He is an Adult now so he has to be the one to weigh the pros and cons. I did Similar things in HS. If he is in Ca just tell him not to carry over an oz after Jan 1 when the new law takes effect.
My nephew is one of the biggest stoners at school
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He is not yet 18, and in High School--
I would not have a prob with the smoking...but as far as selling...that ain't good-- As was said, if he gets busted, that will effect his whole future--
catcherintheye
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I would tell him to quit the sellin if it would jeopardize things. As for puffin, if hes a smart kid and its not making him "the stupid couchlocked stoner" we are all victimized as, then let him smoke, but dont ever carry it on your persons at school.
I got kicked out of school just for smokin pot and threatened with expulsion from the entire california public school system if I refused to withdraw. They forced me out, you dont need to be dealing to get fucked.
And you dont need to be dealing in HS, I did it, with all sorts of stuff, I'd like to think I was smart about it, but the day I got caught puffin coulda be the day I was sellin. Theres no such thing as being smart about it if youre doin it (that is if you have shit to risk).
Peace and Goodluck
I got kicked out of school just for smokin pot and threatened with expulsion from the entire california public school system if I refused to withdraw. They forced me out, you dont need to be dealing to get fucked.
And you dont need to be dealing in HS, I did it, with all sorts of stuff, I'd like to think I was smart about it, but the day I got caught puffin coulda be the day I was sellin. Theres no such thing as being smart about it if youre doin it (that is if you have shit to risk).
Peace and Goodluck
Sorry I thought it read he was 18 thats my poor sight for ys "soon to be 18" how soon ?
Somebodies got to get these college kids there bud.
MrBluntfaced
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Okay, I'd say as the uncle...you have the opportunity to be the "cool" one. Since you aren't a parent. Talk to him about how its fine to smoke as long as it doesn't get in the way of shit. Let it be known that slinging a little on the side for some extra smoke is something that most likely will get in the way at some point. Here comes the cool part - offer to "score him some extra when you score yours" aka just give him some of your stash every month if he stops selling/ supplying his friends.
Not a completed thought, or a foolproof plan, but could work...maybe a different approach for more security would be needed?
Not a completed thought, or a foolproof plan, but could work...maybe a different approach for more security would be needed?
I'd say this is second worst piece of advice other than the A2M's suggestion. Not trying to be mean, just honest.
1)If you supply him with herbs, and he gets caught, who ya think gets rolled on? You, or his buddy who he really gets it from.
2) If he's like 75% of the population, he'll take your extra herb and just add it to what he has. Then if its any good, guess who's telling his buddies where he scored the dank stuff when he smokes them out on it.
selling in high school is just too tempting...too many kids with too much money looking for all sorts of drugs. everyone sold herbs at my high school so i had to change it up...i ran a few rubbermaids at a friends house full of magic mushrooms and sold those to students...and bought salvia online legally and sold it too....funny days. back in high school kids are dumb and desperate and will do anything for money. i say his parents are lucky their kid isnt out robbing people or breaking into cars like so many kids i knew did......shit the things youngsters do...seen kids risk 5 years in prison for a measly 30 bucks or some laughs....
Thanks for all the replies.
Im really trying to stay out of my brothers business with his family, but I think that as the one that is the "stoner" in my family I can probably provide some useful input to the kid, especially since my brother doesnt seem to know how to handle. They are sending him to counseling for his "problem" and if that doesnt work they are friends with chief of police and will arrange a "scared straight" encounter with the kid.
I agree 100% with others here who said hardcore, strict punishment wont work. It did not work for me, and it did not work for any of my friends. I think we all know that if someone wants to buy and smoke they will find a way to do that.
Chances are pretty good that at some time over the holidays when I am there visiting I'll just pull him aside and tell the kid I don't want to get into his business, but that there is a smart way of partying and a dumb way of partying that will end up with pretty severe consequences, and that driving around with any kind of quantity in your car, or supplying it to friends is a good way of getting caught, and point out that if he doesn't think he will get caught that he was already caught ONCE by one of his school mates parents. To make it clear I know what Im talking about I might even give him some of my personal stash...
