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Will Cigarettes Be Made Illegal in the Near Future?

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WILL CIGARETTES BE MADE ILLEGAL IN THE NEAR FUTURE?

The battle over cigarettes is heating up - and recent news shows that momentum to criminalize tobacco smoking continues to build in the United States and around the world.

Last week the New York Times reported on the Himalayan Kingdom of Bhutan's war on cigarette smokers. Back in 2005 Bhutan banned the sale of tobacco but made little headway as smugglers brought in cigarettes from India. Now the country is enforcing the ban by allowing authorities to break down doors looking for illegal cigarettes. People who sell illegal cigarettes are now facing five year sentences. Breaking down doors and long sentences over the tobacco plant! Sounds familiar? If it does, it's because that's how the U.S. deals with the marijuana and coca plants.

And the creeping criminalization of tobacco is not only happening in far away places, but right here in the "Land of the Free."

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that the FDA is looking into banning menthol cigarettes. The argument by some antismoking groups is that menthol cigarettes are enticing to adolescent smokers and have been marketed to the African American community. A ban on menthols would build on the FDA's ban last year on flavored cigarettes and cloves.

While I support many restrictions on public smoking, such as at restaurants and workplaces, and I appreciate public education campaigns and efforts aimed at discouraging young people from smoking, I believe the prohibition of menthols would inevitably lead to harmful and unintended consequences.

For millions of people, menthols are their smoke of choice. I have no doubt that someone is going to step in to meet this demand. What do we propose doing to the people who are caught selling illegal menthol cigarettes? Are cops going to have to expend limited resources to enforce this ban? Are we going to arrest and lock up people who are selling the illegal cigarettes? Prisons are already bursting at the seams ( thanks to drug laws ) across the country. Are we going to waste more taxpayer money on criminalization and incarceration?

The prohibition of flavored cigarettes also moves us another step closer to total cigarette prohibition. Last year it was cloves. This year it may be menthol. And why not all cigarettes next year? Cigarettes kill; 400,000 people die prematurely every year from smoking. When we analyze the harm from drugs, there is no doubt that cigarettes are the worst. Considering how harshly we deal with less harmful drugs like marijuana, by that same flawed logic cigarettes should be illegal too.

But with all the good intentions in the world, outlawing cigarettes would be just as disastrous as the prohibition of other drugs. After all, people would still smoke, just as they still use other drugs that are prohibited, from marijuana to cocaine. But now, in addition to the harm of smoking, there would be a whole range of "collateral consequences," such as black market-related violence, that crop up with prohibition.

Remember, banning marijuana and coca plants have led to 35,000 deaths in Mexico due to prohibition over just the past four years. Imagine what banning the tobacco plant would do. We would have a black market, with outlaws taking the place of delis and supermarkets, stepping in to meet the demand and provide the desired drug.

Instead of buying your cigarettes in a legally sanctioned place, you would have to hit the streets to pick up your fix. The cigarette trade would provide big revenue to "drug dealers," just as illegal drugs do today. There would be shootouts in the streets and killings over the right to sell the illicit substance.

We need to realize that drugs that already have an established demand, whether cigarettes or marijuana or alcohol, will always be consumed, whether they are legal or illegal. Although drugs have health consequences and dangers, making them illegal - and keeping them illegal - will only bring additional death and suffering.

We should celebrate our success curbing cigarette smoking and continue to encourage people to cut back or give up cigarettes, but let's not get carried away and think that criminalizing smoking or making cigarettes illegal is the answer.






Source: AlterNet (US Web)
Author: Tony Newman
Note: Tony Newman is communications director for the Drug Policy Alliance
 

zenoonez

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Just wait for the backlash against all this intervention into people's personal lives and choices.
 

pearlemae

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The government outlawed alcohol and look where that went. Cannabis basically the same as alcohol. To think banning tobacco will be any different than the previous two, well we know how that will work. Boot leg smokes, no tax paid, money lost through enforcement expenses although it will help fill the prisons with a steady source of slave labor. I quit tobacco years ago but I don't think outlawing it is the answer. Eudcation about quitting is more productive. IMHO- for what its worth.
:smoweed: it's better for you.
 

compost

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No they won't. However you will start to see a transformation. I bet were not to far off from the smokes in the 5th element or the electronic cig taking over. Either way the price of them will continue to skyrocket.
 

bird

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will they ever learn that make something illegal that is "bad" is not goin to stop it. the only thing it will do is give drug lords more money, and more fighting.
 

