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vta

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Police in Spring Valley, New York Terrorize Innocent Family

by Cannabis Karri

Police conducting raids in New York State yesterday terrorized a Spring Valley Family over an error in addresses. Spring Valley is just 22 miles North of Manhattan and raids conducted by the Spring Valley Police with help from Drug Enforcement Agents targeted citizens in Spring Valley, Mount Vernon, the Bronx, along with coordinated raids in northern New Jersey and the Albany area and parts of Pennsylvania. The large sting amounted to the arrests of 23 people and involved more than 200 police officers and about 13 different government agencies.

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Para-Military Raids like this happen 100-150 times per DAY in the US


But it was an innocent family that found themselves waking up to a nightmare. David McKay along with his wife, his brother in law and his 13 year old daughter were sleeping at 5:30am yesterday morning when they heard banging on the door of their townhouse. When they went to open the door, around 10 officers shoved their way into the home with their guns drawn and screaming “Where’s Michael, Where’s Michael”. Groggy from sleep, McKay tried to explain that there was no one named Michael in the house, that is when they pulled Mr. Mckay outside in the freezing cold, where he was only wearing underwear. The weather was 25 degrees yesterday morning with a windchill of 18 degrees.

According to McKay, they “manhandled” his wife and pointed a gun at the head of their 13 year-old daughter. The officers also threatened to shoot the family’s poodle if they didn’t cooporate, and forced the entire houshold to wait outside in front of curious neighbors in their sleeping clothes while they secured the house. Hours later, David Mckay had to take his terrified daughter for treatment to a local hospital after she suffered an asthma attack and fainted during the ordeal.

From the hospital, Mckay said that the whole thing was terrifying and humiliating beyond belief. He told the New York Journal News that they wouldn’t even tell him why they were in his house. The large marijuana sting operation realized their mistake, and the police prepared to leave Mr. Mckays home, and the bewildered family asked them again why they were in thier house and the only answer they got from one officers is “’You’ll read about it in the paper tomorrow.’

A short time later he noticed the police a few houses down on the same side of his street, presumably at the correct address this time. David McKay said he recognized some of teh Spring Valley officers from his work in the community. He has worked for the local sewer department for more than 13 years, he is a foster parent and very involved with community activities. For their part, the Spring Valley police so far have declined to address McKay’s accusations, and they are referring all questions about the raid to the DEA.
 

ddrew

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Pieces of shit

Hold a gun to the kids head, and threaten to shoot the poodle.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Even when these dumb asses get the right addy, raids are just one area where force exceeds the circumstance exponentially. Why are non-violent offenders (the vast majority of domestic growers) treated so violently by law enforcement?

To make the public think we're the bad guy.

Cops have their own damn numbers to support non-terroristic raids.
 
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Classy@Home

Incompetent fucks - everyone knows you shoot the dog first...

Where are the warrants???

Funny, but those pussys never seem to hit hardcore meth labs like that - just rousting families in the middle of the night - guns out, flash, bang, manhandling women and kids, and shooting poodles.

The only deaths from weed are the victims of leo raids - killed for "their own good"...

Ooops - wrong house - you're dead...
 

DiscoBiscuit

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There's a difference between subduing a potential adversary and destroying everything in their path. Just like cops have to justify (don't always do) use of deadly force, they should have to justify this degree of response. Serve the warrant but don't point guns at kid's heads and don't throw grandma to the ground. Common sense.

I hate to say it but several members have documented (civil) raids. Obligatory violence is a civil rights violation.
 

ddrew

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When I got raided they were pretty cool about things, considering I told them to fuck off when they knocked(I didn't believe they had a warrant, turns out they did)
Once they smashed my door(still shut in the frame) open, and stuffed and cuffed me they were fairly decent about things, nothing smashed(besides the door), nobody messed with my dog.
Best part was they didn't find what they were looking for and had to uncuff me and leave.
 

David762

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Typical thuggish LEO behavior. I'm somewhat surprised that they didn't kill the family dog at the onset of their raid. "Deferring all questions to the DEA" indicates who was responsible for this fiasco. The inmates are in charge of the asylum, and they are armed to the teeth. The rule of law is all but dead in this country -- wonder if there will be a wake?

I don't suppose it's possible to sue the new DEA Chief Michelle "jack-booted blackshirt" Leonhart, or Attorney General Eric "lying fascist" Holder, or DHS Chief Janet "Big Stasi Sister" Napolitano?

Fascist mother fuckers, all.
 

headiez247

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man if that was me I would have to exercise some self restraint during that situation.