Im really trying to stay out of my brothers business with his family, but I think that as the one that is the "stoner" in my family I can probably provide some useful input to the kid, especially since my brother doesnt seem to know how to handle. They are sending him to counseling for his "problem" and if that doesnt work they are friends with chief of police and will arrange a "scared straight" encounter with the kid.
I agree 100% with others here who said hardcore, strict punishment wont work. It did not work for me, and it did not work for any of my friends. I think we all know that if someone wants to buy and smoke they will find a way to do that.
Chances are pretty good that at some time over the holidays when I am there visiting I'll just pull him aside and tell the kid I don't want to get into his business, but that there is a smart way of partying and a dumb way of partying that will end up with pretty severe consequences, and that driving around with any kind of quantity in your car, or supplying it to friends is a good way of getting caught, and point out that if he doesn't think he will get caught that he was already caught ONCE by one of his school mates parents. To make it clear I know what Im talking about I might even give him some of my personal stash...
MrBluntfaced
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Thus the "mayybe this needs a more thought out approach" part...
Maybe something like "introducing" him to your dealer...when really its just a buddy or another relative.
1. So you snitch? Cause I know when I'm caught burning I just say I can't remember I got it so long ago.
2. Glad you think so highly of your family members with these two things by the way...and Idk how long its been since you've been in highschool, but if this kid has a FREE connect to some exotic weeds...I don't think he's gonna be to quick to spread the word on who it is.
Especially if its his cool ass uncle who blazes with him and gives him half the stash he brings, AS LONG AS nobody EVER finds out.
almost 18 and smart thats not possible. he is propably a big dumbass, like everyone at 18, and wont listen to what you say anyways. like me when i was 18 lol.
My advice would be
let his parents deal with him.
As far as you go, I would be that cool uncle who also finds what he is doing fuckin STUPID especially with the amount of twerps in high school, I would let him know that odds are ANY of his so called homies will turn on him in a hearbeat if they were ever talked to about WHERE DID YOU GET THAT STUFF!
I personally think it should be the parents decision but hell I remember high school and "moving weight" in high school is far different then it is now LOL.
let his parents deal with him.
As far as you go, I would be that cool uncle who also finds what he is doing fuckin STUPID especially with the amount of twerps in high school, I would let him know that odds are ANY of his so called homies will turn on him in a hearbeat if they were ever talked to about WHERE DID YOU GET THAT STUFF!
I personally think it should be the parents decision but hell I remember high school and "moving weight" in high school is far different then it is now LOL.
It's a tough one trying to tell anything to a I know it all teenager, I personally don't have a problem with him smoking because that would make me a hypocrite! I don't know about giving him some of yours after all you're the "stoner" uncle, and that would probably put you just in a bad position with your brother!
I think you might want to take him somewhere & have a talk with him, find out what he wants to do in life, if his intentions are to go to MIT point out that the path he is on will probably make getting into MIT almost impossible!
A lot of people think that their child wants to do this or that but that's not what the kid really wants to do, & the more people force their kids to do what they think they should do the more likely they are to do the complete opposite! If your Nephew is as smart as you say& that's what he wants to do he will do it for himself!
I think you might want to take him somewhere & have a talk with him, find out what he wants to do in life, if his intentions are to go to MIT point out that the path he is on will probably make getting into MIT almost impossible!
A lot of people think that their child wants to do this or that but that's not what the kid really wants to do, & the more people force their kids to do what they think they should do the more likely they are to do the complete opposite! If your Nephew is as smart as you say& that's what he wants to do he will do it for himself!
I'm sure there's suppose to be a ..n't..after "would" in ...... 
Me first neg rep comment...My nephew challenged me while under my care. He was fuckin up! skippin school, mom in recovery fer months....and....Well..
I did the car thing for a week!...I controlled ALL the funds!...and pretty much his life.
He bitched a bit, but in the end we made him graduate HS.
He didn't like having to pay his way, chores, checking in, or house rules, like, Dinner at the table every school day, Chores, and in by 12! cuz of Lockin the Doors!...
