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pokergod

pokergod

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swordfish said:
dude your missing out big time!!! The new ballast are super reliable and are backed with warranty. Your missing out on alot of light, not to mention with the new dimmers all you need are 1k watters. I love digital and electronics
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Actually, I'm doing better sticking to old reliable then trying new technology that hasn't been perfected yet. Being dimmable is not an option I need. I want more lumens not less. I rather not listen to "Rattle and Hum" of the bulbs, if I did, I would listen to U2 instead. RF problem still not fixed. Security is paramount, not worth it for a slight potential gain in lumens and an miniscule savings in electricity. FYI, a fellow ICMAG member returned his new SAD ASS ballasts.
 
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ganjaments

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pokergod said:
Actually, I'm doing better sticking to old reliable then trying new technology that hasn't been perfected yet.
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Digitals have been around for like 5 years now.. How much longer are you going to wait?

Have you tried digital? If not, how do you know you're doing better without?

pokergod said:
I want more lumens not less.
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Digital has more

pokergod said:
I rather not listen to "Rattle and Hum" of the bulbs, if I did, I would listen to U2 instead.
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Magnetic ballasts rattle & hum louder than any bulb. Digital ballasts are silent.


pokergod said:
FYI, a fellow ICMAG member returned his new SAD ASS ballasts.
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Just to be clear, I don't think I would ever buy one of these particular ballasts. But if it came down to it, I would buy any digital over any magnetic.
 
Snagglepuss

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ganjaments said:
Digitals have been around for like 5 years now.. How much longer are you going to wait?

Have you tried digital? If not, how do you know you're doing better without?


Digital has more


Magnetic ballasts rattle & hum louder than any bulb. Digital ballasts are silent.




Just to be clear, I don't think I would ever buy one of these particular ballasts. But if it came down to it, I would buy any digital over any magnetic.
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There's also a part in mag ballasts that needs to be replaced after a few years,"the coil "? i think....As this part wears ,it can still work ,but it not at 100% dimminishing the output effectiveness...this is what i have read ........Im a galaxy person for life,,,,:artist:
 
pokergod

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Snagglepuss said:
There's also a part in mag ballasts that needs to be replaced after a few years,"the coil "? i think....As this part wears ,it can still work ,but it not at 100% dimminishing the output effectiveness...this is what i have read ........Im a galaxy person for life,,,,:artist:
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I believe you are talking about the capacitor and the igniter.
 
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swordfish

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pokergod said:
Actually, I'm doing better sticking to old reliable then trying new technology that hasn't been perfected yet. Being dimmable is not an option I need. I want more lumens not less. I rather not listen to "Rattle and Hum" of the bulbs, if I did, I would listen to U2 instead. RF problem still not fixed. Security is paramount, not worth it for a slight potential gain in lumens and an miniscule savings in electricity. FYI, a fellow ICMAG member returned his new SAD ASS ballasts.
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I dont care to debate brands, i was just giving you an opinion after trying and using many magnetic, electronic, and digital ballasts. Your misinformed about the new technolgy, im not steering you wrong. If your happy wih mags stick with them, but dont bash something you never tried or used.
 
couchlockd

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i have had a ushio 600 hps running fine in the future brite so far no problems at all, as were all bulbs ran in that ballast, cept for the hortilux after god know how many time it tried to "hot start" after a brief power interuption, and i couldnt get to my keys in time ot unlock the garden to unplug the ballast. :(

to they make a device you pluug your lights into that is a timer but will not allow a start immediatly after a outage, like a 10-15 minute "cool down" period?
 
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couchlockd said:
i have had a ushio 600 hps running fine in the future brite so far no problems at all, as were all bulbs ran in that ballast, cept for the hortilux after god know how many time it tried to "hot start" after a brief power interuption, and i couldnt get to my keys in time ot unlock the garden to unplug the ballast. :(

to they make a device you pluug your lights into that is a timer but will not allow a start immediatly after a outage, like a 10-15 minute "cool down" period?
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You would have to turn the ballasts on with a relay that is hooked up to a Delay On Make timer http://www.omega.ca/shop/pptsc.asp?ref=TD-69
 
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Bud Bug

ganjaments said:
Actually C.A.P makes a unit that is ready to go (here).
They also make one that has a high temp shutoff built in (here).
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The delay timer would be ok but the heat shut off should have manual reset. First you don't want the lights to keep coming of and on, of and on etc... Second you don't want them coming back on as you don't know that is causing the heat build up.

