WTF?should 13yr old be smokin pot w/ prnts

[kmk420kali]

Taking any preconceived automatic responses out of it, what do you think will happen that is so bad?

They are obviously starting on a lifelong journey of smoking Ganja-- IMO, and I am not a Dr...it would be too hard on their grossly underdeveloped lungs--
Besides...they are at an age when it is impossible for them to make a decision like that for themselves--
I don't know...Cultural Shock I suppose....13 year olds smoke all the time, but to see a 3 to 5 year old hitting a joint...there is just nothing I see about that as "Good"--

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

They are obviously starting on a lifelong journey of smoking Ganja-- IMO, and I am not a Dr...it would be too hard on their grossly underdeveloped lungs--
Besides...they are at an age when it is impossible for them to make a decision like that for themselves--
I don't know...Cultural Shock I suppose....13 year olds smoke all the time, but to see a 3 to 5 year old hitting a joint...there is just nothing I see about that as "Good"--

But what if their lungs are fine? And what if it is natural for humans of all ages to smoke ganja and it is your opinion that is the aberration?

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/2151.html

Several indigenous African tribes allow children as young as three years old to freely smoke cannabis. Anthropological documentary films show very young tribe members smoking pot, then climbing 60-foot trees or sprinting after game in a dense forest.

 

[SacredTHCRitual]

its smart for parents to be honest with their kids about drugs.

the parents remember what kind of mischief they got into at that age and now want their kids to have the information they wished they had. It's a fine line though because a parent doesn't want to blur the line between friend and parent. The parents have to be both friend and parent while still retaining that respect baseline. very very important.

If child thinks weed is so okay then what's next? trying other drugs may not seem so hard. not always the case. I tried morphine, hydrocondone, DXM, tobacco and alcohol all before cannabis. I smoked herb for the first time right before freshman year in high school. Mi madre smoked and enjoyed weed when she was in high school and at various periods through out her life. She explained to me why she stopped smoking cannabis and how it affected many of her peers negatively. She is a very active person and likes to be alert so nicotine and uppers were more her thing. She didn't like that "stoned" feeling that I love. She quit everything years ago and now is high on life and has been for most of my life.

I grew up with friends that had parents who smoked with us and were always stoned on something or another. It was definitely a different relationship with their parents compared to mine. The line was blurred, was it positive or negative? it could go either way. There was good and bad.

The stoned parents always tried to steer us away from harder drugs but doing one thing and saying the other doesn't really get the message across.

It's good to be honest with your kids that's the truth. Drugs can be great but they can be bad. They shouldn't be the destination as they are for many. Respect the substances. If you are going to do them, learn about them, be honest about your use and don't lie. The biggest harm comes from shame and lying.

Its a tough world not everyone is a winner and not everyone is great at coping. Drugs can be ecstatic spiritual experiences but can also be a ball and chain form of escapism.

All I can say is promote knowledge, learn all you can, encourage others to learn all they can. Then its really up to the individual to make that informed decision.

 

[Deft]

Wait till they go to college IMO. If they smoke/drink within reason in high school so be it but not with the parents... Not till 18

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

its smart for parents to be honest with their kids about drugs.

the parents remember what kind of mischief they got into at that age and now want their kids to have the information they wished they had. It's a fine line though because a parent doesn't want to blur the line between friend and parent. The parents have to be both friend and parent while still retaining that respect baseline. very very important.

If child thinks weed is so okay then what's next? trying other drugs may not seem so hard. not always the case. I tried morphine, hydrocondone, DXM, tobacco and alcohol all before cannabis. I smoked herb for the first time right before freshman year in high school. Mi madre smoked and enjoyed weed when she was in high school and at various periods through out her life. She explained to me why she stopped smoking cannabis and how it affected many of her peers negatively. She is a very active person and likes to be alert so nicotine and uppers were more her thing. She didn't like that "stoned" feeling that I love. She quit everything years ago and now is high on life and has been for most of my life.