Then He turned 18 and did it again--the challenge--
...You can help all day long, but at that age until 35 er so, (like most of us) could give a shit about anything but Self!!----Especially with a little hottie hangin on the arm, strockin the scrot...
So the bad uncle said, Well,..This is my house, my rules, and if'n you can't accept it!...>>> ...you know where the door is!... leave the keys on the table!
So he got himself a little pussy, borrowed some bucks from his bro, and went East!....that was 15 er so years ago....And that's all he's had to say about that!.....
Unfortunate, sure!.......Do I lose any sleep over it?...Not a bit!
Another bad uncle deal!!....
He hid it well!?!.. He liked the Crack, He made babes, He stole stuff and checks, He went to jail, He broke in house, He got 12 gauge stuck in face.... His bro went East before him by about 5 years...
.....They haven't!..........I'm just an uncle though
Do I lose any sleep over it??...Not a fuckin wink!
if he's a "smart kid" and gets A's in his honors classes etc etc....
he's not a moron, he knows what he's doing has risks associated with it and he STILL chooses to do it for whatever reason.
if he's hustling to make some money because he needs/wants it (doesn't sound like it), you aren't gonna stop it.
If he's not hurting for dough, and still chooses to do it, put yourself in his shoes and think like him, "why pay $50 a week for weed when I can hook up a couple homies I trust and smoke for free instead?"
obviously there is extremely limited trust (non existent) when dealing with drugs/money/people, regardless of how long you've known em or how you're related.
I dont care how smart a 17 y/o kid is, they don't realize THAT aspect, that trust is non existent in this business.
You should convince him that although he might follow good practices, its not HIM thats probably gonna get him caught up but rather one of his buddies who fucks up.
Ask if he can honestly 100% no ifs and or buts, count on every person who knows he slangs to keep their mouths shut when a cop threatens them with years (even if just a couple grams), every single kid at that age group would roll, no questions asked..... the only ones that might not are the ones with dads in the pen or brothers who slang even bigger.
Kids dont comprehend consequences as much as we'd like to give em credit for.
All you can really do is give him your opinion. This is mine and I say it to all my friends involved in this biz.
Be smart when you're being dumb.
he's not a moron, he knows what he's doing has risks associated with it and he STILL chooses to do it for whatever reason.
if he's hustling to make some money because he needs/wants it (doesn't sound like it), you aren't gonna stop it.
If he's not hurting for dough, and still chooses to do it, put yourself in his shoes and think like him, "why pay $50 a week for weed when I can hook up a couple homies I trust and smoke for free instead?"
obviously there is extremely limited trust (non existent) when dealing with drugs/money/people, regardless of how long you've known em or how you're related.
I dont care how smart a 17 y/o kid is, they don't realize THAT aspect, that trust is non existent in this business.
You should convince him that although he might follow good practices, its not HIM thats probably gonna get him caught up but rather one of his buddies who fucks up.
Ask if he can honestly 100% no ifs and or buts, count on every person who knows he slangs to keep their mouths shut when a cop threatens them with years (even if just a couple grams), every single kid at that age group would roll, no questions asked..... the only ones that might not are the ones with dads in the pen or brothers who slang even bigger.
Kids dont comprehend consequences as much as we'd like to give em credit for.
All you can really do is give him your opinion. This is mine and I say it to all my friends involved in this biz.
Be smart when you're being dumb.
statusquo
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It seems your brother has an issue with pot smoking. That being said, the advice to supply him or give him a connect (basically to admit you are a stoner) would have bad consequences. Do you really think your nephew won't go straight to your brother and say "WELL UNCLE JOE DOES IT!" You can imagine all sorts of awesome consequences should your nephew run his mouth...and he will. Mr.Blunted I'm going to have to straight up disagree. Highschool kids (and people in general) love to brag. Having a stoner uncle who gave a legit connect would definitely result in half the fucking school knowing the uncle is a stoner...
I dont think he would be having an issue if he was smoking once or twice a month. He does not like it that the kid is:
1) Burning every day..probably before school also.
