Justifying growing in a huge tent?

[thingshappening]

My buddy is starting his first grow as we speak. I go over to check it out, and the dude is growing in this: http://www.greners.com/grow-tents/secret-jardin/secret-jardin-dark-room-grow-tent-dr300.html


It was recommended to him by a mutual friend who knows what he's talking about.

I'll play the idiot here, it isn't hard for me: why? Is there something I'm missing? 800 bucks? Could you not build a sealed grow room for literally a third of that cost?

I understand the smaller guys going to tents for simplicity. But who drops 800 bucks on a huge tent?

If you did it, please explain if you care to. Not hating, genuinely curious to see if there is something I'm missing here..

 

[zor]

someone's who handy could throw up a large tent with poly much cheaper. But with a large grow tent like that you are paying for the quick setup/teardown time, reusability , and quality of materials. A room that size with 2x4's and drywall would be much cheaper. But that is much harder to tear down in a pinch as well.

 

[thingshappening]

someone's who handy could throw up a large tent with poly much cheaper. But with a large grow tent like that you are paying for the quick setup/teardown time, reusability , and quality of materials. A room that size with 2x4's and drywall would be much cheaper. But that is much harder to tear down in a pinch as well.

Reusability, ahhh. That's a big one I suppose, especially for renters.

Good points. Glad I made this thread. I still think it's not worth it, but it seems more reasonable now.

 

[qbert]

I'll play the idiot here, it isn't hard for me: why? Is there something I'm missing? 800 bucks? Could you not build a sealed grow room for literally a third of that cost?

I think you are underestimating the DIY route.

$200? That ain't jack. Blow through twice that in a single trip to Home Depot. Sure, you'll get your 2x4's for under that, but throw in a full roll of thick b/w poly and you've already blown your 1/3 of $800.

My experience has almost always been that DIY ends up costing more than one expects.

And, of course, on top of raw cost, add time.

I don't know about anyone else, but for one my day job pays pretty well. I consider 1 hour of my off work time worth $100, bare minimum.

Not only that, but I just don't have that much free time. So in the end it is much more effective for me to buy time when I can, almost irregardless of the cost.

Shit, I tried to start the DIY route, and I'm a fairly handy fellow. But the reality of the whole situation was that I spent a crap load of money buying shit I didn't really need and lost so much time that by the time I just went and got a damn tent I could've had 3 harvests already if I'd have just started with the tent from day 1.

And a tent is just downright simple. Reflectivity's there, supports to hang a filter, air ports are a cinch .. literally. I think they make as much sense for 10'x10' as they do for 4'x'4' or 2'x2'.

That's my opinion.

 

[dagnabit]

portability
reuseability
resale value
ease of use
reliability
purpose built..

 

[CannabisDog]

My tent took a couple of hours out of the box to set up, well worth it if you ask me. Fits my two DWC/NFT tubs perfectly. If I need to shut it down fast, would take only about 30 minutes. Don't skimp on the air flow, if you don't have enough you will have too high humidity in the tent and wet sides with drips.

 

[scurred]

he actually spent 800 on that? WOW

there are so many other things i'd rather spend 800 on, sorry but thats ridiculous.

and yeah you could build one for a lot less... you're going to need a room dedicated to that fuckin tent anyways... 4+ lights, why do you even need a tent? all you need is a room

 

[scurred]

I think you are underestimating the DIY route.

$200? That ain't jack. Blow through twice that in a single trip to Home Depot. Sure, you'll get your 2x4's for under that, but throw in a full roll of thick b/w poly and you've already blown your 1/3 of $800.

My experience has almost always been that DIY ends up costing more than one expects.

And, of course, on top of raw cost, add time.

I don't know about anyone else, but for one my day job pays pretty well. I consider 1 hour of my off work time worth $100, bare minimum.

Not only that, but I just don't have that much free time. So in the end it is much more effective for me to buy time when I can, almost irregardless of the cost.

Shit, I tried to start the DIY route, and I'm a fairly handy fellow. But the reality of the whole situation was that I spent a crap load of money buying shit I didn't really need and lost so much time that by the time I just went and got a damn tent I could've had 3 harvests already if I'd have just started with the tent from day 1.

And a tent is just downright simple. Reflectivity's there, supports to hang a filter, air ports are a cinch .. literally. I think they make as much sense for 10'x10' as they do for 4'x'4' or 2'x2'.

That's my opinion.

Yeah, DIY is not cheap. But it isn't $800. You could build a similar enclosure for under $400 easily

 

[303hydro]

Tents rock, quick tear down is key. I even know guys who use these on a commercial scale to help micro manage the desired enviorment of each particular strain. They also make cleaning your grow area easier IMO-

 

[Iron_Lion]

I dont have a tent that large but I love the one I have and plan to get a bigger one for like 1600k lighting. A few things I like about tents is their tear down ability, and their ease to put back together. Also I like the little bit of extra security of having my grow in a big plastic bag. Plus they contain spills.

I thought about making one out of 2x4's and plastic but that seems like it would be a bitch to tear down in a hurry, its worth the extra cost not to have to deal with that shit.

