers out of curiosity.

"Smell is a very volatile thing. he said. "Flowers smell differently at different times of the day, it depends if it's hot or cold, or whether the flower is young and old. Some plants give off strong scents, while others you have to crush before you can smell them."

Once the team isolated and deciphered the composition of genes and proteins operating in the petals of roses and carnations, they began to genetically engineer the plants to alter scent production. Roses, for example, give off a strong and lovely scent and have major volatile scent compounds, such as germacrene D. Vainstein took the gene responsible for this compound in roses and inserted it into different plant species, such as petunias and carnations.

"It's not that the petunias now smell of roses, but they do give off a much stronger scent than before," Vainstein said.

In another successful project, the researchers took a gene from a small aromatic plant that grows in California and introduced it to the carnation plant, which now produces the same aromatic compound as the California plant.

They've also discovered how to mute scent in flowers, such as gypsophlia (baby's breath) -- a flower often favored by florists in bouquets -- that have an unpleasant odor.

The possibilities for the plant breeding industry are exciting. The flower industry was worth $20.8 billion in 2006 in the United States alone, and more than $100 billion worldwide. Many flowers sold by florists today have lost their smell.

Vainstein's research promises to be able to not only regenerate the smell in flowers like roses but also to create entirely new scents in other flowers.

What interests the chemical and food industries, however, is that the researchers have also discovered a way to introduce these volatile scent compounds into other organisms, such as yeast -- which has many similarities to plants -- to create a bioreactor to product these natural compounds.

"In Bulgaria, the economy is built heavily on rose oil, which they produce from roses grown over large areas, but it's a very long and complicated process to create this oil," Vainstein said. "We can produce the same scent compounds using a yeast bioreactor, and we do it in a petri dish."

"We use a tiny amount of space," he continued. "A few shelves can hold row after row of petri dishes, and there is no disease, no worries about weather or pests and a drastic reduction in manpower costs. The value for the perfume industry is immense."

Using yeast bioreactors, flower scent compounds can also be introduced to foods, such as bread, or added to wine as it is prepared. Rose-flavored bread, perhaps, or a white wine with a hint of carnation could be possible.

Today food manufacturers often resort to using synthetic scent compounds in foods, but Vainstein's work, which has been patented, will enable them to create and use natural compounds.

"The food industry is very interested in the potential of this," Vainstein said. "Smell is not only what you smell with your nose but also what you taste. Through eating foods you also smell them. The aroma comes from inside your mouth to your nose passage."

Vainstein is working with a number of international companies based in the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel and has carried out commercial trials. He declines to give details, however, because of the competitive nature of the industries he works with.

"There are a number of experiments and pilot trials going on, and we are talking to many companies about many different possibilities, but much of this work is unpublished, and we are not allowed to talk about it," he stressed, adding that contracts are likely in the future.

Aside from scent, Vainstein's team of 14 professors and students is also making progress in color enhancement, introducing new colors to flowers that were traditionally white. The university has already developed a number of strains of carnations in colors such as cream and pale green, and work is progressing on color enhancement of roses and gypsophila.

These transgenic flowers are being developed in only three or four locations around the world, and the Hebrew University is the only research lab in the world that focuses on both scent and color. "Most la
 
you know you can check out advanced nuets bloom booster data and get a lot of good info as a matter of fact i think its right on the lable
 
In future, it will be possible to create "designer flowers" to meet specific requests -- to match the color of one's clothes, eyes or furniture, for example, or with a specific smell.

The researchers are also working on developing plants with improved disease resistance and plants that make more roots, creating more flowers as a result. "There are various directions of research, but all of them are concerned with molecular breeding," he said.

Israel is one of the biggest flower-growing nations in the world, alongside The Netherlands, Colombia and Kenya. Hebrew University's agricultural, food and environmental quality sciences faculty has played a central role in the development of flower growing in Israel over the years. The faculty has been a partner in the development of some 40 percent of the flowers now found in the market.

Vainstein's team is now exploring new avenues of research.

"In Israel we have a lot of seawater; we want to see if we can use it to grow things, not necessarily flowers," Vainstein said. "It's just like with scent. We start researching something just because we are curious. If we later see applications for the knowledge, then that's great."

you missed the part where i was talking about amino acids lol, i suppose i cant do that either.
 
