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luvtogrow

Active member
Just grew Mr Nice SSH, Medman and GHS lemonskunk. The Mr Nice medman hermied, the indica pheno of the 3 phenos. Lemonskunk is the most potent of the three strains. Have grown ssh from seed for a while and had all the phenos. the originator of this thread was kinda complaining about too many phenos with a strain, then stay away from Mr Nice too!! They actually breed in diversity!! Need to pick a stable strain if that's what you want, the 3 i just grew all have multiple phenos.
Many complaints about GHS that i read, sound more like grower type problems, especially germination, the seeds are cheap and you can afford a couple no germs can't you? I found the germ rate excellent, again about Mr Nice, had whole packs that would not germ. He replaced, but what a hassle!!
 

silverhazefiend

"Aint no love in the heart of the city"
Veteran
Just grew Mr Nice SSH, Medman and GHS lemonskunk. The Mr Nice medman hermied, the indica pheno of the 3 phenos. Lemonskunk is the most potent of the three strains. Have grown ssh from seed for a while and had all the phenos. the originator of this thread was kinda complaining about too many phenos with a strain, then stay away from Mr Nice too!! They actually breed in diversity!! Need to pick a stable strain if that's what you want, the 3 i just grew all have multiple phenos.
Many complaints about GHS that i read, sound more like grower type problems, especially germination, the seeds are cheap and you can afford a couple no germs can't you? I found the germ rate excellent, again about Mr Nice, had whole packs that would not germ. He replaced, but what a hassle!!

Ur saying lemon skunk is stronger than SSH ..smh...To each his own ..The problems with GHS are all over ..Grower error and SELLER error ...Its not that they have phenos all over the place cause they dont ..the bubbas seemed pretty uniformed 2 me..The problem is U DONT KNO what u have ...There bait and switch tactics ..THATS GHS problem ..When i first got into "weed" I wanted all of the GHS strains ..Now that im older and more sensible i prefer 2 stay away from things that arent 95-100% validated ..with so many other top notch breeders why would i even bother ?? bc there selling them cheap??

Im not gonna buy a pair of cheaper tennis shoes because they MIGHT have the support i need..when i could easily spend 20-30 more bucks and get my tennis shoes that already went tru R&D and are PROVEN winners

p.s....Somebody said GHS created Bubba..I think it was apothercary that created that and the kia kush...But ghs is in control of those 2 lines ..I can kinda see where people jus read things and repeat them

theres 2 bubbas in there ..coulndt get more uniform from seed than that ...not one single herm ..all 3 gallon bags btw
 

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goldengolly

only grew from greenhouse twice -simultaneously with 2 packs of 5 fems--white widow and rhino..nine sprouted so i was happy and no hermies what soever..not one seed in whole harvest...now this was first time growing but i lived in holland so was experienced with good quality weed...i harvested really good stuff even though i pulled 1 week early from stated times...considering most people say add on a week or start timing after flowers develop i was potentially weeks early...the widow was great every 1 loved it..though i hated the rhino--yhea strong just not my thing indica but glad i tried one so know what they feel like...it was like black dispondency...like valium dull though worse...i was happerier of it than on..music was not good -nothing was...though maybe it would be better if let run more....but i think i just dont get indicas.....i have no complaints about greenhouse seeds and the whole ajan hate thing is a nonesense (well maybe if they do lie about strains they shouldnt but i think they r all at it in one way r other)...and the super lemon thing seems to be great coming from all quaters....
 

silverhazefiend

"Aint no love in the heart of the city"
Veteran
only grew from greenhouse twice -simultaneously with 2 packs of 5 fems--white widow and rhino..nine sprouted so i was happy and no hermies what soever..not one seed in whole harvest...now this was first time growing but i lived in holland so was experienced with good quality weed...i harvested really good stuff even though i pulled 1 week early from stated times...considering most people say add on a week or start timing after flowers develop i was potentially weeks early...the widow was great every 1 loved it..though i hated the rhino--yhea strong just not my thing indica but glad i tried one so know what they feel like...it was like black dispondency...like valium dull though worse...i was happerier of it than on..music was not good -nothing was...though maybe it would be better if let run more....but i think i just dont get indicas.....i have no complaints about greenhouse seeds and the whole ajan hate thing is a nonesense (well maybe if they do lie about strains they shouldnt but i think they r all at it in one way r other)...and the super lemon thing seems to be great coming from all quaters....


