Human urine!?

[redneck shogun]

Growing organically will change your life, and transform your thought process. We have 100 trillion cells in our body but carry 10 times that many microorganisms in our gut alone. Bacteria make up 60% of the mass of our feces. Without evolving a symbiotic relationship with life on the planet, we could of never come to exist at all. You can't hide from it, it's all around you, in you and in the air you breathe.

I think we are at a crossroads of evolution, we can continue trying to sterilize our world or we can learn to work with nature. This can only work if we stop being afraid of it. I'm not an expert on these things but I am on a path that started right here in this forum. Maybe the original poster is open minded enough to change. We can only teach our children what we know.

 

[statusquo]

Except for the fact that it's been pissed on. It's fucking piss, people. Seriously.

People don't piss on the plants...I thought they watered their plants with piss; there's a big difference. Also, piss is sterile on the way out so unless you are sick/have some viral infection than there isn't an issue. People are just immediately grossed out/turned off when it comes to piss/waste. Just because it's illegal/not practiced doesn't mean it's wrong or viable. Often this is the case for an emotional or arbitrary reason. All that being said, I don't piss on my plants or water them with my piss. As for all this talk about pee being more susceptible to pathogens/bacteria once it has left the urethra...I don't see why piss would be more susceptible than any other liquid or solid. I'm pretty sure that piece of cake (basically anything with a food source for the pathogens/bacteria: sugar etc) left out harbors and yields way more bad bacteria/pathogens than piss. Pathogens are omnipresent and you are ingesting/breathing them all the time. Also as someone pointed out - a significant portion of our body is made up of (healthy) bacteria.

i dont get how a person can grow organic and not get over all the juvenile feelings of "that's gross!" you're growing in decomposing wood and plant material, and it's been fortified with animal shit and rancid fish guts and kelp extraction. if you're so squeamish go hydro.

it's been addressed that any pathogens in your fertilizer is only an issue in ground dwelling plants where the edible portion gets directly sprayed with the manure. in an organic system, well rotted manure is fully broken down in the soil and only digested nutrients are passed on to the plants.

urine is sterile as far as i know.

Thank you haha. I always find it funny how people pick and choose what's gross or what's acceptable...

Old hippie told me one piss per gallon works great.... I haven't tried it, I use enough bat shit in my soil I don't think I need it. He also told me he only drinks water and organic juice so its not full of chemicals from pop or redbull or what have you.

One piss hahaha...pretty vague unit - not to mention people drink different qualities and quantities of liquid/food. My piss is a lot different than your piss =P Pretty good idea to be eating organically if you are going to be using your piss though lol. I wonder if synthetic urine would be cheaper than ferts =P hahaha (joking)

 

[CannaExists]

I don't intend to insult or judge anyone with this observation, here I go:

It seems to me that "most humans" are so dis-attached from "Nature" that they view the human species as a totally different phenomenon from other species, such as Cows Goats Bats Chickens etc. When really, we are all animals, all belonging to the same kingdom, and theres nothing inherently more gross about human shit than any other shit, its all in the mind. I used to think this way, its the way we were all raised, it required very strong willpower and a fiery compassion for protecting the environment for me to have the gumption to shit in a brown paper bag (that's how I started). I haven't shit in a toilet since.

I will point out, the one unavoidable difference between humans and animals, is that a large quantity of humans feed on the worst diets ever. Totally non-biologically related Frankenfoods, you don't see Horses or Chickens or Bats eating Big Macs and drinking Big Gulps (no offense to the fella that mentioned that).

I do hope that someone benefits from my observation, and doesn't take offense. I intend to spread helpful knowledge to my fellow brothers and sisters, and don't intend to insult any ideals that they hold dear.

Blessings, CannaExists

 

[Dr_Tre]

Maybe the original poster is open minded enough to change.

No, sorry, I'm not pissing on my plants.Period.Call me emotional and old fashioned.

Started this thread just to check what IC organic crew thinks about it. to all who responded.

 

[conehead]

C'mon man! Marijuana is our sacred plant, "DONT PISS ON YOUR WEED BROTHER". Just go buy some Urea from your grow shop. Atleast that way you wont be smoking your own piss.

 

[conehead]

PISS & SHIT BELONGS IN THE CRAPPER

PISS & SHIT BELONGS IN THE CRAPPER

WHAT'S NEXT REPLACING FERTILISER WITH HUMAN FECAL MATTER.

 

[quadracer]

In some parts of China, where nutrients are scarce, they use human fecal matter to fertilize their plants. This old fellow in my master composting class was telling us how he would have to wake up before everyone else to gather manure from humans and animals alike so they could use for their plants.