I grew up with friends that had parents who smoked with us and were always stoned on something or another. It was definitely a different relationship with their parents compared to mine. The line was blurred, was it positive or negative? it could go either way. There was good and bad.

The stoned parents always tried to steer us away from harder drugs but doing one thing and saying the other doesn't really get the message across.

It's good to be honest with your kids that's the truth. Drugs can be great but they can be bad. They shouldn't be the destination as they are for many. Respect the substances. If you are going to do them, learn about them, be honest about your use and don't lie. The biggest harm comes from shame and lying.

Its a tough world not everyone is a winner and not everyone is great at coping. Drugs can be ecstatic spiritual experiences but can also be a ball and chain form of escapism.

All I can say is promote knowledge, learn all you can, encourage others to learn all they can. Then its really up to the individual to make that informed decision.

couldnt have said it better myself

 

[SmilinBob]

Besides...they are at an age when it is impossible for them to make a decision like that for themselves

I know I said I wouldn't post again, and this is the last one.(unless I change my mind)

You said it better than I ever could.

How can you expect someone who hasn't experienced enough life to make a decision like this for themselves. YOU CAN'T.

I think it's irresponsible to say. Well, they smoke.. I'd rather them do it with me..

 

[kmk420kali]

I know I said I wouldn't post again, and this is the last one.(unless I change my mind)

You said it better than I ever could.

How can you expect someone who hasn't experienced enough life to make a decision like this for themselves. YOU CAN'T.

I think it's irresponsible to say. Well, they smoke.. I'd rather them do it with me..

Post all you want bro-- I am not one to hate--
But in that quote, I was talking about the kids in this pic--

And BTW...I don't advocate smoking with your minor children (Back to the 13 year old)...but I just don't think that if they do, and you smoke with them...that that alone makes you a bad parent--

 

[SacredTHCRitual]

I know I said I wouldn't post again, and this is the last one.(unless I change my mind)

You said it better than I ever could.

How can you expect someone who hasn't experienced enough life to make a decision like this for themselves. YOU CAN'T.

I think it's irresponsible to say. Well, they smoke.. I'd rather them do it with me..

I see where you are coming from but that's the crazy thing about life experience. Life in general is too short, life moves quickly and some choose to take the ride very young. They may not know 100% what they are getting in to but that's what makes it worth doing. I think it would be irresponsible to encourage the use of drugs, if doing it with them encourages it then it may not be a healthy relationship if they are under 18.

You shouldn't want your kids to do drugs with you period. But I'd rather be honest about my experiences. Mi madre always encouraged me to enjoy being a kid and young, don't grow up to fast. That's what the kids need to know.. They should know there are way more fun things to do at 13 than getting stoned. but hey They may need to learn this for themselves the hard way like the rest of us. Better they be informed. We are in an age of information and accessibility.


put it this way
Today it's cannabis, if kids don't feel comfortable talking to parents about that. Do you think they are going to come to the parent to get advice about other drugs they are offered?

The substances are all different, just because one works for you doesn't mean they all will. I've done them all. The substances should be understood and respected. The most dangerous ones are the ones that make you feel good, so good that you don't want to stop doing them. When you can stop you don't, when you want to, you can't type of deal. This should be explained. These things exist, they are real and play a big part in society.


Don't encourage drug use just educate. www.erowid.com

 

[TruthOrLie]

I had friends who died drunk driving in high school.

Had the parents been toking with them in junior high, I wonder if they'd be alive today.

I also wonder about the 3 dead passengers in the drunk driver's car.



But then again... I wonder, what if the parents of the driver WERE toking with them in junior high...


hmmmmmmmm.

 

[150hps]

Here is my take on this and will probably change once I have kids but I will share my current thoughts.

I would rather my hypothetical 13 year old kid did not smoke. In order to make this happen I think the best way to let them make their own decision is to not have the parents smoke or have marijuana present around the kids. I am not in favor of lying to your kids or presenting them with misinformation.

