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Pandor181

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first one



second



they were started from seed
24hrs under flourescent
fed GH flora with superthrive and liquid karma
in a coco/peat/pearlite/vermiculite mix
 
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sallyforthDeleted member 75382

First your best giving em some dark period....best go with 20/4, this will help the roots grow better and increase the growth.

Also lay off the nutrients by about half of what your feeding, cause they look burnt by too much feeding. Flush them out first with water at ph7. Then give them a couple of days before feeding.

As always see what others say.
 
look to be over water'd. let the soil almost completely dry for the next few days. What are your temps? for now id introduce a dark period, start small even 2 hours a day, just so u dont trigger flowering, but the dark period may reduce over all stress along with letting them dry out. if nothing improves hit them lightly with a fert high in humic acid, such as b1 booster, flouralishious plus or somthing similar.
 

the gnome

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agreed, looks alot like nute burn from over feeding.
how often and how much are you feeding em?
over watering might be a factor also,
make sure you have good drainage and are giving em a wet-n-dry cycle.
 

Pandor181

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That's what really drives me crazy about this. There is no one answer. I've read so many books and really studied up on this and I still feel like a total noob.

Temp stays in mid to high 70s.

I fed them GH Flora. Half dose. Also added less then half a dose of liquid karma and superthrive. Flushed them today when I woke up and found them like this.

I also have hygrozyme. Would this help?
 

kmk420kali

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Not to throw something else in the mix...but I would put them in a bigger container-- More soil seems to help self correct problems-- :tiphat:
 

catcherintheye

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if you transplant them like KMK said, they will be totally fine, it seems youve overwatered and fed. I would just grow with FFOF its not much different from what ur using aside from vermiculite and coco which really are doing much of NOTHING for you. All the goodies in the FFOF could only help and you can skip using all that superthrive, gh Bullshit. FFOF has everything you need. If you wana add a tiny bit of liquid karma, that would help, but nutes would be unecessary.

Buy a bag of FFOF transplant ur girls into two times the soil theyre in now and give them a small amount of water and thats it! Within two weeks theyll explode in size and vigor no more yellowing or dying leaves. Wait till your more experienced and dont feel like a "noob" to use a homemade soiless mix. There will be alot more ease in a good organic composted soil for you right now.

Alot of problems come for over nurishing your plants and babysitting them. They dont need much from you, just give them a tiny bit of nutes and water and let em do their thing. Theyll tell you if somethings wrong or if they need something. In this case its probably a new home two sizes bigger and just some plain water. Use dechlorinated water if youre using FFOF or any beneficial fungus/bacteria.

in short, ur problems, probably PH, too much water, nute burn and alot of salts in ur mix from the GH and ESPPP the superthrive. Using organic teas and nutes for veg are soo damn simple and you dont have to worry about PH, Then you can use a pseudo organic bottled nute like pure blend for flower whilst still using teas and the PH could be off, yet the humates and stuff in the tea act as a good PH buffer so PH isnt that big an issue in organics, Sorry if i explained that like a moron. But even for a "noob" youll find much more ease in organics. peace, blessings.

NO hygrozyme wont work! adding more shit wont solve ur problem! youve arrived at this from adding unnecessary things to ur plant, had you only used water even had you overwatered, your plants wouldnt react like that. Its due to Ph, moisture, and nutrients.

I really suggest buying an organic premix compost soil and I think FFOF is best. I would only use high quality potting compost. dont buy some organic bullshit from ur home and garden store. Buy soils actually tried and true if you dont like or wana use fox farms. I would especially get a new organic grow medium if you chose a soiless mix at random and are not partial to it.There wil be Less stress and guesswork, just transplant. Put the bottles down, and give her water. Seriously read into organics, and stop giving those hydro store assholes your money. They will sell you anything in a bottle and most of it is filler inactive bullshit! You can source so many of your own organic nutrients for free and they are far more forgiving that synthetics are. Hopefully youll look into it.
 

Pandor181

Member
Thank you for all of your advice everyone.

catcherintheye, that was a detailed and thoughtful post and I wanted to thank you individually as well.

:thank you:
 
it looks to me that you have a pH problem which is messing with how your plant obsorbs nuetrients,i would get on top of your pH make sure that it is correct and give them about half nuets for the next 3 or 4 waterings and let them dry out in between,i give mine nuets then clear water in 3 to 4 days then nuets 3 to 4 days later lift the bucket see how light it is if its real light then its time to water,i dont see this as an over watering issue,i think it is nuet defi do to lockout from your pH being off.
 
put em in a bigger pot with some good organic soil, id bet if u have good drainage in 4 days u will be in a world of difference, ive got almost the same problem right now, but im trying to get a extra special male clone to come back to life. it looks very similar, i just replanted it today
 
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