diagnosis please

[bobman]

how do i contradict myself. we both agree that ph is not the problem here. right? it probably rootbound and the spray caused this. once new growers learn those 3 things i stated above you know as well as i that ph is never the problem. how many ph problems have you had in soil? My bet is none. Sure a build up of salts can fuck things up but that is rare. And again the soil is not the problem its the salts. Most problems I see people always say ph. but thats not the real problem it the heavy wet soil and you know thats true. So its is ph but its not. its caused by not giving good wet and dry cycles.

 

[pashi2004]

Plants have been in flower aproxx 2 weeks ( give or take a few hours ) they are sitting in john innes soil ' until the other day the i was under the impression that the ph was 7.5 but yesterday i probed all 9 plants and the probe read just under 7.0 , they have all been fed on ionic nutrient solution , soil grow , soil bloom , soil boost ,

 

[paulo73]

I can´t see the new growth properly on those pics and that makes it a bit harder to give advice.
Let the pots dry up and then pull the plants out of it , gently please, and check if any is root bound. If that is the case go for a bigger pot or a root trimming and some fresh soil on the same pot.
If that is not the case i would do a couple of good flushes with water spiked with a couple of drops of PH down in order to solve any possible nute lock.
Imho i would say you have over done it. Too many sprays and watering but this is just a noobo opinion.
Bobman and Phedro let´s all share a bowl and help the OP
One love many hearts

 

[bobman]

I just took some pictures just for mister know it all. I am so sorry this guy just pissed me off. I guy growing under a 400 and he is going to insult me i must put him in his place.

 

[bobman]

Plants have been in flower aproxx 2 weeks ( give or take a few hours ) they are sitting in john innes soil ' until the other day the i was under the impression that the ph was 7.5 but yesterday i probed all 9 plants and the probe read just under 7.0 , they have all been fed on ionic nutrient solution , soil grow , soil bloom , soil boost ,

you have them in a good soil that was already ammended with dolomite. does not look like you added much perlite. you are going to notice different things as they start to flower too. overall they look good. what size pots?

 

[bobman]

Here is just for my 400 watt brother that likes to talk shit. Those are all 1000s baby. 3 for flower and one for veg. Enjoy. Those are big bushs in the first picture. See if you can see my hidden message just for my smart assed little friend

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Its not the size of the light its how ya use it..youngster.

And I know I definetly dont know even close to anything..I never claimed to.
I just know that PH is something to be watched in a grow.Unless going organic..and maybe still then to.

Learn how to act.

 

[bobman]

In the third picture you will notice some leaf discoloration. They were just severally root bound in 1 quart hempy. You talked about going hydro I would suggest going hempy all these plants are in hempy. After 8 years in dirt i made the switch over a year ago and i hit myself for not doing it sooner

 

[bobman]

Its not the size of the light its how ya use it..youngster.

buddy your way out of your league here. show some respect. you wanted pictures and i showed you pictures, just for you. by the way i am probably older than you. but i must admit those are nice good job.

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Thank You..and your rooms look good as well.

But no I think im older...who gives a fuck though..right..lols.

Aint no league either.

Take Care.

 

[paulo73]

Ohm! Ohm! Ohm!
Puff puff and pass it around....

 

[bobman]

Well we fucked this guys thread all up. Sorry pash. Keep posting your questions and I will be here to help. Overall, I think you are going to be fine.

 

[bobman]

hi bobman , ive 9 plants in total 4 of them are the same species and are in the smaller pots and are about 18'-2ft high , these are the ones with the leaf yellowing , the other plant ( with the leaf burn ? ) is one of three that are in slightly bigger pots and are about 2ft+ high but the other two show no problems , the other two plants i have are g7 and although small have some fantastic flowers appearing and are doing really well . This is whats confused me , How can only 4 plants have a deficiency when they are all fed the same and all sit in the same soil ? and if all plants have been sprayed witht he same bug spray wouldnt they all have leaf burn ? By the way tent temp is steady at 32deg