Now he has a rose farm and makes some killer compost tea.

Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge. People do what they gotta do.

 

[The_Weed_Worm]

This is ridiculous, what is this middle school? Wake up guys. I'm not saying piss on your plants, but damn. There is nothing "gross" about pissing on a plant. Especially outdoor plants. I guarantee there is no decreeable difference.

Worm

 

[londonfog]

I have used piss for N. Just dilute it like 7-1 water... Gives the plants a quick shot of pure N..Never piss directly on your plants that would burn the hell out of your roots...To each its own but when I need to I do..

 

[descivii]

I guarantee there is no decreeable difference.

Worm

That's false, the difference is that you will have a naturally occuring source of nitrogen which requires neither purchase nor mining or whatever you call stripping fossilized crap. The difference is in your pocketbook and the impact you make on the world.

J.

 

[mrcreosote]

If piss is good then human blood must be great.

Get your Girl Scout cookies for free too...Love those Do-Si-Dos.

Make sure you get rid of the Watch Tower magazines though, you wouldn't want to arouse suspicion in the neighborhood.

 

[mad librettist]

Human urine!?

you would be better off getting a composting toilet and feeding your soil something a little more substantial and capable of supporting diverse life.

 

[Hybrid Whooa]

Open your eyes, and open your mind. You will be amazed in what you find.

 

[The_Weed_Worm]

That's false, the difference is that you will have a naturally occuring source of nitrogen which requires neither purchase nor mining or whatever you call stripping fossilized crap. The difference is in your pocketbook and the impact you make on the world.

J.

Thanks bro, I stand corrected!! I guess it's easy to forget about the obvious when your so blown away by the ignorance of "popular beliefs" and stigmatisms. I guess this is why the world is the way it is right now. I dunno I guess I just out right think differently than most people, and it is not everyday I become reminded of that. Especially when you interact with as few people as I do.

Worm

 

[ixnay007]

you would be better off getting a composting toilet and feeding your soil something a little more substantial and capable of supporting diverse life.

For the feces, yeah, for urine, it works great fresh, just dilute it.

 

[mad librettist]

For the feces, yeah, for urine, it works great fresh, just dilute it.

Well, I'm assuming the goals are reduced nutrient pollution footprint from your lifestyle (recycling), and great soil?

because nice, whole raw materials (plant matter) are also in abundant supply, using diluted urine is just not a great choice. Something requiring more steps to break down is more likely to encourage diversity.

in other words, I'm saying feed your soil with cells, whereas urine is a cellular secretion.

 

[Daffy]

1. Urine, is awesome for a compost activator.
if you don't have a lot of nitrogen material ,
why not,
gotta go gotta go gotta go right now
into my compost pile.

 

[ixnay007]

Well, I'm assuming the goals are reduced nutrient pollution footprint from your lifestyle (recycling), and great soil?

because nice, whole raw materials (plant matter) are also in abundant supply, using diluted urine is just not a great choice. Something requiring more steps to break down is more likely to encourage diversity.

in other words, I'm saying feed your soil with cells, whereas urine is a cellular secretion.

Urine is extremely available as a nutrient (very rarely in bio can you see a plant react so quickly to an added nutrient), and contains a lot of good trace elements. It's not going to displace anything, diversity is the spice of life..

 

[Maria_Vanessa]

When I went to a state park for a group project in my Geography class, I remembered seeing a sign stating that all of the lavatories had composting toliets and urinals. When I asked the staff for more details, they really didn't know the details (and didn't really want to know ), only that it had worked succesffuly for them for several years.

Since they used less water, their water bills were lower than the other state parks that were still using conventional septic systems and hadn't switched over yet. The secretary/clerk who was there told me the maintanence crew had a schedule where they would collect the completely composted material and add it to sections of land in the state park to prevent further erosion.

And if you don't know what a composting toliet looks like, a Wikipedia article is a good place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet

 

[mad librettist]

Urine is extremely available as a nutrient (very rarely in bio can you see a plant react so quickly to an added nutrient), and contains a lot of good trace elements. It's not going to displace anything, diversity is the spice of life..

Urine contains urea, which actually is not available until it is processed, which happens very fast as you point out. Compost tea or slurry can bring about equally rapid and dramatic change.

Why wouldn't all that quickly available N be cutting out key players, when that is exactly what happens when synthetic urea is applied regularly?

If you are trying to build your soil up, urine is not really your friend. If you are out of options it's a fine last resort, but as Daffy pointed it out it's best to compost the stuff first. Feed your soil whole foods for better results in the long term.

Any reduction in number of times you flush the toilet is a good thing.