how can i tell how much direct sunlight an area gets without beig there all day

[jessethestoner]

so i'm getting ready for my first outdoor grow and i have a few spots i mind with a few majorly hidden growing spots and i was wondering if there was a method or device that can help me see how much sunlight an area gets in a day without me having to be there all day or get a camera to record it. ideally i'd like it to be cheap so i can use my budget for more seeds as i'm only using bag-seed but i already have almost everything else i'll need so far and could afford to spend some cash
and any suggestions for cheap outdoor seeds good at 53 degrees north
would be appreciated

 

[fisher15]

how can i tell how much direct sunlight an area gets without beig there all day

Check out the iPhone app- Solmetric iPV. It's just what you need.

 

[GanjaPharma]

theres a gadget called a sun-calc. leave it in place for 12 hours, and it gives you an average reading.

you are getting an early start! in the us 53 degrees is alaska lol!
o course Ireland/uk is prolly that high up on the sphere.

 

[jessethestoner]

GanjaPharma- thanks could i get it at department stores, hardware,gardening stores?
What can i say i'm excited at having a od grow ad ideally a breeding patch and ya i'm just south of the middle of alberta so i could be in a better spot forsure, but what can you do?

fisher15- i'm ipod stupid would that app work on a ipod touch?

 

[Shred42O]

it should with wifi

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Hey jessethestoner i

Its just my opinion, but youve just asked the most important question an outdoor grower, especially a guerilla grower, can ask. Its the first question i ask when i find a grow spot is "where is the track of the sun"? Its critical to know the suns path across your sky in late september. Thats the sunshine that will build your buds.

Alls that you need is a compass. If you are in the northern lats, the sun rises in the southeast and sets in the southwest. As the season progressess, the sun rises lower in the southeast and tracks much lower across the sky. Ive seen grows planted in full sun in may, but because the sun drops in the southern sky, by september, the plants were in the shade.

My suggestion is to go get yourself a compass and tommorow, record the location of the rising and setting sun. Record the track again in Feburary and then in may. Just looking at the 3 entries will reveal the path of the sun across your sky for the entire year.

That info will let you know how many hours you'll get the whole season, which constantly changes.

 

[idiit]

i'm also an od farmer. your question is essential to ask and get correct on. the sun moves in an elliptical orbit across a globular surface (earth). if u actually use a device to read lumens in your spot then great. if not u must start noticing where the sun is early am and late afternoon in your area. to me the sun seems to rise up in the sky as approaching the longer days and overall lowers in the sky as approaching shorter days. (hard to drive in the winter with low sun glare). the angle of the sun changes but the elliptical orbit stays pretty much the same. this is not something to argue about. it is something to get exactly correct for ur area and is a very common fatal noob mistake because the sun does change its direct line of fire throughout the year. having to hide ur babies and still subject them to full intense lumens is an art that must be mastered for successful od grows. pay attention to how it moves in your area throughout the year either with technology or your own eyes.

 

[yortbogey]

Hey jessethestoner i

Its just my opinion, but youve just asked the most important question an outdoor grower, especially a guerilla grower, can ask. Its the first question i ask when i find a grow spot is "where is the track of the sun"? Its critical to know the suns path across your sky in late september. Thats the sunshine that will build your buds.

Alls that you need is a compass. If you are in the northern lats, the sun rises in the southeast and sets in the southwest. As the season progressess, the sun rises lower in the southeast and tracks much lower across the sky. Ive seen grows planted in full sun in may, but because the sun drops in the southern sky, by september, the plants were in the shade.

My suggestion is to go get yourself a compass and tommorow, record the location of the rising and setting sun. Record the track again in Feburary and then in may. Just looking at the 3 entries will reveal the path of the sun across your sky for the entire year.

That info will let you know how many hours you'll get the whole season, which constantly changes.

Dude..........impressive .....indeed..........U know U'r schitt.......

 

[Ickis]

SunCalc is here....

http://www.burpee.com/gardening-sup...lator)-prod001315.html?catId=cat230002&trail=

 

[Leroy Brown]

Two things new growers often overlook that haven't been mentioned - 1st is that what gets full sun in winter/early spring can easily get none in the summer if you forgot that the tree branches filled in with leaves, lol. The second is that your eyes are at least 5' off the ground, but your plants will only be 5" off the ground at the beginning, so lay down on your back where you are thinking of planting and see how much southern exposure you get then.

I also recommend getting ballsy & putting some in a spot that is way to out in the open, I had teenagers this summer hiding behind one of my plants while playing paintball, nose must have been less than 6" from a flowering plant She made it I had another spot where random people would walk within 20 feet of a patch, in plain site, at least once a week all summer. Most people don't focus on the types of flora & fauna when they are walking, they are looking at where they are going.

 

[jessethestoner]

D.S. Toker. MD thank you i took your advice and am going to record the suns position

ickis and i'll also use the device or something like it you linked thanks

Leroy Brown thank you for the advice i was planning to get relatively ballsy in where they are. The only thing i haven't figured out is whether i should do patches of 3 or less or 3 or more plants

 

[ghost of sage]

When I find a spot I point one hand at about 215 east and the other at about 265 west and then I follow an invisible path with my eyes overhead from where the left hand is pointing to where the right hand is pointing.If it is clear from straight over head to about a 45* angle in front of you,you will be pleased with the results.

 

[Leroy Brown]

D.S. Toker. MD thank you i took your advice and am going to record the suns position

ickis and i'll also use the device or something like it you linked thanks

Leroy Brown thank you for the advice i was planning to get relatively ballsy in where they are. The only thing i haven't figured out is whether i should do patches of 3 or less or 3 or more plants

It really depends on the spot how much it can handle, but try to put out way more than you would ever think you will need. You will lose many plants your first go, it's just like indoors where you have to 'dial it in' except outdoors it's more about figuring out what you need to protect for, I have some spots that I can't grow in unless I cage the shit out of them against deer, others need early stuff because of mold, short stuff so it doesn't get seen, etc etc. Just be prepared to lose a lot more than you expected. Makes a big difference if you are seed or clone as well, outdoors bad spots (Environment wise) will be filled with males & herms and your awesome plants will usually turn out fem.