First True Grow, 150w HPS Micro

[Chomp]

There is a big difference between the two so I just wanted to make sure...

Honestly if your plants aren't burned from over-fertilizing, then you can just feed them right up to the end with something like Big Bloom it's weak and made from worm poop....

When you do chop, I would leave a few of the plant's smaller bud sites on the plant (kind of like a reveg) to keep the root system alive until you chop the others. Depending on how long you have to wait on the others the dead roots might start attracting nasties in your soil...

What are you feeding them now?

Chomp

 

[AsbestosToast]

There is a big difference between the two so I just wanted to make sure...

Honestly if your plants aren't burned from over-fertilizing, then you can just feed them right up to the end with something like Big Bloom it's weak and made from worm poop....

When you do chop, I would leave a few of the plant's smaller bud sites on the plant (kind of like a reveg) to keep the root system alive until you chop the others. Depending on how long you have to wait on the others the dead roots might start attracting nasties in your soil...

What are you feeding them now?

Chomp

That is great advice! I hadn't thought of that. Three are about on the same page, the other 2 are the same strain, and have some catching up to do, but they are coming along so I hope they don't take too much longer. I am feeding them Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, and unsulphured molasses. I don't think I am over-fertilizing, but they are still showing signs of something, as evident from the burned tips and droopy leaves. But these are the oldest leaves, so I can't tell if this is residual from them being rootbound and not getting fed, or if they are just the older leaves that are not necessary to the plant, or something else entirely?

GrowBox420: Sounds like something to do with beneficial bacteria, which I believe breaks down the soil and makes it easier to absorb by the roots, but I am very far from an expert.

 

[Chomp]

I would back off on the Tiger bloom and just use the Big Bloom and molasses...To be honest Tiger Bloom and beneficial bacteria don't really mix very well. Tiger Bloom is pretty strong stuff and will lower the PH of your mix a lot. I only use it 2 to 3 times during bloom and cut it out at around 3 weeks before harvest... Molasses can sometimes cause problems if overused also...

It's best to brew a tea if you use molasses rather than just add it to your water IMHO

MyNameStitch has a pretty good guide on plant problems and remedies I think it's a sticky in the grow section.

If you don't check PH of your nutrient solution before watering the issues could be from PH problems....There are many possibilities

Chomp

 

[hazydreams]

chomp, awesome advice.




Toast,

you just transplanted into new FFOF, which makes more nutrients available. adding more ferts in your water on top of that will cause the burnt tips.

take a look at the picture underneath
""Here is the Ancient bud, looking possibly the fostiest of the whole bunch!""

in post 47. Ancient is dark dark green. leaves look a little too dark honestly. and the yellowing of the tips near the top of the bud is NOT "old growth".

everything you do, can be monitored from what the new growth at the top of the plant looks like. thats where your gonna see it first. then the fan leave edges going yellow.

 

[AsbestosToast]

You are totally right haze, they may have had a little too much nutrients, from watering with nutes on top of the transplant. I will make sure I check out pH of my solution before watering from now on, and will be watering with straight water for a while. Also, the burning problem that IS on the oldest leaves is a condition that seems to be persisting through the transplant. Either that or it is just residual damage. I agree the top leaves are looking too dark lately, but the lower leaves are exhibiting drooping and interveinal chlorosis, followed by necrosis, which starts at the tips and eventually I am picking up a shriveled, burnt leaf off of the floor. Is this all because of overfertilizing?

I should add also that I stopped fertilizing completely, then I did the transplant, then about a week after the transplant watered with I believe 1/2 strength nutrients. Throughout this whole series of events, the lowest leaves have been exhibiting the behavior mentioned above. Also, I have been checking the pH of the medium occasionally, and it was always been in range. Thanks for sticking around and helping me out with this guys!

 

[HobbyGrower]

Hey asbestos, hope your grow is going well.

I have the same problem. I use emily's garden and 3 plants share the reservoir at the moment. They are all different ages and now, after I broke one, different maturity. I'm not sure if I'm going to flush at all. It's really hard to change the nutrients in the reservoir right now especially after tying them down a bit. I was thinking a longer cure would let the nutes naturally leech.

I will definitely never grow more than one strain in this reservoir again. I would recommend it for SOG and 12/12 from seed.

That's probably what I'll do next. I came across some of the worst weed I ever smoked and it was FULL of seeds. Literally took about 30 seeds from a zip and still not done. I want to SOG bagseed so I can show my buddy what kind of stuff I can grow from schwag. I have fem. Widowrella and fem. Grapefruit also so it's gonna be a tough decision.


You're further along than me so I'll be watching to see how this transplant goes.

 

[AsbestosToast]

I wanted to get an update in before work, but I was too late. Fresh pics on the way! They are looking tastier by the day.

 

[hazydreams]

lets see the goods homie!

 

[AsbestosToast]

Alright screw it, I have time. I am going to try to keep it quick.
5.5 weeks in to flowering, these girls are fattening up nicely.

Pics are thumbnails to conserve space.

Canopy- big difference from last pics


Whitey-


Big Bud-


Ancient- really filling out, and so crystaly!


Mexi 1-


Mexi 2-


Whew, got it in. Check out the ladies, maybe someone can give me an estimate on how long till the Big Bud and Whitey should get the chop?! Also, estimates on final weight would be fun, but not necessary.

 

[hazydreams]

Ill venture a few guesses..

Big bud, ancient, whitey somewhere around 50-60 days i suspect. maybe longer for whitey

Mexi 1 and 2 look like 70 plus day plants, if they ever fill out.


over all you look like your getting better and better at caring for them.



total weight... say 200 grams wet, 30 dry.

