Colorado MMJ- URGENT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[Ganoderma]

Okay all I was checking out the states web site for the registry an found this, its saying that there are now no conditions that have been approved, and some of those where actually listed at some point in time as a condition that would qualify you, like Crohn's Disease, I know that it was listed at one point in time as a debilitating condition and that it was one of the condition you could qualify under. They have a list of approved conditions but the list is blank.


this info came from the states own web site
SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA REGISTRY PROGRAM, THE COLORADO
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT HAS RECEIVED PETITIONS TO ADD THE
FOLLOWING DEBILITATING MEDICAL CONDITIONS TO THE LIST OF CONDITIONS FOR WHICH
MEDICAL MARIJUANA MAY BE RECOMMENDED.
Asthma
Atherosclerosis
Bi-polar disease
Crohn’s Disease
Diabetes Mellitus, Types 1 & 2
Diabetic Retinopathy
Hepatitis C
Hypertension
Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA)
Opiod Dependence
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Severe Anxiety and Clinical Depression
Tourette’s Syndrome
NONE OF THESE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE LIST OF DEBILITATING MEDICAL
CONDITIONS PROVIDED FOR IN THE COLORADO CONSTITUTION.

 

[sac beh]

Those conditions you listed are in their list of DENIED conditions. That's really unfortunate as cannabis helps people with many of them. But all is not lost. People with the above conditions can qualify and do participate in the CO MMJ program, because conditions that qualify are defined in three ways:

(I) Cancer, glaucoma, positive status for human immunodeficiency virus, or acquired immune deficiency syndrome, or treatment for such conditions;

(II) A chronic or debilitating disease or medical condition, or treatment for such conditions, which produces, for a specific patient, one or more of the following, and for which, in the professional opinion of the patient's physician, such condition or conditions reasonably may be alleviated by the medical use of marijuana: cachexia; severe pain; severe nausea; seizures, including those that are characteristic of epilepsy; or persistent muscle spasms, including those that are characteristic of multiple sclerosis; or

(III) Any other medical condition, or treatment for such condition, approved by the state health agency, pursuant to its rule making authority or its approval of any petition submitted by a patient or physician as provided in this section.

Most people qualify under II obviously, since it allows for a wide interpretation. III refers to the state approved conditions, which as we can see are zero right now!

Just wanted to make sure everyone understood that there are 3 ways to qualify under the constitution, only one of them being dependent on the state approving new conditions.

 

[Ganoderma]

Yes, but Crohn's disease had been one of the approved conditions since day one. And their list of approved conditions is BLANK!

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Wow! I hope everyone gets the meds they deserve. I cant believe some of these are on the Deny list!

 

[yortbogey]

thatz total BULLSCHIT..............I...SUFFER......daily from Crohn's.....and diabetic complications............they are VERY....debilitating............and effect .........EVERY aspect of my daily...life...........and often............MMJ......is the ONLY.......relif after hourz of nausea,waves of stomachpain, and uncontrollable bathroom sessions.........
there phuckin stupid if they dont think MMJ..can/and will help.......

so often the ONLY... relief........
let those bastards spend a week in my shoez..............

and see if they can manage............

 

[CANNATOPIA]

I have Hep-C.

I have Hep-C.

relief after hours of nausea,waves of stomach pain, and uncontrollable bathroom sessions........

I agree 100% friend and can relate. May Peace find these patients swiftly.

 

[sac beh]

Yes, but Crohn's disease had been one of the approved conditions since day one. And their list of approved conditions is BLANK!

I see. Well since Crohn's wasn't ever specifically in the constitution or in any of the bills, I think it was always considered to qualify under II. But yeah it is very concerning that the APPROVED list has zero and the DENIED list is full of conditions that research shows cannabis to help. Since I've been watching Colorado its shown a general trend toward tightening regulations and preventing as many folks as possible from participating, either as caregivers or patients.

A couple other concerning things that people in CO should know about, and there's still time to act on:

1) There is a proposal to set a THC limit for driving, which obviously has all sorts of problems:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_16780152

2) They are asking for input on how "caregiver" should be legally defined.

A new 2010 Colorado law requires a working definition for significant responsibility for managing the well-being of a patient. The 2010 law also states that a primary caregiver simply supplying medical marijuana itself is NOT sufficient to have significant responsibility for managing the well-being of a patient who has a debilitating medical condition. Medical Marijuana\25 1.5-106.pdf pdf logo (3) Rulemaking (VIII) (b) (1).

Is significant responsibility helping the patient with daily tasks, such as cooking, bathing, or other household chores? Is it arranging medical care across several medical providers? What makes a person a primary caregiver?

They've already attacked caregivers with plant and patient limits, leaving only a scattered few individuals plus the larger MMC's to be legal providers. Seems important to make sure caregiver is not defined with any more restrictions than already. Bathing? Household chores? These are medical providers and should be defined as such and nothing more!

 

[catcherintheye]

Okay all I was checking out the states web site for the registry an found this, its saying that there are now no conditions that have been approved, and some of those where actually listed at some point in time as a condition that would qualify you, like Crohn's Disease, I know that it was listed at one point in time as a debilitating condition and that it was one of the condition you could qualify under. They have a list of approved conditions but the list is blank.


this info came from the states own web site
SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA REGISTRY PROGRAM, THE COLORADO
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT HAS RECEIVED PETITIONS TO ADD THE
FOLLOWING DEBILITATING MEDICAL CONDITIONS TO THE LIST OF CONDITIONS FOR WHICH
MEDICAL MARIJUANA MAY BE RECOMMENDED.
Asthma
Atherosclerosis
Bi-polar disease
Crohn’s Disease
Diabetes Mellitus, Types 1 & 2
Diabetic Retinopathy
Hepatitis C
Hypertension
Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA)
Opiod Dependence
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Severe Anxiety and Clinical Depression
Tourette’s Syndrome
NONE OF THESE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE LIST OF DEBILITATING MEDICAL
CONDITIONS PROVIDED FOR IN THE COLORADO CONSTITUTION.