RudolfTheRed

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the tax revenue generated by tobacco products is out of this world. i doubt they will ban the sell of them completely, however they have been coming down harder on cigarette companies as of late. i heard the FDA approved the ban on menthol cigarettes already, and apparently they FDA also wants to put images on cigarette packs to even further deter people from smoking. Some of the images would be rather graphic too like people in coffins, etc.

i grew up in the south and don't mind tobacco products. if someone wants to smoke in the comforts of there personal space have at it. if a restaurant owner wants to allow smoking that is his business, and if you don't like it eat elsewhere. i personally do not smoke but i don't think people's right to smoke should be taken from them. i think its a disgusting habit with more cons and pros, and smoking is part of the reason our health care system is so stressed, but that's not a good enough reason to ban smoking for me. cheese burgers and fat people stress the health care system too but were not banning hamburgers anytime soon. just let people smoke. as long as they aren't blatantly puffing smoke in someones face that doesn't like it i don't give a shit what you want to kill yourself with.

i also think you are about to see a lot of people transition to those electronic cigarettes. last time i went to see a movie i saw a guy puffing on one in the theater. i couldn't smell it or anything, and unless you looked at him you wouldn't know either. its seem healthier and they even make them with no nicotine and they seem to have a lot less chemicals in them.

i say if you really want to smoke something that bad roll a joint. at least it gets you stoned.
 
Well, I could see it if federal health care (or lack of care) passes. If the government gets into the health care business they can and probably would restrict or ban anything they think could increase health care costs. Look at the places that have banned trans fats being used in restaurants. Tobacco, salt, fast food, maybe even extreme sports activities could be regulated to keep health care costs down and to "protect the people"...
On the bright side, if marijuana is ever proven as medicine, has anti-cancer properties, and become federally legal...Guess what the tobacco growers will be growing if tobacco is banned?
 

jarff

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Someone said that cigs kill 400,000 ppl. a year.Alcohol kills more than that but they won,t ban it.How many ppl. die from prescription drugs .? they won,t ban them.They should ban cars while they are at it.Car accidents kill tens of thousands every year.and the biggest killer is food? ..So my answer is NO cigs won,t be banned...Us smokers will have less places to smoke outside our homes or property but Cigs won,t be banned.Another point is the Gov,t taxes them in $billions.

jarff
 

HempKat

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I say it's a stupid idea to make something illegal after it has been legal hundreds of years and you have millions upon millions addicted to it.

Now if they want to move things in a different direction, like make it so you can't find cigarettes at gas stations, convenience stores, beer/liquor stores, grocery stores etc. I could get behind that. Make it internet/mail order only. I say that because as a smoker wanting to quit the hardest part for me is the fact that anytime I want a cigarette all I need do is walk 5 minutes or less, any direction from my house, and I can find a place to get them. When you quit you're hit with powerful urges that come on suddenly and having cigarettes so easily accessible makes it near impossible to resist that urge.
 

Sandnut

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Governments earn insane amounts of money from tobacco taxes
And tobacco is keeping population down, which is a good thing

Governments like this, and they are in charge not the people, so I'd say NO.
 
Banning things isn't American, it isn't effective, and it certainly makes us look like the country with the most futile legislation.

Smoking bans across the country are laughed at by many establishments who continue to let their clientele excercise rights given to them by God, according to our own documents.

The hyperbolic hypocrisy will ultimately invalidate anything handed down to us against our wishes.
 
Cloves aren't banned.

They very well are. You may be referring to clove cigars (which strangely enough showed up right after the ban on clove cigarettes) in which case you would be right.

Clove cigarettes are indeed banned. That's what happens when the FDA is put in charge of something the ATF sounds like it's responsible for.
 
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