The second my daughter fainted I prob would of flipped tho.
 

David762

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By every indication, it is LEO themselves ...

By every indication, it is LEO themselves ...

By every indication, it is LEO themselves ... who are the real terrorists. Since 9/11/2001, how many "real" interrupted domestic terrorist acts have occurred that the Feds were not directly involved in, as instigators, enablers, or agents provocateurs? None? Aren't these contrived incidents being used as their justification for a further erosion of our civil rights? I call BS on Drug Czar Gil Kerlickowske's claim that the Feds are not waging a "War Against People", only a war against drugs.

Even when these dumb asses get the right addy, raids are just one area where force exceeds the circumstance exponentially. Why are non-violent offenders (the vast majority of domestic growers) treated so violently by law enforcement?

To make the public think we're the bad guy.

Cops have their own damn numbers to support non-terroristic raids.
 
Fuk Man,
i am so very glad we dont have clowns that operate like that over here,we are fortunate to have reasonabley sensiable laws as well.
Kind Regards, FT...
 

Corpsey

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this is pretty crazy to compare the failed raid in the UK with the guinea pigs.

welcome to the United Shitheads of America
 

Jaymer

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Once the blue just entered this house with warrant and as a majority of the time no-one is around to bust so they just confiscated plants and left a note for the residents This crew was just a little bit harder than meter maids and null swated out, only vests and handguns, 3 or 4 people tops. This was BBC and might not be typical.
 
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CANNATOPIA

Bad news just keeps on coming. I hope his daughter is ok. Very Very sad.
 

hippydan

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Disgusting. Someone should be losing their job over this, it's too bad that the criminals who wear 3 piece suits usually get off free.
 
http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/10/da-issues-report-on-the-eurie

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DA Issues Report on the Eurie Stamps Raid: Cop Who Killed Unarmed, 68-Year-Man Tripped, Accidentally Fired His Gun

Radley Balko | March 10, 2011

I'll have to do some research to find the exact number, but off the top of my head this is at least the eighth time a highly-trained, best-of-the-best SWAT team cop has killed someone by negligently discharging his weapon.

A stumbling Framingham SWAT officer accidentally fired his rifle and shot a beloved grandpa to death as he lay face-down on the floor of his own home, authorities admitted yesterday, sparking incredulous outrage by the 68-year-old retiree’s family...

Officer Paul Duncan, who fired the fatal shot, did so after he tripped during a search of Stamps’ home, according to a report issued yesterday by Middlesex District Attorney Gerard Leone’s office. Duncan will not face charges.

“The actions of Officer Duncan do not rise to the level of criminal conduct, and the shooting death of Eurie Stamps was an accident,” Leone’s office said.

On Jan. 5, police were searching for Stamps’ stepson, Joseph Bushfan, when they served a warrant on Stamps’ home. Bushfan was arrested outside the home, allegedly carrying crack cocaine and money.

Officers then hit the home, throwing a stun grenade and ordering everyone inside to put their hands up and lie on the floor, the report states. Stamps, a grandfather of 12, had obeyed and was lying in the hallway when Duncan attempted to cuff and frisk him.

“As he stepped to his left, (Duncan) lost his balance and began to fall over backwards,” the report states. “Officer Duncan realized that his right foot was off the floor and the tactical equipment that he was wearing was making his movements very awkward. While falling, Officer Duncan removed his left hand from his rifle, which was pointing down towards the ground and put his left arm out to try and catch himself. As he did so, he heard a shot.”

So assuming the report is accurate, all that equipment Duncan was wearing to protect himself from the unarmed Stamps is what caused Duncan to accidentally kill Stamps. If in all the commotion of the raid it was Stamps (who no one suspects was involved in any criminal activity) who accidentally shot and killed Duncan, I don't think there's any doubt he'd be facing a felony charge.

I don't believe Duncan murdered Stamps in cold blood. I do believe he at the very least was negligent with his weapon. And it resulted in someone dying. Like the other cases in which a SWAT cop accidentally killed someone, he's getting a break that regular people don't get, including people who have made honest mistakes in the midst of the same sorts of highly-volatile police raids.

The argument here is not to start putting police in prison for making honest mistakes under incredibly difficult circumstances. The argument is to stop creating those circumstances when it isn't absolutely necessary. Short of that, we're once again left with this: An innocent, unarmed man was shot dead by a cop. But the cop isn't responsible. The victim isn't responsible. And the policies that created the situation aren't responsible. Which means that in a few days, or a few weeks, or a few months, I'm going to be writing all of this again.
 
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