HA-HA GANO, very funny, but everybody knows that marijuana is a gateway drug.

 

[funkfingers]

Any Dr that is truly a Dr will find a way to qualify you under the current guidelines..Crohn's could very easily fall under the category of severe nausea, right? It is no also required that the dr give the etiology of the pain, meaning you can't just claim severe pain anymore.. If you need help locating a good dr in the area pm me, as long as you have medical records that state you have one of the qualifying conditions I.E nausea from crohn's...

The Threshold limit for THC on the other hand...That is complete garbage, there is no way that is reasonable, as I have been (at a time) abstaining from the use of the erb, and it still took me 3.5 months to piss "clean" which the measure in parts per billion I do believe..UNtil you show me accurate drug tests that can in fact tell that you are under the influence this just seems to be another tactic used under false pretenses to drum up revenue for the counties.. average DUI = 10k..100k patients, 10k a pop well even if you only nab a 1000 people (patients ) which I believe is 1% of that # (correct me if I'm wrong) that is 10 million dollars just in guaranteed easy dui's.. This my friends is politics at it's finest..What do they call that one hand washes the other, Tax revenue and you can arrest the consumer at any given time they get behind the wheel because it's half life is well beyond 24 hrs...

ramble ramble ....

 

[Ganoderma]

2) They are asking for input on how "caregiver" should be legally defined.

A new 2010 Colorado law requires a working definition for significant responsibility for managing the well-being of a patient. The 2010 law also states that a primary caregiver simply supplying medical marijuana itself is NOT sufficient to have significant responsibility for managing the well-being of a patient who has a debilitating medical condition. Medical Marijuana\25 1.5-106.pdf pdf logo (3) Rulemaking (VIII) (b) (1).

Is significant responsibility helping the patient with daily tasks, such as cooking, bathing, or other household chores? Is it arranging medical care across several medical providers? What makes a person a primary caregiver?

The state has stopped taking taking input on the definition of what a caregiver is. The last day that they accepted them was on the 3rd and then there is a meeting next week on the 8th when the states advisory board will meet to figure out what a caregiver is.



IN my opinion if us caregivers have to wipe our patients asses, then so should the dispensaries!

 

[Paco]

Boy-O! this has turned into a real fucked up mess...

 

[Tr33]

OP Your making abig deal out of nothing.
There is no mystery to that list.
As it states
These are mmj conditions that were submitted by petition, and never approved.
The blank list is the approved petition list which no new mmj conditions have been added to.
Nothing else.

AD14 still stands.
All approved AD14 mmj conditions still apply.
It's that easy.

There have been no new mmj conditions added to the approved AD14 list.
and none have been removed
HB1284 does not effect AD14 mmj conditions in any way whatsoever.

 

[sac beh]

State to Replace Confidential Medical Marijuana Registry with Law Enforcement Database
{Denver} -- At the Colorado Department of Revenue's Medical Marijuana Advisory Board's final meeting on Monday, Dec. 6, 2010, the DoR unveiled details about the monolithic database it is creating to gather volumes of private information on medical marijuana patients.

http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/legal/rules/dor/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuYn9C_BbjM

Draft of Colorado pot rules is a 90-page tome
Medical-marijuana advocates and government representatives on Monday hammered out the final details of proposed new rules that would give Colorado the most comprehensive seed-to-sale cannabis business regulations in the nation.

The rules would govern everything: how state officials regulate marijuana cultivation; how dispensary owners keep track of their sales; what makers of marijuana-infused pastries should put on their labels. Several of the rules would place Colorado in unprecedented territory — for instance, requiring marijuana growers to install security cameras through which state auditors could remotely monitor their crop. Others would take action on areas of long-standing concern, including inventory-control rules designed to prevent medical marijuana from leaking into the black market.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_16794489?source=pkg

 

[LayedBack]

Yeah it sucks that certain people have a hard time getting their medicine. But let's face it, most of this country has NO medicinal marijuana whatsoever. So are we really surprised?

I have pretty severe chronic pain, I'm a 20 year old who can barely work at all. And guess what, here in Virginia marijuana is the devils drug and they will gladly send me to jail for using my illegal medicine.

So from where I'm standing Colorado and all of these other states have it GOOD! Anyways good luck and all, of course they're many conditions that are helped by marijuana. But it's going to be a long time before we are given what we deserve.

 

[Paco]

wow! they want to interface patient records with the law enforcement database?holy shit! nI feel the urge to not re-register next year.

 

[homebrew420]

wow! they want to interface patient records with the law enforcement database?holy shit! nI feel the urge to not re-register next year.

I am feeling the same way. This is not right...at all. What the hell do the cops need to know what I or my patients suffer from?

 

[stickey fingers]

FUCK COLORADOS GOV SURVILANCE MED PRG

FUCK COLORADOS GOV SURVILANCE MED PRG

FUCK the colorado state and fed, imformation collection program, and there manditory 24 live feed to the state and fed offices, i now know another reason prop 19 in cali didnt pass aside from grower greed ! its grower control to not let are govt fuck us over any more than it already has ! this bullshit has to stop and after 20 years of growing and growing threw the CAMP in the 80s, co s med laws remind me how much i hate the us gov for try to control my life, it really sucks that i know more about the meds and how to use them , then my doc

RIP DR JAY

 

[303hydro]

Yeah that's bad mmm-k.

 

[303hydro]

I gotta bump this to a whole new thread as its off topic from original post but every patient in CO should be aware of this.

 

[jd4083]

double post