If you need a heat hill for a ballast or a relay powered board the MASTER timer works great with a manual high temp restart and a user adjusted light restart delay.
http://grow-gps.com/?page_id=21
 
Snagglepuss

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Ive searched the net,and haven't been able to find 1 person with these badass ballasts.If anyone has one or gets one .Please post pics ,and ome info on your thoughts
 
Snagglepuss

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The Diablo model starts shipping next month,to the shops.......





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303hydro

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Cannarado said:
What makes something "The Standard". And why is whats "Standard" whats best? Ever researched marine aquariums? Lumatek has become a standard - Every shop in my town swares by them. If im running a business with 100 ballast - with the increase in cost im sure not going to run out and buy all new electronics. But again... those in my town that dont run greenhouses are running digital, or slowly switching over. With 3x the bulb life and often 5-10% less energy - at the commercial level, the littlest thing becomes the biggest gain/loss...
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If your a business running 100 ballasts, I think the actual reliability is gonna be more important than watts used. A 3 year warranty doesn't do shit for ya if you have 18 ballasts burn out on you. ( Even if your supplier delivers the replacements to your door, it is still the ultimate pain in the ass........I'm only saying that at this point the coil and core ballast is more reliable . Of course this is my opinion.

Also in another thread you mentioned that Lumateks and Hortilux aren't compatible? Think that has changed man, I got a buddy who is running over 50 units of 1000w Lumateks w/ Super HPS Bulbs- Not a single issue since day 1.
 
Azeotrope

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Aerohead - If they are no higher than 400hz square wave than they would be safe to try on CMH. Ultimately around 166hz (140 - 200hz) is ideal to avoid excessive resonance. I have a MetroLight E-ballast running at just under 400hz Square wave form output and it is OK with a 150w Philips CMH. A little roll in the arc for the first 10minutes after start....

On another note: If it says Advanced on it you can bet your paying way more than it is worth. Just like with their nutes and all the snake oil additives they sell!!!! Gotta give them credit for marketing to the suckers and lazy asses!

Oh - yes I have run their nutes with good results. Only because I know what I'm doing. I get good and even better results with nutes that cost a very small % of what Advance screws people out of.
 
homebrew420

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first off, I am kind of a hater of AN. However I will give them credit for making a fairly good product, it produces big yields. So do most other products on the market. The name seems like the DumbAss choice. Any product called Badass is stupid. I dont believe that the "digi" revolution has come yet. As an electrician I have seen more electronic ballasts blow out prematurely than any mag. Period. digis are not the standard by any stretch of the imagination. Industry dictates standards, not us lowly consumers of hydro products. 303 said it, industry is looking for reliability over saving 3% on energy. that savings is eaten up when something needs replacing.
To be fair to the digis many friends of mine are sing and loving these things. I dont trust them. They are still working on the what maybe the 5th gen, which I think is questionable. I doubt they have made technological improvements every year. These companies dont seem to care. And btw the e-ballasts that we changed out where T5 high-bays. They have been available to industry for many years with multiple technological advancement. Still failing prematurely.

Just my 2 cents.
Azeotrope that is cool to here you are running a CMH on a dig. I run one on conversion HPS and like them alot. Was not aware that was possible outside a pulse-start ballast
 
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My Galaxy 600w Digital causes no interference. Constant read PH/EC/Temp meter, Wifi, radio, cell phone, etc all right next to it without issue. It works a treat!

Also, it works with generators and handles power-outs. If the power goes off it waits 10 minutes before turning the bulb back on. It also does a slow ramp up when turning on. This thing is slick.

Been using it for about 8 months.
 
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