"They all taste like dirt!" - Are "we" full of it or have a well trained palette?

[THE PABLOS]

vaporizers nor hash work for me testing flavor. Strange as that may sound (or unsound in concept)....I have to have flowers for the flav test. With hash and vaporizing I get a standard flav...although sometimes the very 1st hit is more distinct in flavors...after that it just has a generic flav.

I use a solder wand to light my bowls...no butane...I can get my glands to vaporize slower...and the scorch of green gives the flavor its depth. I've found no better a way...even dry sieve does not give me the same accuracy. Myself and my peeps are flower smokers anyway.

I agree that some of the lesser flavored expressions are actually the best heads. If you are fortunate you get the whole package....flavor..head...longevity of said head....blessings.

I also agree that some dirt flavors...are peeps getting the woody, incense, earthy flavors....but their palate is not experienced enough to realize it......or we self claimed connoisseurs have become tainted by our own knowledge of the proposed flavors in the varieties we cultivate.

Honestly...I'd be hurt if someone told me my weed tasted like dirt. I'd load them up with an old skool "thumb crusher" and blow them out to Saturn....straight out of the bong....a cough to get off rippity do da....dirt my ass....but I admire the person's honesty.

 

[KnowBudz]

I haven't encountered dirt weed since the early-80's, but if the choice is schwag, I'll do without. But then, maybe this person has tasted some really super dirt that left quite an impression!

 

[Mr. Mountain]

I grew some of Sam's Thai Haze x Skunk once that even did that to me. The first time I smoked it I took 3 large bongrips and sat back thinking "hmm, this is pretty mild". The next thing I knew I was in my shower, repeatedly pulling out my bottom lip and letting the water fill up my mouth then letting my lip snap back. I didn't know how I ended up in the shower, and when I realized the sheer stupidity of what I was doing I launched into a fit of hilarity that almost became painful. The kind where you're laughing so hard no sound is coming out.

I just about DIED laughing when I read that, as a matter of fact I may have pissed myself!

It was like someone hung a blue tree car air freshener in a hardwood spice cabinet.

That describes my Johnny Blaze "To a T" the smells are in the blue family for sure, but with that woody cedar/sandalwood spicy thing going on.



Anyway, I have had people tell me that they "Don't feel anything" or "This doesn't taste like anything" when they were smoking my Mango Haze for God's sake!

The younger/less refined smokers have no appreciation for the high/taste of a sativa.


Thanks for the laugh, and the good read!

Mr. M

 

[3dDream]

THE PABLOS - I'm gonna have to try smoking that way.

I also agree that some dirt flavors...are peeps getting the woody, incense, earthy flavors....but their palate is not experienced enough to realize it......or we self claimed connoisseurs have become tainted by our own knowledge of the proposed flavors in the varieties we cultivate.

This is what I am worried about the most. For example, I just vaped something that as cali-o in it and I can detect citrus or orange and people not aware of the breeding describe the flavor in terms of other plants. I hear oh it tastes like sage, cilantro, earthy, dirt, or ferns.

Honestly...I'd be hurt if someone told me my weed tasted like dirt. I'd load them up with an old skool "thumb crusher" and blow them out to Saturn....straight out of the bong....a cough to get off rippity do da....dirt my ass....but I admire the person's honesty.

I have to admit that I busted out my f13 to send her in orbit, but I also wanter her to try something more floral. The dirt comment was her first reaction. I think I said something like "WHAT!!?!?!?! REALLY?!?!" and she then said she could detect differences. I think if I give too much of an emotional reaction people might suspect that I am the grower.

 

[Herborizer]

i like to think i have a refined pallate... when i smoke via my roor i can taste a lot of differences between different buds.

but when i use my volcano and vape it all tastes the same....

This is why I like the Extreme Q so much better. I believe the Bags sort of ruin the vapor. The Extreme has a whip and you take direct hits from the bowl. I have not found a better way to appreciate all the subtle flavors.

Volcano is good, don't get me wrong. There are no many trash vaporizers its sad, because it gives vaporizers a bad name. In my opinion, a quality vaporizer cannot be beat.

