I wanted to let everyone in Maine know that their is no protection from Law Enforcement with your Paperwork. The Police are not educated and do not understand the new Medical Laws. They can and will be granted a search warrent and treat you as a criminal even with a licence from the state. The police will arrest you and throw you in jail and make you and your lawyer fight it out in court.... They will count your vegitative and mother plants and clones toward your total plant count to raise your charge to felony levels. They can take your plants your vehicles and anything else from your home. One of my patients got in trouble and used my name to police. Next thing I know I am in jail and completly destryoed in everyway. The police never checked or called with the state they just broke the door down. Of course they came After Jan 1, many of my patients were wating until after the holidays to register and some paperwork never came back from the state backlog. So yes They caught me in between the new and old law by 5 days. Just wanted everyone to know how the local leo is handling these cases. DO a google search I am not the only one. I just dont understand how a patients word could be enough? Why was the state not called first to verify or come do an inspection? Be careful who you take as a Patient, I know of two other caregivers who has either been extorted or threatened by low life patients looking for free medicine. Thier is alot of great Legit patietns who need meds, but like any thing in life thier is always that 1% of scum.
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To all Maine caregivers and Patients
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emerald city
Apreciate the heads up..First...If this person has written out a statement implicating you,that is enough evidense to get a seach warrent....Im starting to hear like stories like this from other areas around Maine since the first week after january......As much as id hate to say it ,ive been adviseing patients to follow the rules of our medical mj law[get your DHHS mmj card] BUT still realize that federaly you are still breaking the law.If push comes to shove the boys in blue are always righter then you.
very sorry life has thrown you such a curve ball,hope things work out for you...Do you have a good lawyer yet...
good luck ...e/c
very sorry life has thrown you such a curve ball,hope things work out for you...Do you have a good lawyer yet...
good luck ...e/c
our lawyer is working on the case... It just makes me sick that the state takes my money gets me a licence and then I am treated as a criminal. Whats the point of operating a registed state corporation and being out in the open if any persons word can be used against me. They took a wet plant drying on my rack and are calling it over a pound of marijuana its crazy. Even If you are fully compliant thier is more then a good chance you will be arrrested for any clones, veg plants or mothers they can count toward yout total.
I have few years old med cannabis recommendation from my previous family doctor and also fresh one from my new doctor less the 30 days old?
This is no democracy, people vote but legislators don't care and are breaking their own laws. I have never benefited from this medical cannabis law, I never had a caregiver nor I knew how to get one and now when we will soon have dispenseries, I can just go in with my recommendation and buy my medicine? But I guess not, legislators ruined everything since no longer is written or oral doctor recommendation ENOUGH FOR THEM. People have voted for nothing, legislators are constantly for years trying and doing great job in preventing sick people access to medical cannabis. And they delay things and it's like this for years and years, for over 10 years. I can't believe it's been that long. But they just don't care if I am everyday in pain and suffering. They don't follow their own law.
Btw I will never register even tough I have a current doctors recommendation, I don't trust legislators and I don't have to register with the state when I am buying other legal medication. They just still treat medical cannabis as it's illegal, they never fail to suprise me. But they will suffer too one day and will remember then why did they restrict medical help to those in need. Now I know why hell exists for certain people who don't care about others and also are constantly ruining their lives.
This is no democracy, people vote but legislators don't care and are breaking their own laws. I have never benefited from this medical cannabis law, I never had a caregiver nor I knew how to get one and now when we will soon have dispenseries, I can just go in with my recommendation and buy my medicine? But I guess not, legislators ruined everything since no longer is written or oral doctor recommendation ENOUGH FOR THEM. People have voted for nothing, legislators are constantly for years trying and doing great job in preventing sick people access to medical cannabis. And they delay things and it's like this for years and years, for over 10 years. I can't believe it's been that long. But they just don't care if I am everyday in pain and suffering. They don't follow their own law.
Btw I will never register even tough I have a current doctors recommendation, I don't trust legislators and I don't have to register with the state when I am buying other legal medication. They just still treat medical cannabis as it's illegal, they never fail to suprise me. But they will suffer too one day and will remember then why did they restrict medical help to those in need. Now I know why hell exists for certain people who don't care about others and also are constantly ruining their lives.
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HenriettaHippo
I think they got rid of the affirmative defense when registration became mandatory as of January 1. As a registered patient you really do not need said affirmative defense, you are already covered, governed and protected by the state laws.
I was not at all a big fan of having to register but I did at the advice of council, being on the wrong side of the law will effectively sterilize your efforts like it or not.
lol.. I still am not sticking my neck out that far, I certainly do not want to be the test case or poster child for the new laws. No one is sure how they will translate in the court systems until a precedent is set within the system.
I was not at all a big fan of having to register but I did at the advice of council, being on the wrong side of the law will effectively sterilize your efforts like it or not.
lol.. I still am not sticking my neck out that far, I certainly do not want to be the test case or poster child for the new laws. No one is sure how they will translate in the court systems until a precedent is set within the system.
ThePieEyedPiper
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You said it... the magic words..."So yes They caught me in between the new and old law by 5 days. " hence illegal. they wont give breaks, stay legal.
The police will be fighting medical MJ tooth and nail all over the USA until legalization happens. They see us (MJ reformers and civil rights activists) as taking the food off their tables, they'll feel justified in performing any atrocities against us - looting, pillaging, etc.
With these medical programs it's going to be "in for a penny, in for a pound". If you decide to become "legal", you're going to have dot every "i" and cross every "t" on the form without exception! By participating and "registering" with the state you give them the right to come into your house at any time to "inspect" your garden.
personally I would not register into Maine's program. But I don't need to sell any herb to other people. If you want to be a caregiver for 5 people you're going to have meticulously keep track of the patients' registrations and your plant numbers for when the pigs come crashing through.
