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save your money and increase vigor! boo roots excel lol

dmt

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one of canadas most respected med pot growers (doubldds) has found that liquid stim root 5000 is superior for these reasons:

-its 1/5 the cost

-the dose is yet still another fraction of roots excelerator

-it doubles root mass to root excelerator.

note that dd is also boycotting h and g in canada for shady business prowess


as most do, i frequent other sites to see what else is going on in the community.

there is a gentlemen called doubleds from another forum who may be one of canadas most respected med pot growers.

he is boycotting house and garden for many shady tactics.

here is what happened

"Official Boycott thread for house & garden CANADA
This is for CANADA only !!

I am writing this thread with alot of dissappointment. Most of you know me for my tree grows but i would rather be known for the meds we give away free to the over 62 med patients we grow for. What most of you dont know is all the patients and designated growers that can barely afford to grow there own, all the help we give them also. My front man buys large quantities of nutes from several different companies and equipment also. This in turn is sold to medical growers and designated growers for 5.00 per piece up to 4 pieces above cost.

ie. 10 items bought, 6 items at absolute cost and 4 items at cost plus 5.00.

This way med patients that are on welfare, dissability or part time jobbers because thats all they can do with there illness can still afford to grow there own medicine.

we monitor the peoples incomes that deal with us very closely so we are not taking any business away from the local hydro shops. If they can afford to pay they can only buy retail.

Jake & Dan (dutchtrading.ca)(house and garden distributors for canada) drove down to the maritimes a while back and met with my front man about these nutes. It was explained completely up front what we were doing and they agreed there was no problem and they would supply us with what we needed. They gave us 3 sample box's and they were off. We tested out the algen, multi zen and the roots excelerator and were pleased with the results until we tried other things and until we got our first official order of house and garden nutes. The samples were 3 times stronger than the regular product, that meant we needed 3 times more product than what the samples were. Most of you remember the first timers thread, he said he was going to try somthing else for root growth and added liquid stim root 5000 to his res rather that the roots excelerator. he never used the algen and he uses the canna zymes and had 2wice the root growth than he did with roots excelerator. His 2nd run he averaged 3.7 pounds per plant. stim root 5000, 1 litre bottle is 100.00 in canada and you only use 1 oz per 100 gallon res.

My front man placed an order on tuesday and everything was fine. On wednesday jake picked up the phone and called the 2 hydroponic shops that are in this area. Although these shops never carried house and garden nutes he offered them credit and they accepted.

My front man got a call this morning from jake saying that the owners of the 2 shops complained that we were getting nutes wholesale when we didnt have a storefront. THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT BECAUSE THE OWNERS OF THE 2 SHOPS ARE MY BEST FRIENDS and would never trade the 120,000 per year that i spend in there shops for maybe 20,000 profit off h&g nutes.

Jake is a fuckin liar and has screwed many medical patients with his lies. Both stores have agreed not to carry house & garden nutes at risk of losing our business.

I hope all CANADIANS will join us in the boycott, your not missing anything anyway, theres only 1 product they put out worth anything, roots excelerator but stim root 5000 liquid does 2wice the job and costs 1/5 the amount.

Lets show a company what screwing med patients does to them.

A letter is also being sent off to house & garden head office telling them whats been done here."

dds


this is pittfull and unprofessional business tactics, and folks should know about it, peace, d
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B

Bud Bug

one of canadas most respected med pot growers (doubldds) has found that liquid stim root 5000 is superior for these reasons:

I don't get it, so a deal goes sour and then all of a sudden they discover Stim Root 5000 and all over a sudden it works better then another product that they got shafted on. Seems odd.


Stim Root 5000 Label
http://msds.plantprod.com/document/354

Stim Root 5000 MSDS
http://msds.plantprod.com/msds/302

Seems like a liquid verions at .5% IBA of Stim Root Powder

Both stores have agreed not to carry house & garden nutes at risk of losing our business.

Sorry but this reads as those stores only source of income were those med customers.
 

dmt

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Veteran
hey bb, dont know.

ive used roots excell. it is bomb, but in dd's system they got better results with sr 5000. just wanted to share and help. dont wanna bash h and g. im currently waiting for my litre of sr 5000 to do my own resaerch.

i think they were using sr 5000 prior to their freebees from h and g. and populatiuon wise the east coast has a ton of med growers per capita vs the rest of canada, peace, d
 

slimjoint

Member
hey bb, dont know.

ive used roots excell. it is bomb, but in dd's system they got better results with sr 5000. just wanted to share and help. dont wanna bash h and g. im currently waiting for my litre of sr 5000 to do my own resaerch.

i think they were using sr 5000 prior to their freebees from h and g. and populatiuon wise the east coast has a ton of med growers per capita vs the rest of canada, peace, d
so you still havent got your sr 5000 and youre making these claims?
Roots excel works great, amazing at that.