ALL caps bro really? smh..I feel like im going blind
 
Keep an eye on your bubbas. 3/5 of mine decided to pop pollen sacks at 5 weeks flowering. 2 were immediatly culled, the third... I will be checking daily as it looks awesome and dont want to kill it.

Growing along side these bubbas are 4 violater kush phenos, 4 vanilla kush phenos, 1 chocolope, 3 super lemon haze phenos along with strains I have run for many years. No hermies at all, nothing but straight up dank.(as was the bubba till male flowers)

IMO 3/5 hermies=unstable

BTW I love the gh lemon haze and trainwreck, straight up some of my fav smoke so I am very dissapointed with my gh bubbas.
 
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goldengolly

mmmm- 'going blind' whoa what relentless dedication to text etiquette ---thats rock and roll folks----am surprised your geeks orbs are so affected-you sound like the type thats sitting inside on the computer wearing dark shades-----mmmmm-'BRO'
 

silverhazefiend

"Aint no love in the heart of the city"
Veteran
mmmm- 'going blind' whoa what relentless dedication to text etiquette ---thats rock and roll folks----am surprised your geeks orbs are so affected-you sound like the type thats sitting inside on the computer wearing dark shades-----mmmmm-'BRO'

Are u serious im not even gonna respond ...u came in a thread and typed a paragraph in caps...Font 500...smh...U must be going blind ..and as far as being a BRO i am ONE ...literally...Yea and these shades are Gucci...nuff said

starwatcher-I finished that grow..Not one herm...although i did get a tiny seed in the 91 chemdawg ..I put those things tru hell and not one herm..
 

KharmaGirl

~Resident Puck Bunny~
Veteran
Just FYI and to clear something up....on the internet, using all caps is considered yelling ;) Be kind, some people don't know.
 

silverhazefiend

"Aint no love in the heart of the city"
Veteran
Just FYI and to clear something up....on the internet, using all caps is considered yelling ;) Be kind, some people don't know.

I didnt realize he was new ..I made a lil jk about going blind ..i didnt kno he was gonna get offended ...Ur right tho..ill try 2 use my patience next time
 
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goldengolly

right nuff said --i actually liked your little quib...i am not offended---in the grand scheme of crimes i dont take offence to caplocks jokes......and thanks karma girl for coming to the rescue ...you r a good mod lol......bet you r sexy....
 

DainBramage

New member
You cant sling a dead cat and not hit somebody claiming to have developed WW and a bunch of other strains. I dont care who made it. Americans invented the TV, but the japanese made it what it is today.

Ive grown several GH strains: some were good, some not so much but its that way with any seed company. I feel they have a postive impact on the seed business. Theyve influenced femminization, providing elite cuts, marketing, pricing, availability and to some extent, humilty.
I think many of the famous breeders have come to beilieve what their customers say about them and theyve gotten the big head. They may be good breeders, but they lack the business smarts to keep product on the shelf. Arjan could take most of them to business school and teach them a thing or 2 about product availabilty. The top breeders are "out of stock", but as i understand it, Arjan sells more seeds than they do so i wish they would quit basking in admiration and make some seeds......
he also out source's the breeding of his seed's no quality control at all,sure any one can keep seed's in stock if they do not care about how good they are.The only thing he could show other breeder's is that hype sells seed's,winning(or buying them as some have said and haveing been to a few I would agree)cup's dose not mean you are selling good genetic's.They often rush stains to market to cash in on the latest trend of the month it seem's .While other breeders spend years developing and stabilizing a strain money hungry self hyping arjan and franko can put them out by the dozen each month.The fact is they do not get a lot of return customer's and that say's a lot.They used to be a big fish in a small pond of seed merchant's,but now they are a bloated fish in a big sea of breeder's,some who rather be out of stock then to sell inferior genetic's.So to the so called STRAIN HUNTER'S..lol...stop looking for new strains and fix the one's you are dumping on the market.:wave::moon:
 

angel4us

Active member
ICMag Donor
tried popping two-five packs and ended up with zero??? i thought it strange??? actually thought mail got zapped?????
 

funkymonkey

Member
You cant sling a dead cat and not hit somebody claiming to have developed WW and a bunch of other strains. I dont care who made it. Americans invented the TV, but the japanese made it what it is today.