2) Buying in quantity and supplying his friends.
3) Lying about it..
If he was just buying for personal use, and smoking only a couple of times a month I really dont think it would be an issue.
I've been his shoes, and had my parents punish me harshly and it did not stop me...it only made me more rebellious. Thats why Id like to have a chance to talk to the kid and explain "stupid partying vs smart partying".
So far I have not said a word though, and the more I read what everyone has posted, the more I realize it is basically just not my place to say or do anything unless I was asked to.
The kid is smart, no doubt about it. But street smarts and book smarts are not synonymous. 18 is far from being an adult.... maybe in the eyes of the law you are, but as far as maturity goes? No where close to being an adult.
I know you're struggling with this... but let me add something. When I was 18 (and I'm older now but still feel the same way) the one thing I wish I had was a mentor. I'm not talking about a parental figure. I'm talking about someone who could've sat me down, identified with my situation, tell me that he's been there and back himself, and dropped some wisdom on me. I mean my parents are my parents, but our paths in life are very different. As such, the amount of advice they can offer me is limited.
You can get all the straight As you want... all the book learning you want... but wisdom comes with age, and at 18, you really don't have a lot. Just a thought homie.
Maybe this will sway your decision: If he gets in trouble now (not even legal trouble, but say a suspension or expulsion from school) will you feel bad/guilty?
A arrest/suspension/expulsion will 100% prevent him from going to MIT or any Tier 1 college, period. That's a fact. But on the bright side he'll get a ton of money thrown at him to attend a Tier 3 school/state school.
I know you're struggling with this... but let me add something. When I was 18 (and I'm older now but still feel the same way) the one thing I wish I had was a mentor. I'm not talking about a parental figure. I'm talking about someone who could've sat me down, identified with my situation, tell me that he's been there and back himself, and dropped some wisdom on me. I mean my parents are my parents, but our paths in life are very different. As such, the amount of advice they can offer me is limited.
You can get all the straight As you want... all the book learning you want... but wisdom comes with age, and at 18, you really don't have a lot. Just a thought homie.
Maybe this will sway your decision: If he gets in trouble now (not even legal trouble, but say a suspension or expulsion from school) will you feel bad/guilty?
A arrest/suspension/expulsion will 100% prevent him from going to MIT or any Tier 1 college, period. That's a fact. But on the bright side he'll get a ton of money thrown at him to attend a Tier 3 school/state school.
um, he can come work for me and i'll treat him just like the rest of my crew...
sink or swim... 60+ hr weeks, manual labor, etc. i'm sure he will straighten up real quick, and will wont to go to school instead of work.
kids that young roll on each other all fuckin day... not working risking your future over a few bags of weed, and some extra money, when you can go get a great education, and a decent job, and be financially sound for life.
i blew off school and worked my way up from nothin. i make good money and all now but it wasn't as easy as it could have been had i just listened to my elders at that age. when your 17 you think you know, but you don't know jack shit. you have your whole life to have fun, just tell him to buck up for the time being, and when he is through school, has a job, a home, etc. he can grow his own if he wants but be do the responsible thing for now while cannabis is still illegal.
if the laws were different i would say who care, but they aren't and sometimes you have to make sacrifices that aren't always easy but will be 100X more rewarding in the end.
sink or swim... 60+ hr weeks, manual labor, etc. i'm sure he will straighten up real quick, and will wont to go to school instead of work.
kids that young roll on each other all fuckin day... not working risking your future over a few bags of weed, and some extra money, when you can go get a great education, and a decent job, and be financially sound for life.
i blew off school and worked my way up from nothin. i make good money and all now but it wasn't as easy as it could have been had i just listened to my elders at that age. when your 17 you think you know, but you don't know jack shit. you have your whole life to have fun, just tell him to buck up for the time being, and when he is through school, has a job, a home, etc. he can grow his own if he wants but be do the responsible thing for now while cannabis is still illegal.
if the laws were different i would say who care, but they aren't and sometimes you have to make sacrifices that aren't always easy but will be 100X more rewarding in the end.