Who cares what kind of business is going on, doesnt involve you or myself. They have a great product.
 
B

Bud Bug

so you still havent got your sr 5000 and youre making these claims?
Roots excel works great, amazing at that.

Who cares what kind of business is going on, doesnt involve you or myself. They have a great product.

Depends on their samples. If their samples are more concentrated the its a bait a switch situation unless they state it one the bottle. Now its still buyer be ware but who expects samples to be more concentrated then the retail product.
 

dmt

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so you still havent got your sr 5000 and youre making these claims?
Roots excel works great, amazing at that.

Who cares what kind of business is going on, doesnt involve you or myself. They have a great product.

it does involve me actually, as i am a part of canadas medical community. which dd's is boycotting h and m with.

ive had better results using h202 @ 2 ml per litre for my clone nutes, and need only to hear abot dd's tests to trust him. roots ecxel gave more roots but smaller thinner ones. h202 thicker whiter hairier ones.

this world is an interconnected web, if shady people sell medical people crap masquerading as gold, it reflects on the whole company.

do you believe becuase iraq got invaded that the dpeleted uranium doesnt effect your air? (metaphor)

peace, d
 

dmt

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^^^^^ doesnt stim root make stim root lol^^^^

i know stim root makes 2 powders for soft and hard wood cuttins available at home depot. isnt 5000 their liquid line?

ya i just checked, stim root makes stim root, peace, d
 
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Bud Bug

INteresting, who makes Stim Root 5000?

Plantprod, same people who make StimRoot. Benefox is cheap and also kicks ass on root growth but it'll stink up reservoirs in hydro if doing a non drain to waste system.
 

GanjaPharma

Member
stumbled across this one, DMT thanks for the tip and the news. i'll try stim5000 instead of excelurator, but cant boycott H&G completely, until i find a replacement for DripClean.

that stuff has changed my game! no more DTW and no salt issues, even with zero rinsing after 10+ grows with the stuff ( i do feed plain water last 10 days tho cuz i reuse my coir).

and DMT...I thought i had trees figured out, but you have schooled me a bit, and i thank you!
 

SensiBC

Member
Funny, I've had a bottle of Stimroot 5000 in my aresenal for the past year or so. Went into the shop looking for an additive for my aero cloner and the guy suggested it. Added a bunch to my Ez clone res (probably way too much as it turns out) and it seemed like it fermented in the res and I ended up with a strong alcohol smell, slime, and clone death. Stopped adding it to the res at that time, but still dunked my cuts into it before placing them into the cloner.

So for those of you actually adding this stuff to your res', under what circumstances are you using it (clones/veg/bloom) and at what dosage per gallon?
 

danks

Member
actually he said he couldnt notice a big diference between root excel and stim other then stim is cheaper but he also stole ideas from heath and called them his own. i dont like how he pushes the advanced sensi and for bang for your buck selfhemployed kills his gpw in soil lol using bio bizz.
 

danks

Member
specially because he stopped getting the root excel for free and other house and garden shit where as advanced sends all the new shit to you guys, advanced makes a few good products cloning gel bud candy hammerhead but way too pricey for what it is but for a novice you can run it straight from week 4 to the end at 800 ppm and get massive buds and dr hornby original big bud powder the 0-15-40. the rest is gabbage.
 

danks

Member
no but the 2 that do are having a little pissing war with some of the medicinal community so they are boycotting hg cause they dont wanna give them more free shit lol jajajajaja but they push advanced cause franks loves giving the shit away lol btw dmt check out advanced's arsenic content in their bloom 0-5-4 or conni or a and b . fuckign ridicoulous to feed your plants 5ppm of arsenic compared to 0.5 from general or supernatural. arsenic is not good and neither is advanced. fucking filthy water. btw i used advanced for 10 years until i read how bad thier shit really is. cut corners and spend what you saved on propaganda to beat out the competition lol. funny how the best nutes on the market the local stores dont carry cause they are 1/10 th the price and work twice as good.
 

hydr1

Member
Good shit..im glad info is opening peoples eyes and integrity is making change.


Don't support those douch bags.
 
A better/cheaper combo is "superthrive" and "Dip N grow" which is basically what root excel is minus the bloated price tag of course. Side by side testing will show how superior the above mentioned works.
 
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