destroying legends
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jamesbrownghost
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What's an IBL?
Growbrass
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How far can you back cross or inbred until you get a 'legend' or a true representation of a 'perfect' and completely unique strain? No one seed is absolutely pure is it?...or when is it? Who or what decides?
I dont think mixing and matching traits to create a killer strain is destroying anything.
It's totally constructive...even if it simply suits your product of choice.
I dont think mixing and matching traits to create a killer strain is destroying anything.
It's totally constructive...even if it simply suits your product of choice.
deidree barlow
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You mean take the genetics backwards how far back on 1st strain and how far back when the widow hAS been cross bred 10 times Some of the best dope ever to grow is being killed out,Like i say Fuck with nature and she will fuck with you,with a force youve seen nothing like and never will again i wouldnt think goin backwards could not do as its genetics should be a totally different way =you wont get the same genetics just a theory deidree
White Widow is a hgybrid and the result of crossing distinct & distant strains, it's hardly a pure strain itself and highly variable. I think your intentions are good here but your knowledge is very limited. White Widow for one is still readily available from several sources.
If you truly care about preservation and want to have reliable seed stock for many future generations then the right path is to collect the most landrace strains you can along with stable IBL's as mentioned by several posters in this thread.
If you truly care about preservation and want to have reliable seed stock for many future generations then the right path is to collect the most landrace strains you can along with stable IBL's as mentioned by several posters in this thread.
deidree barlow
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i am not complaing i am looking for opinions thats all you obviously havent the concept to think that far ahead
I remember the first time I smoked some nice IBL afghani. I got in Fort Walton beach Florida. The buds were dried with the smaller indica leaves on because they were frosty as hell. it was well cured so the color was like khaki green. The leaves were so wide they acted as a frosty cocoon that I had to peal away. it revealed these redish orange frosty nugs that smelled piny and floral. dense like a stone. to this day I still regard this stuff as top notch gear. The high was Euphoric and dreamy. I was in a hotel with a beach view too, it was nice. Walked down to the beach and burned one at dusk. It was great.
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Iron_Lion
The Road Kill Skunk (RKS) genes are still found in various bags of good green brickweed from Mexico
Your right about that RKS is hiding out in mexico, i got a bag of brick mids a few years ago and it smelled like straight up skunk ass. I put it in the console in my car and could still smell it, bud quality wasnt that good tho it was some pretty beat up herb.
Some times I wonder tho if them beaners just spray shitty weed with skunk smell. I know you can buy bottled skunk smell which may account for what alot of people think is a legit skunk from shady sources.
I think to release the RKS back to the world would make said person a millionaire.
it may have been bad news for growers back in the day but now with the med scene and peeps growing legit I think it would be no big deal plus odor filtration has come a long way.
I bought the Pure a few years ago and hoped to get something stinky I ended up getting sweet smelling heavy sativa leaning plants and a muddy retard inducing high, not what I was looking for. I also ran reserva privada Really Killer Skunk and nothing skunky about that one either.
Hybridization is inevitable. Many land race strains are difficult to grow indoors, or in areas with differing climates. Equatorial Sativas are a good example. Hybridizing them allows for cultivation, while still retaining some of the qualities that made them attractive in the 1st place.
Hybridization can also improve potency. Often, hybrids are more potent than either parent strain.
Hybridization allows us to increase yield, shorten flowering times and improve potency. It is a valuable tool and should not be looked at as a detriment.
Humans have grown cannabis for an estimated 12,000 years. In that time, we have altered its form by selection and introduction to different climates and environments. Hybridization was a logical step in cannabis evolution.
While various hybrids come and go, their popularity rising and falling as newer hybrids come along to take their place, they never really disappear. People still hold cuts or seeds of hybrids no longer in the mainstream. Original genetics still exists in their land of origin. Hybrids can be re-created.