With that said say my child does show interest in smoking at 13 I would currently handle the situation by showing then all of information that I know about the plant and showing them the positives and negatives of what cannabis has to other. I would tell them that I want them to research it and then explain to me why they think them trying it is a good idea. If they go through the effort to show me why its good for them then the discussion will continue. If they are going to do it I would rather them get it in a safe way. I hope I will be able to show them that it is not really what they want to do at 13 but I suppose that really will all depend on whether they respect me enough to value what I tell them at that time. If they don't then I can only show them the safe way to do the activity.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

My son is 14.
We have always been open and honest with him.
He understands the reasons why he should wait, and is content to wait... for now.

He has friends at school who have stopped hanging out with him because he won't smoke with them... He also knows that said friends are going to regret that in a few more years.

Of course it is going to be an individual thing with each child... I'm fortunate, some kids would be gonna do it regardless of being well informed or not, but having always been open and honest, and having always been consistent in it, seems to have worked out well so far.

There are advantages to him knowing.
He's always careful when bringing friends over, for example.

Of course it is an individual choice and decision that every parent has to make for themselves, but smoking with your minor child is definitely irresponsible and not a good example... However, since I don't think or feel that there is anything remotely immoral about using cannabis, I don't think there is any reason to make my son feel that there is.


(funny related story: he came home one day laughing his ass off because his friend had paid alot of money for some "purple primo" and was telling him that it was the best you could get because the 'primo' meant it was harvested prematurely which makes it more potent... Of course he did not correct his friend, because he knows that he "shouldn't" know better.)

Thought I'd also throw in a bit more of my perspective.
Thing is not to be too extreme toward either direction.

My parents were divorces and remarried.
I knew they had both smoked when they were younger, and knew my dad still smoked. At 13 I had not smoked yet, but it was not too long thereafter. I was old enough to drive before I had the balls to ask the old man if he wanted to smoke some of the weed I had with me. He declined. Six months later when my mother found my micro grow in the space under the headboard of my waterbed, and asked m to find new accommodations, I moved in with dad and we began smoking together. He grew several nice plants in his back yard every summer, and some larf under t12 flouros a couple of winters in the garage before giving up on indoor. 15 years later after his back yard got robbed a couple autumns in a row, I finally talked him into setting up some HIDs and hydro. He's been rocking the hydro for a decade now, and is one of my closest friends. He says regrets smoking with me before I was 18, and thinks he should have waited. I knew where he hid it, though... not sharing wasn't really an option.

Mom still does not approve and has no clue I still do. We only really ever are able to communicate on a superficial level, since we disagree fundamentally about society, politics, and religion. I love her, of course, but do not really feel close to her at all nor do I ever expect to. I am very accepting of her regardless of her beliefs, however that is not a two way street.

In everything with your kids, balance and honesty are important, I guess that's the end of my 2¢. No real message, but maybe a relevant story...

 

[pistolvania420]

My buddies little 13yr brother smokes pot, not with his mom or anything but they never hid it from him. And 3 weeks ago he got expelled from middle school for getting caught with a bag of pot in school. Its pretty fucked up.

 

[TruthOrLie]

So, like all you haters of sharing marijuana (drugs) with your children...

...what about handing a glass of champagne on thanksgiving or christmas to the little ones?

 

[150hps]

So, like all you haters of sharing marijuana (drugs) with your children...

...what about handing a glass of champagne on thanksgiving or christmas to the little ones?

My house will be a dry house with regards to alcohol for both adults and children. I do not want it around my family.

 

[headband 707]

My house will be a dry house with regards to alcohol for both adults and children. I do not want it around my family.

LOL now that funny.. lol

 

[compost]

Well a child is still in puberty they should be abstaining from alcohol and drugs including alot of these BS pharmacy ones for ADD and such. During brain development the affects of these drugs is exasperated in the brain. As the child starts to leave puberty having a beer or smoking a joint is not a black and white issue. The childs actions and maturity level dictate when they are ready. My brother in law has let his oldest drink since he was 14 in MODERATION. If you talked to him for a few minutes you would see it was a no brainer. Now my step daughter I can't see myself smoking with her before she was 25.

