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Obama to hand Commerce Dept. authority over cybersecurity ID

someotherguy

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is it just me or does this make you nervous too?

Obama to hand Commerce Dept. authority over cybersecurity ID

STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.
It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.

That news, first reported by CNET, effectively pushes the department to the forefront of the issue, beating out other potential candidates, including the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security. The move also is likely to please privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.
The announcement came at an event today at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, where U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Schmidt spoke.
The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which Locke said will be released by the president in the next few months. (An early version was publicly released last summer.)
"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."
The Commerce Department will be setting up a national program office to work on this project, Locke said.
Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce. Last year's announcement referenced a possible forthcoming smart card or digital certificate that would prove that online users are who they say they are. These digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.
Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.
Jim Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology, who spoke later at the event, said any Internet ID must be created by the private sector--and also voluntary and competitive.
"The government cannot create that identity infrastructure," Dempsey said. "If it tried to, it wouldn't be trusted."
Inter-agency rivalries to claim authority over cybersecurity have existed ever since many responsibilities were centralized in the Department of Homeland Security as part of its creation nine years ago. Three years ago, proposals were circulating in Washington to transfer authority to the secretive NSA, which is part of the U.S. Defense Department.
In March 2009, Rod Beckström, director of Homeland Security's National Cybersecurity Center, resigned through a letter that gave a rare public glimpse into the competition for budgetary dollars and cybersecurity authority. Beckstrom said at the time that the NSA "effectively controls DHS cyberefforts through detailees, technology insertions," and has proposed moving some functions to the agency's Fort Meade, Md., headquarters.
One of the NSA's missions is, of course, information assurance. But its normally lustrous star in the political firmament has dimmed a bit due to Wikileaks-related revelations.
Bradley Manning, the U.S. Army private who is accused of liberating hundreds of thousands of confidential government documents from military networks and sending them to Wikileaks, apparently joked about the NSA's incompetence in an online chat last spring.
"I even asked the NSA guy if he could find any suspicious activity coming out of local networks," Manning reportedly said in a chat transcript provided by ex-hacker Adrian Lamo. "He shrugged and said, 'It's not a priority.'"
Last updated at 12:20 p.m. PT

 

PoopyTeaBags

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this is disgusting... one more step in the wrong direction of total government control.....
 

resinryder

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Does anyone really expect anything less of our government? Keep on voting for republicans or democrats and it's only gonna get worse. Just one more step in their direction.
 

SOTF420

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Big brother just keeps getting bigger, before you know it we are all gonna be the little sister. Fuck that. :crazy:
 

PoopyTeaBags

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I was told as a boy that i was born a free man in the best country in the world..... i will continue to live this way till im dead or in prison!!! -=P I guide my life on real morals not stupid man made laws...
 

SOTF420

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They totally fucking lied to you bro, sorry. :crazy:
 

PoopyTeaBags

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i found that out a long time ago but like the sheep out there im going to believe my made up reality on this one.... otherwise ill be a scared little girl...
 

ibjamming

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this is disgusting... one more step in the wrong direction of total government control.....

Does anyone really expect anything less of our government? Keep on voting for republicans or democrats and it's only gonna get worse. Just one more step in their direction.

Big brother just keeps getting bigger, before you know it we are all gonna be the little sister. Fuck that. :crazy:

I was told as a boy that i was born a free man in the best country in the world..... i will continue to live this way till im dead or in prison!!! -=P I guide my life on real morals not stupid man made laws...

So what are YOU going to do about it?

Of course they want an "internet ID"...they HATE anonymity...they HATE free speech. They want to know/control everything we do. Freedom is dangerous to them.

I know what you'll do...you'll "teach them a lesson"...next time you'll vote in a Republican! or a Democrat! I got news for you...they're the SAME as far as your liberties go. They both want to take them away.

I was flipping through the channels and hit on Faux News...I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Throw EVERYONE under the bus because of this guy shooting people? No! Do we ban ALL driving because of a few drunk drivers? No! And we shouldn't take away "normal" peoples rights because of a sicko.
 

ddrew

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Sad state of affairs.
One of the great things about the INTERNET is the anonymity.