Sorry i missed this. you will learn plants can do all sorts of weird things. its better to look at the overall health of the plant. if you see a problem you are trying to watch out for it spreading. you must remember this is an imperfect environment for plants so its not going to be perfect. Its hard to say why this plant shows one symptom and one plant does not. When plants are root bound they will yellow.The general rule of thumb is one gallon for every foot of growth. When intense light hits leafs that have just been sprayed it can and will cause some burn. I do not know enough specifics of your grow to tell you for sure what is going on but I think I have a pretty good idea that that is what happened. Plus you just mentioned you put them in flower 2 weeks ago that will cause changes because the plant is producing different hormones and has different needs now. Again the main thing is the overall health and is a problem really a problem or just normal leaf damage from growing in an unnatural environment. You said your temps are 32 degrees, i imagine that is 32c and not 32f. I dont know what that is but if its over 85 or 90 degrees f than that is not going to be easy on the plants and can cause some leaf damage. Just watch out for the overall health and you will be able to tell when a plant is truely in trouble. From those pictures it does not look bad. Every grower goes through this with a new strain and learning what that plant will like or not like. Every plant is different even if it the same strain.

 

[pashi2004]

Hi bobman ' thanks for sticking with me ' we've just spent the last two hours repotting the babies , everyone was rootbound to some extent or another , they've all gone up in pot size and repotted in fresh john innes number two , im' not planning on feeding them because i asssume they will feed on the nutrients in the fresh soil , is this correct ? what would u reccomend now bobman ? i will post new pics later
many thanks ,
ps think the pots are 30cm
pps yeah mate 32c and plants are about 2-3ft below 1x 250 and 1x 600

 

[bobman]

did add perlite to the mix

 

[pashi2004]

lol , like i said bobman . 4 weeks ago i knew zippo about this stuff , i dont even know what perlite is or what it does , havent come across it yet ' my apprenticeship not covered that subject yet but ive a feeling its about to

 

[bobman]

if u did not don't worry. i am surprised you did so well without it. just do what you did to get them to the size they are now. go with your gut and read the plants. you can probably feed again right away but i do not know much about the products you are using. the hardest part is getting them to a foot tall. after that they are pretty tough and can handle a lot of abuse. i will keep an eye out on this thread if you have any problems or questions i will be lurking

 

[Legalize420]

I dont want to create another thread. So I'll ask here.
My unknown skunk started to curl up leaves... Down leaves looks like paper, not good color and very sick. Main problem in my opinion is:
Soil mix ph is above 6.5
I added perlite (ph buffering)
Im watering with water from shops. Its ph is ~7

IT'S HIGH PH ?
Because i see, that this is K,Ca,Mg lock. Because if PH goes more thant 7, plant cant absorb these elements and stops veg.

So. I dont have any ph meter. I can measure only temperature...

How can i down ph ? Now I watered 12 days plant with 2 drops of lemon into 0.5l . How can ph down after 2 drops of lemon? PH of water is neutral. Any suggesions?

 

[bobman]

if you made it this far without perlite you have done a great job. perlite lightens up the soil and allows it to dry faster. the main problem new growers have is they have a small plant in a big container or at least a big container compared to the root mass. what happens is the soil seems dry but there is a mud ball in the middle of container. they water thinking the plant needs it and the roots suffocate because they are sitting in this mud. they see the plant start to grow very slowly and the leafs starting showing all kind of different signs and they think they have a ph problem. when all they have to do is add more perlite to there mix and water less. Once plants get to a certain size you do not have to worry about it as much. Just something for future consideration.

 

[bobman]

I dont want to create another thread. So I'll ask here.
My unknown skunk started to curl up leaves... Down leaves looks like paper, not good color and very sick. Main problem in my opinion is:
Soil mix ph is above 6.5
I added perlite (ph buffering)
Im watering with water from shops. Its ph is ~7

IT'S HIGH PH ?
Because i see, that this is K,Ca,Mg lock. Because if PH goes more thant 7, plant cant absorb these elements and stops veg.

So. I dont have any ph meter. I can measure only temperature...

How can i down ph ? Now I watered 12 days plant with 2 drops of lemon into 0.5l . How can ph down after 2 drops of lemon? PH of water is neutral. Any suggesions?

read what i just wrote. again i doubt its ph. how big are the plants? what size container? and how ofter are you watering?