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greenmatter

if we were growing snapdragons this would be great. is big mike pissing in AN bottles now? the point you are trying to make (or at least the one i'm looking at) is bouncing like a lemming on meth. this info does not apply.
 
its simple by putting strawberry juice in you solution,you are causing the plant to absorb the strawberriesterpenoid,since it is already made the plant asimulates it very fast,it takes it up through the waterand enhances the smell of your weed,this is called genetic modification and the cool thing about it is that its organic,its kind of like the borg in your star trek movies.lol.
 
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
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INTRODUCTION
FLORAL SCENTS ARE IMPORTANT...
DETERMINATION OF FLORAL SCENT...
LOCATION OF EMISSION OF...
TEMPORAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL...
BIOSYNTHESIS OF FLORAL SCENT...
REGULATION OF SCENT...
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
FUTURE PROSPECTS
LITERATURE CITED

An intriguing observation concerning floral scent is how variable this trait is. In many taxa, there are scented species that are closely related to non-scented ones, leading to the inescapable conclusion that the ability to produce and emit floral scent is an easily acquired, and easily lost, trait (Dudareva et al., 1996). Moreover, considering that floral scent is a complex mixture of chemicals, and practically no two closely related species emit identical mixtures of volatiles, it is clear that the ability to produce a specific floral scent volatile is an easily evolved trait. What is the basis for these evolutionary change

whats this tell your brain
 

DiscoBiscuit

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why thank you sir. that was a very clear and lucid answer. IMHO you/we only need to keep flushing and the whoppers also go away.

Sometimes it takes a plunger.

i can't back that up with any evidence as some whoppers are more tenacious than others. i believe this may stem from the "klingon" factors in their genetic make-up. what say you kind sir?:dance013:

Klingon... is that like a dingleberry?:mooning:
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Veteran
Originally Posted by ganjah shaman View Post
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
TOP
INTRODUCTION
FLORAL SCENTS ARE IMPORTANT...
DETERMINATION OF FLORAL SCENT...
LOCATION OF EMISSION OF...
TEMPORAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL...
BIOSYNTHESIS OF FLORAL SCENT...
REGULATION OF SCENT...
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
FUTURE PROSPECTS
LITERATURE CITED

An intriguing observation concerning floral scent is how variable this trait is. In many taxa, there are scented species that are closely related to non-scented ones, leading to the inescapable conclusion that the ability to produce and emit floral scent is an easily acquired, and easily lost, trait (Dudareva et al., 1996). Moreover, considering that floral scent is a complex mixture of chemicals, and practically no two closely related species emit identical mixtures of volatiles, it is clear that the ability to produce a specific floral scent volatile is an easily evolved trait. What is the basis for these evolutionary change
gangah flimflam said:
whats this tell your brain

It tells me you're ignoring the fact that your citations speak of manufacturing processes taking place in the plant, not absorption of your so-called terpines of dog poo, cat piss and diesel fumes.

In other words, you FAIL to back your claim.
 
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greenmatter

o.k. GS please explain to me why my blueberry smells like blueberries. the better i get at it the more it does, but i have never given it any fruits. also please explain why no matter what i do my LSD does not smell like a colorless, odorless liquid. am i not giving it good shit?
 
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greenmatter

Sometimes it takes a plunger.



Klingon... is that like a dingleberry?:mooning:

very close. i think that a dingleberry has more hair and less personality. as a side note i read somewhere that the dingleberries usually score much higher on the S.A.T. than the klingons. i believe reading comprehension was a major factor in the testing.:tiphat:
 
dog poo high in n,cat piss high in n,diesel exhaust,carbon emissions carrying terpenoids being absorbed through the leaf,its all being absorbed by the plant it all smells.
 
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greenmatter

dog poo high in n,cat piss high in n,diesel exhaust,carbon emissions carrying terpenoids being absorbed through the leaf,its all being absorbed by the plant it all smells.

c'mon man my wife is trying to sleep and it is not easy with me laughing my ass off. i am to old for this shit
 
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