We as a species can't leave well enough alone. We always attempt to make things better. Sometimes it doesn't turn out well, but usually we improve things. We wouldn't have corn or wheat as we know them now, or various other fruits and vegetables if we didn't select and hybridize them. The same goes for cannabis.
I think things will work out fine. We have not reached the pinnacle of cannabis cultivation, and its decline is not on the horizon yet.
Hybridization can also improve potency. Often, hybrids are more potent than either parent strain.
Hybridization allows us to increase yield, shorten flowering times and improve potency. It is a valuable tool and should not be looked at as a detriment.
Humans have grown cannabis for an estimated 12,000 years. In that time, we have altered its form by selection and introduction to different climates and environments. Hybridization was a logical step in cannabis evolution.
While various hybrids come and go, their popularity rising and falling as newer hybrids come along to take their place, they never really disappear. People still hold cuts or seeds of hybrids no longer in the mainstream. Original genetics still exists in their land of origin. Hybrids can be re-created.
We as a species can't leave well enough alone. We always attempt to make things better. Sometimes it doesn't turn out well, but usually we improve things. We wouldn't have corn or wheat as we know them now, or various other fruits and vegetables if we didn't select and hybridize them. The same goes for cannabis.
I think things will work out fine. We have not reached the pinnacle of cannabis cultivation, and its decline is not on the horizon yet.
deidree barlow
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You are quite right in limited knowledge,but thanks for that interestin post is very interestin,Deidree BarlowWhite Widow is a hgybrid and the result of crossing distinct & distant strains, it's hardly a pure strain itself and highly variable. I think your intentions are good here but your knowledge is very limited. White Widow for one is still readily available from several sources.
If you truly care about preservation and want to have reliable seed stock for many future generations then the right path is to collect the most landrace strains you can along with stable IBL's as mentioned by several posters in this thread.
Here is what you should put on your list to collect first:
Pure Hindu Kush
Pure Afghani
Any Pure Indica's (like Tom Hill's Deep Chunk)
South American Sativa's
African Sativa's
ALL landraces from Asia
Thai (Gypsy has these pure)
Skunk #1
Northern Lights
Bubblegum
Blueberry
Hazes (Tom Hill's is a good choice)
Lowryder #1 (for future breeding purposes)
Hemp strains if at all possible for fiber/seed production
and last but not least,
Sweet Tooth from Spice of Life Seeds
With this collection just about anything is possible breeding and preservation wise.
Pure Hindu Kush
Pure Afghani
Any Pure Indica's (like Tom Hill's Deep Chunk)
South American Sativa's
African Sativa's
ALL landraces from Asia
Thai (Gypsy has these pure)
Skunk #1
Northern Lights
Bubblegum
Blueberry
Hazes (Tom Hill's is a good choice)
Lowryder #1 (for future breeding purposes)
Hemp strains if at all possible for fiber/seed production
and last but not least,
Sweet Tooth from Spice of Life Seeds
With this collection just about anything is possible breeding and preservation wise.
deidree barlow
Member
many thanks for taking the trouble to reply,thats most kind of you,Deidree
Huggie bear
Active member
Here is what you should put on your list to collect first:
Pure Hindu Kush
Pure Afghani
Any Pure Indica's (like Tom Hill's Deep Chunk)
South American Sativa's
African Sativa's
ALL landraces from Asia
Thai (Gypsy has these pure)
Skunk #1
Northern Lights
Bubblegum
Blueberry
Hazes (Tom Hill's is a good choice)
Lowryder #1 (for future breeding purposes)
Hemp strains if at all possible for fiber/seed production
and last but not least,
Sweet Tooth from Spice of Life Seeds
With this collection just about anything is possible breeding and preservation wise.
WHat breeder has true northern lights? I know of guy in upstate NY that has been growing hi NL for as long as I have been smoking but I am not sure if he is any more so I cant depend on that source. Does anyone one on our seedboo carry a true NL?