This country is so slimey
 

ddrew

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One of the NSA's missions is, of course, information assurance. But its normally lustrous star in the political firmament has dimmed a bit due to Wikileaks-related revelations.
That's what I thought this was about, they want to be able to tell who, and where everyone is using the internet, so if someone leaks "secrets" again, they can immediately send the black van out to get them.
Slime Slime Slime
Makes me want to move to Mexico
All the Mexicans are here already, I figure that place has to be getting pretty empty by now, good time to move.
 

someotherguy

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no shit man, this is some fucked up shit!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

peace, SOG
 

Whipit

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I started working in the IT industry 26 years ago. Did anyone think that they were "hiding" here?

How many people have a Facebook page? If you Google your name or email address does it return nothing?

The government is simply taking what it is given. If you don't like it, don't use the Internet. It makes sense to give this to the Commerce Department. I bet that everyone who reads this has made a tax free Internet purchase. In case anyone missed it, we are in debt. Is there a law that prevents anyone from writing a program to assign an ID to everyone it finds using the Internet? Nope. You can do it.

Too much sativa, dude. Try some indica.

I wish that this was the worst thing coming. I will gladly take an Internet ID if I stay warm, eat well and have enough electricity to keep a few KW going every day!

Did anyone expect the government to ignore a source of income forever? If you don't use the Internet, you won't get an Internet ID. If you don't use a phone, you won't get a phone number. If you don't have a house, you won't get an address . . .
 

ddrew

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Did anyone expect the government to ignore a source of income forever? . .
Well they have been ignoring to the point of locking people up the massive source of potential income that is MJ for 90 years now.
In fact, not only are they ignoring the potential revenue from it, they are wasting billions a year on a pointless war against it.

We are about as free as a hamster in a cage, whose every move can be observed 24/7 by its owner.
 
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someotherguy

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I started working in the IT industry 26 years ago. Did anyone think that they were "hiding" here?

How many people have a Facebook page? If you Google your name or email address does it return nothing?

The government is simply taking what it is given. If you don't like it, don't use the Internet. It makes sense to give this to the Commerce Department. I bet that everyone who reads this has made a tax free Internet purchase. In case anyone missed it, we are in debt. Is there a law that prevents anyone from writing a program to assign an ID to everyone it finds using the Internet? Nope. You can do it.

Too much sativa, dude. Try some indica.

I wish that this was the worst thing coming. I will gladly take an Internet ID if I stay warm, eat well and have enough electricity to keep a few KW going every day!

Did anyone expect the government to ignore a source of income forever? If you don't use the Internet, you won't get an Internet ID. If you don't use a phone, you won't get a phone number. If you don't have a house, you won't get an address . . .

thanks for sharing your insight and setting us all straight.
 
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Whipit

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Well they have been ignoring to the point of locking people up the massive source of potential income that is MJ for 90 years now.
In fact, not only are they ignoring the potential revenue from it, they are wasting billions a year on a pointless war against it.

We are about as free as a hamster in a cage, whose every move can be observed 24/7 by its owner.

The "War on Drugs" feeds the system. You choose to look at it in the sensible way. Nonsense dictates that you employ thousands of narcotics agents around the world, thousands of police in the U.S., thousands of corrections officers, thousands of parole agents, thousands of counselors . . . on the taxpayer's dollar. Those employees give back to the system.

This is the way that it is. Change now quickly and you threaten the system. It's a catch-22. As soon as the government can assure that revenue will increase under a legal marijuana system, it will be so. I'm growing legally and never expected that in my lifetime. I've started a small business and pay taxes. Let's hope that they catch on!
 

Whipit

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i think it's pretty funny how some people wanna jump right up and volunteer for the whipping from masta. good slave, good slave..

I think that it's pretty sad that some folks don't know when to use capital letters. Bad student, bad student.

Are they forcing you to use the Internet? What if I already know what your ID is? I could find it with your IP address, or your MAC address.

How paranoid are we?
 
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