 

[JohnnyATL]

i smoked when i was 13

 

[crazybear]

Head in the sand? I never sand do nothing. I sand whoop that kids ass and tell them this won't happen here or there.

It's not being a hypocrite if I'm much older, much wiser, and know what's good and bad, and what's safe and whats not safe. I lived and learned. I made mistakes and achievements, and teaching those to my kids is at the top of the list. Wether it's by grounding them, whooping, politely talking, whispering, or writing them a letter. Whatever works for the child is what should be done.

Again I never said I wouldn't smoke with my children, but a 13 year old child.. Yea, you are 100% correct. I'll be a hypocrite, an asshole, make their life miserable, or whatever else comes with keeping my kid safe.

I don't think for one second it's fucked up for someone that encourages anyone, ESPECIALLY someone that young, to do drugs to go to jail.



When you say misguided control freaks do you mean parents not wanting their 13 year old kid to smoke drugs?

I don't think cannabis is a drug! But I do think your a hypocrite! Your not keeping your kids safe, misinformed maybe safe no!

 

[headband 707]

I know this one is about the parent but I thought it was interesting

I know this one is about the parent but I thought it was interesting

Dr. Melanie Dreher, reefer researcher

By Pete Brady - Sunday, November 1 1998 Tags:

Despite political pressure to have it otherwise, Dr. Dreher's research reveals that pot-smoking moms can have smart, healthy babies.

Dr Melanie DreherWhen Dreher released solidly researched reports showing that children of ganja-using mothers were better adjusted than children born to non-using mothers, she encountered political and professional turbulence.
Dr. Melanie Dreher is one of a handful of scientists who have researched marijuana objectively and intelligently in the last three decades.
Dr Dreher is Dean of the University of Iowa's College of Nursing, and also holds the post of Associate Director for the University's Department of Nursing and Patient Services. She's a perpetual overachiever who earned honours degrees in nursing, anthropology and philosophy before being awarded a PhD in anthropology from prestigious Columbia University in 1977.
Although Dreher is a multi-faceted researcher and teacher whose expertise ranges from culture to child development to public health, she began early on to specialize in medical anthropology. After distinguishing herself as a field researcher in graduate school, Dreher was hand-picked by her professors to conduct a major study of marijuana use in Jamaica. Her doctoral dissertation was published as a book titled "Working Men and Ganja," which stands as one of the premier cross-cultural studies of chronic marijuana use.
Along with being a widely-published researcher, writer, and college administrator, Dreher is a professor or lecturer at several institutions, including the University of the West Indies. She recently served as president of the 120,000 member Sigma Theta Tau International Nursing Honour Society, has been an expert witness in a religious freedom case involving ganja use by the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church, and is one of the most well-respected academicians in the world.
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Governmental and private organizations, including the US State Department, have funded Dreher's many research projects, some of which focused on ganja's role in Jamaican culture, and the effects of ganja and cocaine on Jamaican women and children.
Dreher has impeccable credentials and a wealth of proprietary information on ganja use, but when she released solidly-researched reports showing that children of ganja-using mothers were better adjusted than children born to mothers who did not use ganja, she encountered political and professional turbulence. Some observers accuse the government and anti-pot groups of working to suppress her findings, but Dreher continues to speak openly about her research.
When Dreher spoke to Cannabis Culture from her office at the University of Iowa, she was affable and intriguing, pleasantly but firmly defending her right to study ganja use and to publish valid scientific findings regardless of political pressure.

 

[B. Friendly]

I used to come home high at that age, would of been nice to have understanding parents

I can say to the extent I am able, I'll want to be the first to introduce MJ to my children, rather than some geek looking to get high and upto no good.