 

[Bueno Time]

I have a nice little bud of some stuff that when I smoke it out of my pipe the first hit especially (green hit) tastes like dirt but not dirt quality weed but seriously tastes earthy tastes like the smell of soil. I like that earthy dirt/soil taste. But I also like piney, fruity, hashy, skunky, etc tastes I like to taste the different buds. LOL Im sure we all do...

Just wondering if the OP meant she said it tastes like dirt as in soil or earthiness or if she meant it tasted like dirt quality weed.

 

[3dDream]

Mr. Mountain - "The younger/less refined smokers have no appreciation for the high/taste of a sativa." I think some people aren't aware of their perceptions unless they are impaired (drunken).

 

[3dDream]

Bueno Time - It was her first time smoking anything. She has never even had a cig and she wanted to try herb for the first time and the vape sounded more appealing than burning. She meant that they tasted earthy, not something gross.

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I tell ya, a girl smoked some Black Flo and said dirt as well...and she grew the plant too!!!

I think some people have a dirt 'forward', and nothing else registers after the balsam bite

 

[3dDream]

Mr. Alkaline - I agree Mr. A. BTW it is nice to see you out of the DJ forum. Here is something along those lines.

Jay Gottfried, a neuroscientist studying the brain’s perception of smell at Northwestern University, offers a slightly different interpretation. From his work, he has hypothesized that the reaction to cilantro stems from instinctual reasons. In order to avoid threatening or poisonous food, humans would assess a food by smell and/or taste instantly; in the case of cilantro, it held for some a bitter, unpleasant taste, causing them to reject it. This intense, negative reaction created a pattern in the brain, prompting those persons to avoid cilantro in the future. Gottfried asserts that this method of forming positive- or negative-based brain patterns about food has persisted to this day, affecting our various taste preferences.

This helps explain, in turn, those strange creatures that have crossed sides: former cilantro-haters who have buried their aversion and embraced cilantro. Gottfried, himself, explains how he overcame a dislike for cilantro by learning to associate the herb with tasty dishes and pleasant family interactions. So there is still hope, then, for all you soap-scoffing folks out there.



Read more: http://www.herbcompanion.com/blogs/blog.aspx?blogid=744&blogmonth=5&blogyear=2010#ixzz1BnpXeaUw

So she could have tasted dirt because she didn't want to like it or because of her south american palette?

 

[3dDream]

one more :

The senses of smell and taste evolved to evoke strong emotions, he explained, because they were critical to finding food and mates and avoiding poisons and predators. When we taste a food, the brain searches its memory to find a pattern from past experience that the flavor belongs to. Then it uses that pattern to create a perception of flavor, including an evaluation of its desirability.
If the flavor doesn't fit a familiar food experience, and instead fits into a pattern that involves chemical cleaning agents and dirt, or crawly insects, then the brain highlights the mismatch and the potential threat to our safety. We react strongly and throw the offending ingredient on the floor where it belongs

 

[WelderDan]

I hear yah. I flush the shit out of my herb. The hog was on plain water for the last month of her life. I use coco and botanicare nutes.

starwatcher - No She did not smoke. I know what you mean though. Smokers are missing out on lots of things.

PondeLftHndSide - Thanks. Yeah I secretly wanted her to have the best experience possible. I mean my first smoke was brick weed. As far as her calling my weed dirt, I am not offended. I am trying to understand her viewpoint with this thread

accessndx - I use a whip style vape so the first 3-5 hits are the green hits. Some herb will coat my tongue and I can taste them for 10+ minutes. I agree that vapes give more flavor. Smokers can argue that the get a stronger high, but I prefer the vape. I do smoke now and again if I am testing moms.

GreenMind - On top of the dirt comment she said she did not fell high at all. About 15 minutes later we were all laughing our asses off.

WelderDan - I do have a good sense of smell. Maybe she didn't let it hit her nose? People do take goofy hits the first time they smoke.


So we can chalk this up to limited experience and a limited sense of smell?