 

[sman]

Great job on the recovery AsbestosToast they look wonderful. My pups are slowly declining but i hope they bounce back like yours did that would be amazing. It's hard to fix a noob problem when you have all these experienced ppl tellin ya to do all different stuff lol

 

[AsbestosToast]

Hazy- thanks for the compliment and the guesses. I would be so happy with an O from this grow, or anything really, but at least an O would be a great first harvest. While I'm getting guesses from people, I wonder if anyone has any clues as to the genetics of these ladies, besides the Big Bud obviously. They all seem to be indica or indica dom hybrids, but what do I know.

sman- Thanks for they kind words, I can definitely relate to having different people giving contrasting suggestions. I found that in the end, you have to take all your own knowledge, everyone else's knowledge, and just go with your gut, come up with a plan, and execute it. If it doesn't work out how you thought, at least you found out what doesn't work, and will be more prepared next time. Good luck with your girls!

 

[Chomp]

Hey AsbestosToast it looks like you have things squared away and you're on your way to a great harvest!!!

Keep the pics coming!

Chomp

 

[BC Chronic]

Very nice looking ladies AsbestosToastgreat job!!
That Ancient looks sweet bro! They all do! Who am I kidding!..lol...
Yeah there is some great advice coming in here too! Thats how we learn...
I'll be back soon..
take care

 

[AsbestosToast]

Hey BC, thanks for stopping by. It is a relief to see everything wrapping up pretty smoothly. After a ton of 60x eye-ball squinting, I believe Whitey will get the chop tonight before lights on. The hairs are nearly all orange-brown and shriveled, and as far as I can tell, the trichs are maybe 20% clear, 70% cloudy, 10% amber, so I think the time is right. It seems a little early at 44 days, but I looked for a good 20 minutes with 100x magnification, and I think the trichromes are where I want them to be. If it ends up being too early then lesson learned I guess...

Big Bud still has maybe a week or two to go, the others longer I reckon. The Mexican ladies are filling in more every time I look at them, and showing a good amount of trichs, so that is relieving also. I will definitely get pics up as soon as I can of the cut. Thanks everyone for helping me through every stage of this grow. My plants would be dead long ago without ICMag!

 

[Chomp]

Let Whitey live for another week I know it's very hard to wait but you will be rewarded with heavier more potent buds....that's my vote! They can pack on some weight in the last week or two and judging from your 1/13 pics she needs some more time IMHO. Don't worry about the hairs they don't mean anything when it comes to ripeness. Let her go for another week then....

KILL WHITEY!!!!

Whatever you decide....you turned what could have been a disaster into a great grow AT

Looking forward to your updates!
Chomp

 

[GrowBox420]

I know what you mean about squinting for 20mins looking at those trichomes.
Everything is looking great hope the chop goes well tonight always fun chopping the ladies.

 

[AsbestosToast]

Let Whitey live for another week I know it's very hard to wait but you will be rewarded with heavier more potent buds....that's my vote! They can pack on some weight in the last week or two and judging from your 1/13 pics she needs some more time IMHO. Don't worry about the hairs they don't mean anything when it comes to ripeness. Let her go for another week then....

KILL WHITEY!!!!

Whatever you decide....you turned what could have been a disaster into a great grow AT

Looking forward to your updates!
Chomp

Hey Chomp, thanks for the advice, and the compliment. I had planned on letting her go another week, but as you said, hairs aren't always a good indicator of ripeness, I'm going by what I am seeing from my 60x-100x scope, and checking several different buds on the plant, I think she is ready to go. I am not looking for the couch-lock as much as a good all-around vibe.

I'll probably give her one real good look over before I really make the cut, but she developed fairly early compared to the other plants, so I think that accounts for the quick finishing time. She has fattened up noticeably even in the 5 days since my update.

If it ends up being too early still, at least I learned something haha.

 

[Chomp]

Don't worry if it's 20/70/10 It's still going to be good smoke and if you don't like couchlock then it might be more to your tastes....

That is why we do this...to suit our own tastes right?

I just know it's really hard to be patient when you first start out....but if you have a good look and they are ready, then they are ready!

Have fun with it and give us a good smoke report

Chomp

 

[AsbestosToast]

Well everybody... internet has been down for a couple days around here. I did end up chopping Whitey, upon last inspection I decided it was time for her to go. She gave me 11.6 wet, 2.9 dry haha. Not exactly phenomenal, but considering she was the worst off of the bunch, that's fine with me. As I've said before, this grow is more for knowledge, the end product is just an added benefit at this point!

I was in such a rush to get these nugs in to my ghetto dryer that I didn't get any pics of them fresh, but here are a couple I just took.
The whole haul. Very airy buds, which accounts for the low weight, but very nice, fruity smell. I test tasted a couple nuglets, and I am very content with the taste and high. The fact that I got high off the ganja that I had actually grown was immensely satisfying in itself.

Here is the top nug, and the nicest looking.

The rest of the plants are looking pretty good. There is definitely some sort of deficiency going on, with yellowing and necrosis and whatnot, but maybe doesn't matter as much at this point. I am having a hard time reading the trichs on the Big bud and Ancient ladies, but from my best guest, they are looking pretty cloudy, so I will probably be cutting both of them in a week or less. I'll get some pics up tonight so I can get some insight from you gentlemen. The two Mexis are continuing to fill out, and probably still have a little bit to go. Thats about it, stay tuned for pics hopefully tonight.