Ahem, TV was invented in Britain by John Logie Baird, the first two working TV systems were Baird's and Marconi's in Britain although Nazi Germany was the first to start public broadcasts. The US didn't have TV until after WW2 whereas there were broadcasts in the late 30s in Britain and Germany. Philo T Farnsworth, an American, did come up with a working theory for electronic television but he can't be said to have invented TV.

Also, the key improvements in TV design were actually British and Dutch developments, the Sony Trinitron tube was a Japanese development but it was actually Phillip's aperture design developed in Holland that became the industry standard and Trinitron stayed a Sony-only thing and was no good for large displays.

So I don't agree that TV was a US invention and the Japs moved it on, what the Japs did was develop lean efficient manufacturing at a time when workers in the west were on strike half the time and doing bad quality work when they actually did any work.

I know it's off-topic but it annoys me when Yanks claim they invented everything.
 

erbium

Active member
Utter rubbish. Shanti worked at Greenhouse when White Widow was developed, opinions vary on if he was even the originator, many say it was actually from Ingemarr. Whatever, it matters not, Shanti split from Arjan, formed MrNice seeds, part of the deal was that Arjan kept the "Brand Names" so Shanti at MrNice agreed to rename them. Arjan/GHS has all the legit original mother stock despite many lies spread by people and sheep online, who think they are somehow "doing the right thing"

This year I have grown out and watched several friends grow out packs of GHS seeds, all outdoors, this is what happened....

Trainwreck, 100% germ, no problems, vigorous dank plants, very consistent for a S1 Fem.

Lemon Skunk, 100% germ, no problems with Hermies, but seems a little Nute sensitive compared to the others, utterly dank freaky buds, cant wait to try.

SLH, 100% germ, 2/3 good, one sickly, but almost certainly grower error [me]

Bubba Kush, 100% germ, no problems at all, really strong plant, amazing smell, days away from cropping.

Indica Mix Colour coded pack, poor germ, but may well be grower error [me, again...] most gifted away, but have a Church, late into flower and not exciting me much, so far...

Without getting into any BS or mudslinging, I also have/see some very expensive funky strains running this year from other, well respected breeders that are not doing as well, or looking/smelling as funky as the GHS strains that cost 1/5th the money.

DNA strains can be good, but the one I ran had approx 50% show up as runts [split between 3 locations, outdoors] ... but the good plants are great.

Bull shit.

Look at any Mr Nice vs GH comparison grows and you will see they aren't working with the same stock.

Mr Nice = quality
GH = herb for people who don't really like marijuana or getting too high.
 

DocLeaf

procreationist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Anyone into the scene back then will remember that,, for a least a year, (c2000-1 approx.) many Greenhouse varieties had x2 names at point of sale

e.g. El Nino / Godzilla ,, White Rhino / Medicine Man,, and so on.

All before MSN seeds were available at retail... and the subsequent MSN name changes.

Hope this helps
 

REZDOG

Active member
Veteran
Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....

GHS has some valid P1 Stock.
The Problem Is: Arjan INSISTS on doing his "fortified STS" feminized-seed-thing with all of them-and essentially NONE of them seem to like it. I've smoked his "Bubba Kush" clone,and IMO it's actually 100% legit. But,most people know that Bubba doesn't fem well-it was tried on the 'boards years back-and reversed,same as Arjan's offering does,to about 80%.... Like Arjan's does.
Arjan also bought a "'91 Chemdog" clone from Apothecary-I don't know if it's legit,but I told him @ lunch that STS'd Chemdog progeny would make for reversing,crappy seeds. As you can see,I was right-GHS hasn't released femmd "chem dog" after having "their" clone for well over a year and a half-I assume because they either couldn't force enough valid pollen from their clone,or that the progeny were,as I said they would be-crap.
That said,if Arjan would get back to natural,M/F seeds and producing hybrids of the same,he'd be doing the community a hell of a lot bigger favor than his color-coated,genetic egg-scramble of a seed line is now.



~RD~
 

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