Smell and taste are interlinked. I know, to my palette, some things taste like they smell, other things not so much. I like to inhale/exhale at least some of the smoke through my nose. I get a fuller representation of the taste that way.

But we all are wired different, and we all perceive smells and tastes differently.

As I said earlier, Cilantro taste like soap to my palette. That is a genetic quirk, as only a small percentage of people think it taste like soap.

Cyanide is usually odorless, but a certain small percentage of people describe the smell as bitter almond.

I think your friend just has a different perception of taste. It's not a matter of quality of the taste of your herb, but more her perception of taste compared to yours.

And you probably have a more refined palette, as she is new to toking up.

Let her get a few more smoking experiences under her belt. She'll be a connoisseur in no time.

 

[THE PABLOS]

THE PABLOS - I'm gonna have to try smoking that way.



This is what I am worried about the most. For example, I just vaped something that as cali-o in it and I can detect citrus or orange and people not aware of the breeding describe the flavor in terms of other plants. I hear oh it tastes like sage, cilantro, earthy, dirt, or ferns.



I have to admit that I busted out my f13 to send her in orbit, but I also wanter her to try something more floral. The dirt comment was her first reaction. I think I said something like "WHAT!!?!?!?! REALLY?!?!" and she then said she could detect differences. I think if I give too much of an emotional reaction people might suspect that I am the grower.

Yup 3D....I bought my ceramic tipped solder wand at Frys (you need to get the right model)...cost $30. I never use butane or matches anymore...for many yrs now. I'll smoke a joint if I don't have a wand handy.

Most peeps just want to get sent into orbit anyway lol....and if you have purple weed most will reach for that 1st....just been my experience....your majority likes what is pretty/colorful and makes them retarded with a single ripper. Most won't understand anything beyond that. I keep my heavy sativa "speciality" stuff away from them mostly....I've had noses stuck high in the air when they've seen what a Haze flower looks like lol...o well.

Understand what you are saying about emotional reaction...not wanting to give yourself away.

Being objective when testing out my stuff....man that can be hardest thing. I often read that thing Skunkman has in his signature....something about "believe what you see....not what you want to see." Think those are very wise words....very teaching.

I've fallen victim to my subjectivity as a cultivator in the past. I've also fallen victim to the curing process and organics....I've concluded that herb must taste great right off the vine/fresh and that it must be able to stand on its own....no help from the feed/medium. If it can do that....I'll give it the nod for the flav test....if it can not....shit canned.

 

[motaco]

I remember the first time I smoked dank weed out of a clean glass piece. I thought I was going to vomit. The taste was so thick and green it was like shoving a pine tree in my mouth.

It definitely took some time for me. Eventually I got to where I can't even smell the weed smell, only the subtleties of the smell. Like a guy that lives next to a paper mill so long he can't smell it anymore. But he can still smell the flowers in his garden next door.

 

[Mr. Mountain]

Lots to think about here... I will return later.

 

[love?]

Not exactly the same thing but anyway. I've noticed with smells that sometimes when you grow a strain for the first time, unless the odor is really overpowering it might seem like the buds don't really have a distinct smell at all. But when you grow them out again and whiff the jar you'll regognize that familiar smell instantly, sometimes at least. So I think there's definitely some kind of learning process involved.

 

[jeffie]

there's no weed that tastes like something else when smoked. all pot smokes like pot and tastes like pot. rounder or harsher, slightly sweeter or bitter or spicy or whatever but all within weed taste frame.

 

[GreenMind]

there's no weed that tastes like something else when smoked. all pot smokes like pot and tastes like pot. rounder or harsher, slightly sweeter or bitter or spicy or whatever but all within weed taste frame.

. Its always good to know who the cheap dates are!

dj short f13

 

[GP2B]

I find it funny when all the grow/smoke reports tell tall tales of the strains smelling/tasting exactly as the name would suggest. Especially when they are looking for praise or free beans, etc. from a breeder trying to hype a new line or strain.

 

[headbutt no1]

I am amazed how many people know what dirt tastes like I have never felt the need to try it.