800$ is a bit pricey, HTG has decent shit for a good price.

 

[dagnabit]

he actually spent 800 on that? WOW

there are so many other things i'd rather spend 800 on, sorry but thats ridiculous.

and yeah you could build one for a lot less... you're going to need a room dedicated to that fuckin tent anyways... 4+ lights, why do you even need a tent? all you need is a room

not that one (i perfer homebox products)but yes ive spent much more than 800 on tents over the years. the ability to control the environment for each tent allows me to adjust the temps and humidity in such a way as to recreate fall(and all the colors that come with it) in a way mylaring a room just dont do..
also i can put a smaller tent in the same room and veg right there..
of course the tent unlike the room has never been lived in..
never found carpet in a tent.
but hey save those pennys!!!!

 

[scurred]

not that one (i perfer homebox products)but yes ive spent much more than 800 on tents over the years. the ability to control the environment for each tent allows me to adjust the temps and humidity in such a way as to recreate fall(and all the colors that come with it) in a way mylaring a room just dont do..
also i can put a smaller tent in the same room and veg right there..
of course the tent unlike the room has never been lived in..
never found carpet in a tent.
but hey save those pennys!!!!

so a flower tent and a veg tent in the same room? the tent i used wouldnt let that work, had light leaks all over it.

wanna know whats even easier and quicker than tearing down a tent? NOT HAVING A TENT!

if you just have a room straight up you can tear that down much easier and faster than u could if u had a tent. think about it, a tent will only add to the time it takes to tear down. you'll still have the same equipment in the room vs tent, the only difference is the tent so obviously adding a tent will only complicate things?

especially if your running multiple lights, i really dont see the benefit of a tent

 

[guest8905]

tents are good for who needs them, if you rent, want to run a few light cycles in one room, many more reasons
i like and love tents, i did the dyi and it was a bitc% to take down and cost almost as much as a tent


tents are designed to grow in, simple enough, if you dont want one dont get one

StickKy

 

[zor]

a tent will only add to the time it takes to tear down.

It depends on the situation. In an unfinished basement, you often have no choice but to construct some kind of 'grow box'.

 

[dagnabit]

so a flower tent and a veg tent in the same room? the tent i used wouldnt let that work, had light leaks all over it.

wanna know whats even easier and quicker than tearing down a tent? NOT HAVING A TENT!

if you just have a room straight up you can tear that down much easier and faster than u could if u had a tent. think about it, a tent will only add to the time it takes to tear down. you'll still have the same equipment in the room vs tent, the only difference is the tent so obviously adding a tent will only complicate things?

especially if your running multiple lights, i really dont see the benefit of a tent

if you set up a garbage room..
to make it as good as the tent you would need to tear out carpet, cover any windows,cut holes for ventalation,drill holes for hanging lights,put eye bolts in walls for trellising,hang mylar over whole room,build separate veg area,cut holes for wiring to ballast and light proof the holes and doors. and still your room would not be safe from flood
that would all have to be repaired to original.
i can break down and pack up my tents in a few minutes.
how long to replace carpet,repair holes in walls and repaint?
we wont go into water damage

 

[Rysam]

Like everything, tents have their place. some conditions dictate their use, some conditions a panda DIY box is sufficient, sometimes a whole room is needed.

what about when homeboy had the 10X20 tent in a warehouse a few mos. ago.... That worked for his situation at the time when there were other options.


Improvise, Adapt, Overcome..

I rock an insulated closet in my garage for flower and a fridge for veg.

 

[303hydro]

wanna know whats even easier and quicker than tearing down a tent? NOT HAVING A TENT!

if you just have a room straight up you can tear that down much easier and faster than u could if u had a tent. think about it, a tent will only add to the time it takes to tear down. you'll still have the same equipment in the room vs tent, the only difference is the tent so obviously adding a tent will only complicate things?

especially if your running multiple lights, i really dont see the benefit of a tent

I disagree. The tent is tore down and your area is then clean with no evidence of the grow.

With no tent you would have to secure those multiple lights to the ceiling somehow, and ultimately drywall to completely cover the evidence after teardown. Way way more time then when they are hanging on tent frame, and with a tent you have no evidence.

Reflective material on walls? Once again, depending on how you secure it to the walls it will take additional time to be removed especially if you want to leave no evidence.

Cleaning. Floors, Walls, Ceiling.When you tear down the tent your done, the house is clean of the grow, done, period. No evidence.


Unless I am missing something, most scenarios that you would want to tear down a grow as fast as possible would be a situation where you did not want to leave any evidence.

It totally depends on your personal situation, but I rock a tent.

 

[zenoonez]

So tents aren't air tight obviously, how the heck do you guys control your CO2 ppms? You just control the larger room in which the tent is located? Use mini-splits to control temp of surrounding room?

 

[303hydro]

No way, I'm a hack and just hook that shit up to the Air-3 D/N lol

 

[CannabisDog]

Mines pretty tight, I seal with duck tape. I like it because it's in a cold loft and I can just keep the tents warm with small electric heaters. Great for breeding different strains. You can control different strains in each tent, pick breeding stock.