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BrainSellz

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if prop 19 would have passed would that have made the difference or would things still be this way?
dunno what i would do if i needed meds, lived there and depended on it.....guess id be buying a light and taking a risk:dunno:
 

Yes4Prop215

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and every street dealer in fresno cheers this.....garunteed business for them. its sad that 19 failing is having these anti MMJ effects, but if these boneheads wanna keep making this stuff stay in the black market than FUCK THEM! make some god damn money people...this sounds like good money in fresno! you can blowout a 3 bedroom house, get good money for your wares, and even if the cops come you probably wont be looking at any jail time...

like people are gonna magically stop smoking pot becuase theres no dispensaries lol...all this means is more people making money tax free!! let fresno miss out, im sure they could have used that tax money for something useful, now they wont get a penny...
 
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mugenbao

if prop 19 would have passed would that have made the difference or would things still be this way?
It seems as if the failure of Prop 19 has emboldened those who stand to profit most from the war on drugs, almost as if they see themselves as vindicated and now have renewed enthusiasm and the reinforced belief that the public supports their insane antics. And for people like that, medical marijuana is the easiest target they could hope for, with very few repercussions in the long term. It's not a political liability to be rabidly antidrug, and even those who "take it too far" don't seem to suffer much for their misplaced enthusiasm.

How sad that they (understandably) believe that the public supports them, and that there's so little motivation for them to change :(
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......

keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference? or does it need to be explained to you?
 

BrainSellz

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this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......
keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference?
yup.....with prop 19 passing maybe then folks start to see things different...."having a toke with your other half" starts to sound like "having a glass of wine with your other half" ...things become socially excepted when other things make way for it to be....like PROP 19...mo

we will never know what prop 19 would have done for the cause so to say it has nothing to do with it..... i will leave that in the air where it belongs....
 

Hash Zeppelin

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It has everything to do with prop 19

It has everything to do with prop 19

this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......

keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference? or does it need to be explained to you?

It has everything to do with prop 19!! it HAS emboldened the anti pot ass holes. Plus if Prop 19 passed than these ass holes would be busy worrying about that instead of using there momentum to go after 215.

Your prop 215 rights are disappearing at a faster rate by the day. Very soon that will matter for you personally, and your court case.

well congradu-fucking-lations, the price of pot might go up but the social cost will too. Big Time!

All you people that voted no on prop 19 owe it to your state and country to put up a shit ton of cash towards passing a new legalization bill. You need to get your ass out there and Campaign because you fucked it up worse, and you are profiting more.
 

kmk420kali

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this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......

keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference? or does it need to be explained to you?

Much Love bro...but gotta disagree--
Like we said all along...Prop 19 failing...is the beginning of the end--
They now have, "The People have denounced it!!" on their side--
They will exploit this, to the maximum!!
Recreational use would have taken all the focus off MMJ...Richard Lee would be wearing the Bulls eye...instead of MMJ--
Sorry it worked out this way....honestly--:tiphat:
 

simos

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We're heading modernly into the future!

They're more likely to pop off and shoot somebody :D

Didn't they have a MMJ related shooting a couple months back in Fresno?

Somebody with a suburban backyard overflowing with hundreds of giant plants got ripped off and shot one of the thieves in the head while he was escaping, no?

I'm betting that had something to do with the push to curtail the spread...
 

MrBlue2

Member
that sucks!!! People need safe access to their meds. The gap will hopefully be filled by patient to patient compassion and reliable delivery services based els ware. but more likely this will lead to more street deals, which means more robberies, shootings, and trouble.

I know that the south lake tahoe city council was waiting on the results of prop 19 to help base there decision to place new, and extremely restrictive, regulations on collectives there. I hope they dont follow the path of Fresno.

Like Crunch said this is a medical issue and has nothing to do with prop 19.
 
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DMXAK47

Didn't they have a MMJ related shooting a couple months back in Fresno?

Somebody with a suburban backyard overflowing with hundreds of giant plants got ripped off and shot one of the thieves in the head while he was escaping, no?

I'm betting that had something to do with the push to curtail the spread...


yes that is true, i live in this city and its sad. it seems like the more the jails are full the more their out looking to bring people in for a profit. what ever happend, i herd they found votes for prop19 in a river?
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
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Like we said all along...Prop 19 failing...is the beginning of the end--

The end is nowhere in sight.

Cannabis is here as it has always been.

I feel that Prop 19 passing would have changed things for the worse as well.

The fact of the matter is there are more profiteers than just growers.

This has been going on for decades and decades.

It didn't start because 19 didn't pass.

True story.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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the end is not in sight because none of are giving up. the bottom line is as time goes on refer madness is ending because that generation is dying, and that way of thinking is dying as well.
 
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mugenbao

this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......

keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference? or does it need to be explained to you?
Your inability to see that Prop 19 did not exist in a vacuum, and that either passage or failure would have some effect on the thoughts and actions of those in power is unfortunate, but not surprising.

To myopic special interests like yours, the failure of 19 may simply hold no more importance than that another challenge was put down in the short term. To law enforcement and career politicians, who tend to see each election cycle as a referendum on public opinion, it is a reinforcement of their stance and a green light not just to perpetuate, but to escalate, the war on drugs. Since they are not fully comfortable with or particularly happy about medical marijuana means that they will continue trying to chip away at it until they discover a successful line of attack.

Like it or not, a propositions failure to pass doesn't necessarily mean that it has been forgotten and buried, and on a hot-button issue such as this one, that will mean that we will be seeing the consequences for some time to come. Consequences that may not have a direct correlation to prop19, but are clearly a piece of the bigger war on drugs.
 

ddrew

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this has NOTHING to do with prop 19......

keep bringing prop 19 up, this about medical marijuana, do you guys understand the difference? or does it need to be explained to you?
It is 100 fucking percent due to 19 failing.
Are you going to tell me if there was legal weed in CA today, that anyone would be trying to mess with med??
 

Cool Moe

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The Supreme Court's decision in January 2010 will have a big impact on cannabis laws. With the 5-4 passage of "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission" they inexplicably gave corportions (and unions) the right to bestow unlimited, private campaign contributions to their candidates of choice. Well we all know how flush unions are(n't). Argue all you want about what is fair or just but until the cannabis industry can grease the politicians like the alcohol, pharmacy, and prison-industrial groups currently do, we are facing an uphill battle.
 
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