As Ziggy Marley said "don't know your past don't know your future". Don't forget history - the worst atrocities of war are always right before the end of the war. In the next 5 years we'll be seeing the absolute worst behaviors ever from the LEO's.
With these medical programs it's going to be "in for a penny, in for a pound". If you decide to become "legal", you're going to have dot every "i" and cross every "t" on the form without exception! By participating and "registering" with the state you give them the right to come into your house at any time to "inspect" your garden.
personally I would not register into Maine's program. But I don't need to sell any herb to other people. If you want to be a caregiver for 5 people you're going to have meticulously keep track of the patients' registrations and your plant numbers for when the pigs come crashing through.
As Ziggy Marley said "don't know your past don't know your future". Don't forget history - the worst atrocities of war are always right before the end of the war. In the next 5 years we'll be seeing the absolute worst behaviors ever from the LEO's.
I don't think anyone wants to "Register" and I agree with you but Maine Isn't the only state that has changed were you must register I do believe Colorado med patients also must register with the state and if you want to stay ( legal ) like it or not you must obide by state laws that pertain to your state if not then you will fuck it up for those trying to obtain and get a legal med card.
The day your born and have your Birth certificates and then you have to have a social security card, then a drivers license so are we really out of the Governments radar??
Were Owned from the minute we breath and I do not want nor like any Govermments knowing wtf I do but if I have to register to stay legal and have the best shot at a legal defense using my disabilities for the use of medical MJ then I guess I will have to do what is needed to save the skin on my own ass and protect my house, familia and rights as a med user for others that stand along side me in the fight for our rights.
I do not consider myself a med user as besides some migraines & old aged Bursitis in my arms and shoulders I am healthy and wouldn't qualify me for a medical card anyway.
The day your born and have your Birth certificates and then you have to have a social security card, then a drivers license so are we really out of the Governments radar??
Were Owned from the minute we breath and I do not want nor like any Govermments knowing wtf I do but if I have to register to stay legal and have the best shot at a legal defense using my disabilities for the use of medical MJ then I guess I will have to do what is needed to save the skin on my own ass and protect my house, familia and rights as a med user for others that stand along side me in the fight for our rights.
I do not consider myself a med user as besides some migraines & old aged Bursitis in my arms and shoulders I am healthy and wouldn't qualify me for a medical card anyway.
supersmallgiant
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HenriettaHippo
It is..100 and up is a felony. But they have the "Presumption of Sale" Rebuttable" for anything over 2.5 ounces. Since I am a Patient I am not aware of how they count plants in a criminal matter. For a patient a marijuana plant is defined as 12" tall, 12" Diameter and flowering.
how many plants did you have? over 100? could you tell us more about the new laws that happened over the new year
I thought 99 and under plants in ME was a misdemeanor irrespective of medical status? Is this not true?
Sucks to hear what the pigs in ME are up to.
Stories like yours show how worthless state registration programs are.
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HenriettaHippo
Here is link to the laws that went into effect August 4th of 2010.
http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/attach.php?id=118624&an=2
& yes 99 plants and under is a misdemeanor regardless of ones medical status. The definition of a "Marijuana plant" is totally different for a patient.
@ MR. Dizzle... AS far as I know The only thing that changed with the new year was the requirement to register, the actual MMJ laws went into effect August 4th of last year for those who registered.
I got my patient card last fall, my caregiver card I waited until the last minute as I could not afford the $300 per patient annual fee right away.
http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/attach.php?id=118624&an=2
& yes 99 plants and under is a misdemeanor regardless of ones medical status. The definition of a "Marijuana plant" is totally different for a patient.
From what I understand anything in triple digits will cause the feds to reel you in, 99 is the magic number. Somewhere in this forum is a post about rootballs that is quite bothersome..
@ MR. Dizzle... AS far as I know The only thing that changed with the new year was the requirement to register, the actual MMJ laws went into effect August 4th of last year for those who registered.
I got my patient card last fall, my caregiver card I waited until the last minute as I could not afford the $300 per patient annual fee right away.
I've resisted registering and getting into the system for some time now....mainly because I have 0 faith in the system or in local PD's actually adhering to the law.
That being said I have an appointment in 2 weeks w/ a doctor in the southern part of the state that is willing to sign the forms as long as there is proof of my condition. I have a brain cyst that causes insanely bad migraines. Both my PCP and my Neurologist belong to the same doctors group and are not allowed to sign off on MMJ....
Although I know Im taking a risk by registering, it seems like less of a rick than not being registered. I have heard of some busts in the state, the 2 that are recent both had over 100 plants in their grow.
to all Mainers, stay safe and fly low until the PD's in the state get educated and this plays out in court.
That being said I have an appointment in 2 weeks w/ a doctor in the southern part of the state that is willing to sign the forms as long as there is proof of my condition. I have a brain cyst that causes insanely bad migraines. Both my PCP and my Neurologist belong to the same doctors group and are not allowed to sign off on MMJ....
Although I know Im taking a risk by registering, it seems like less of a rick than not being registered. I have heard of some busts in the state, the 2 that are recent both had over 100 plants in their grow.
to all Mainers, stay safe and fly low until the PD's in the state get educated and this plays out in court.
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emerald city
As long as you you dont rub the local polices nose in the fact that your growing mmj,who's to know..
I dont care for the fact that im forced to reg with the state for "permission" but unless there is some legal issue nobody needs to know that im a mmj patient...DHHS cant give out any info to popo except for the fact that you either are/arnt a legal mmj patient....Stay off the radar and you be all set. E/C