I still remember my first encounter with NL to this day, nothing yet has made me feel that way I loved it!
PicosPoisonftw!
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*hybridizing
Here is what you should put on your list to collect first:
Pure Hindu Kush
Pure Afghani
Any Pure Indica's (like Tom Hill's Deep Chunk)
South American Sativa's
African Sativa's
ALL landraces from Asia
Thai (Gypsy has these pure)
Skunk #1
Northern Lights
Bubblegum
Blueberry
Hazes (Tom Hill's is a good choice)
Lowryder #1 (for future breeding purposes)
Hemp strains if at all possible for fiber/seed production
and last but not least,
Sweet Tooth from Spice of Life Seeds
With this collection just about anything is possible breeding and preservation wise.
Im using ur list..ive gotten some of them in the past few months already ..direct me in a good direction for NL5..pure hindu kush..and blueberry...theres so many blueberry out there ..i kno DJ short is the man tho...
For NL, Sensi is really your best bet and they are not cheap but as pure as you are gonna get really for the #5. The Dutch Passion version (#2 or Oasis) is far more sativa leaning, Nirvana has a pretty good version or at least used to not sure about new stock but guessing it's continually inbred and it was based off of Sensi's old NL#5 line. Dr. Atomic has a nice NL hybrid that alot of people love as well. The Joey dude has some as well.
Hindu Kush from Sensi Seeds if possible, Chrome had some incrosses based on these that's what I have personally but not sure about their current availability.
For the genuine Blueberry, DJ Short all the way no question about it. True Blueberry also from him is worth picking up if you can stash a pack or two away for a rainy day.
Hindu Kush from Sensi Seeds if possible, Chrome had some incrosses based on these that's what I have personally but not sure about their current availability.
For the genuine Blueberry, DJ Short all the way no question about it. True Blueberry also from him is worth picking up if you can stash a pack or two away for a rainy day.
Would you buy GMO? I'd treat it the same as I do vegetable seeds now - I avoid doing business with anyone who sells GMO or doesn't say they won't knowingly do so, such as http://www.emmitsburg.net/gardens/articles/frederick/2006/safe_seeds.htm. Of course it would be easier if they were required to label GMO.
For NL, Sensi is really your best bet and they are not cheap but as pure as you are gonna get really for the #5. The Dutch Passion version (#2 or Oasis) is far more sativa leaning, Nirvana has a pretty good version or at least used to not sure about new stock but guessing it's continually inbred and it was based off of Sensi's old NL#5 line. Dr. Atomic has a nice NL hybrid that alot of people love as well. The Joey dude has some as well.
Hindu Kush from Sensi Seeds if possible, Chrome had some incrosses based on these that's what I have personally but not sure about their current availability.
For the genuine Blueberry, DJ Short all the way no question about it. True Blueberry also from him is worth picking up if you can stash a pack or two away for a rainy day.
Thanks for that..I think im gonna go sensi for the NL and and hindu kush..I think rez found his HK from sensi stock 2 ..I think i read that somewhere ..anyway..Im gonna get the blueberry from DJ ..Whats the difference btwn true blueberry and blueberry ?
Huggie bear
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Thanks for the point in the rite direction. I will check those out as I loved NL back in the day even more then most the super strains out today.For NL, Sensi is really your best bet and they are not cheap but as pure as you are gonna get really for the #5. The Dutch Passion version (#2 or Oasis) is far more sativa leaning, Nirvana has a pretty good version or at least used to not sure about new stock but guessing it's continually inbred and it was based off of Sensi's old NL#5 line. Dr. Atomic has a nice NL hybrid that alot of people love as well. The Joey dude has some as well.
Hindu Kush from Sensi Seeds if possible, Chrome had some incrosses based on these that's what I have personally but not sure about their current availability.
For the genuine Blueberry, DJ Short all the way no question about it. True Blueberry also from him is worth picking up if you can stash a pack or two away for a rainy day.
