Going to Bomb For Mites

[talktosamson]

here's the situation. I am at week 5 flowering of a 9 week cycle and the spider mites have been attacking my monster purple kush plant in my 5x5 tent for the last several weeks. I have tired azamax and don't bug me and neither has worked at all. So...I am going to bomb these bitches. I have never used one before, I know I am supposed to turn off the lights and turn off all the fans while I set the bomb off, but should I do it inside the tent being it is so small? Any advise? I went to southern Oregon and must have brought them back on my clothes. Want to kill them right now and I know a bomb will do this for me. I am also going to freeze them out for a few days and turn off my heater at night.

 

[dachieftan]

You DON'T want to directly spray your plants with those poisons. I learned that lesson hard way. I would personally take the plants out of the tent and bomb a bigger room if possible that way there is no actual liquid that spills on the leaves.

 

[bigbrokush]

What I have found that works is bleach and water on the walls and the floor the entire time that you are growing. Spray everyday and you'll kill them before they get to your plants.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I heard Oppenheimer was working on something...

 

[dunkydunk]

I've used pyrethrin bombs with great success to kill spider mites, but Dachieftan is right, if it sprays directly onto your plants it can leave splotches. A 5x5 tent is pretty small, so taking the plant out is a good idea, but it will be most effective to also bomb the tent. Try and make sure the can doesn't spray directly at the plant, try to aim it in the corner or something.

I set my bombs off during the dark cycle with everything shut down, so the room was undisturbed after the bomb went off for 8-12 hrs. I set off one a week for 3 or 4 weeks straight and I haven't seen a spider mite in a year. Like most garden pests, you have to interrupt their life cycle. A few eggs will always survive a fumigation, so you have to keep killing them even if you don't see them.

Maybe with a small tent like yours, one bomb could knock them down and then you could be diligent and follow up with bleach water or Safer soap to fully eradicate them.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

 

[talktosamson]

So you guys are thinking, take the plants in the house and bomb the whole garage with the doors to the tent open? I can even put the bomb close to the tent to ensure coverage. But what do I do about my infected plant? If I stop the life cycle in the garage will they eventually die off on the plant as well or should I continue to treat my sick plant with something?

 

[talktosamson]

Or should I move the plants into the garage and put the bomb in the tent? Sorry, in 3 years I have never had these bastards and I'm having a minor freak out as I have seen them devastate plants, and they are currently eating my wife's favorite strain so I need to murder them all...

 

[blahman]

I've used dr. doom in a few bad situations. Moved the plants away from the bottle maybe 3ft, let it go, didn't do much damage at all to the leaves, maybe a couple spots. But it did a number on the mites. Didn't eradicate them, but kept them down long enough for the grow to finish.

 

[dachieftan]

you want the bomb to be present in the same room as your infected plants but not to the point where the plants would get fried by the bomb. bomb on one end of room, plants on other end of room. Next you want to sanitize your whole area with whatever dissinfectants you chose (bleach and water is perfect if you don't care about bleach stains). Try lowering your temps and humidity so that you can control the mite breeding population. If you have a veg. room that is unaffected, I would keep that room as clean as possible (taking a shower before going in there). There are a lot more options with going to war with mites durring veg as oppose to bloom. If your veg room does get attacked, you can use predator nematodes and they will populate faster than the mites, eat them, and eat themselves once they eat all the mites. The only thing with predator mites is that they go into hibernation in a 12/12 light cycle so that is just fyi. Secondly, you shouldn't be spraying anything on your plants to kill the mites cuz that will be moisture on ur buds=moldy bud. So your only option is to bomb the bastards in phases. I say bomb once a week for three weeks And don't forget to disinfect with bleach! Good luck with your war. Trust me it will be a war! the art of war is to not start a war so be more careful in not letting this happen again. Good luck, and I hope you can win this one for wifey

 

[Madrus Rose]

Shock & Awe those little mites !!
(The final solution ! Let's nuke 'em !)

Always another mite thread comes along & peeps more new to growing always like the simple easy idea of using "THE BOMB" ! Worked on the Nazis in WWII ...barely worked on the Chinese /North Koreans ...certainly didn't work on the North Vietnamese , an American thing--->nuke the little bastiges , lol.

They (bombs) don't work , waste of money , waste of time & can hurt the plants ...just have to roll up sleaves , get in there & spray each plant from underneath with floramite or Avid with surficant (baby shampoo) for complete control .
Read labels etc...

Neem or Azamax will have to reapplied 3 times to achieve this religiously &
never a complete control ....but the organic way to go .

Song ***Lets Drop the BIG ONE*** its an american thing !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCim7mmLWRA

"political science"
Randy Newman

No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

 

[dachieftan]

Shock & Awe those little mites !!
(The final solution ! Let's nuke 'em !)

Always another mite thread comes along & peeps more new to growing always like the simple easy idea of using "THE BOMB" ! Worked on the Nazis in WWII ...barely worked on the Chinese /North Koreans ...certainly didn't work on the North Vietnamese , an American thing--->nuke the little bastiges , lol.

They (bombs) don't work , waste of money , waste of time & can hurt the plants ...just have to roll up sleaves , get in there & spray each plant from underneath with floramite or Avid with surficant (baby shampoo) for complete control .
Read labels etc...

Neem or Azamax will have to reapplied 3 times to achieve this religiously &
never a complete control ....& the organic ways to go .

Song ***Lets Drop the BIG ONE*** its an american thing !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCim7mmLWRA

First off, The United States didn't use a nuke on the nazis.... US dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki NOT Germany(nazis of that time). Secondly, when the hell did we use NUKES on china, korea, or vietnam. I know that we used dirty agent orange and napalm on the vietmanese but never a NUKE! And foremost, he said that he is already in flower! are you telling me that you risk coating your buds with a poison such as floramite? Your doing yourself a double whammy in my opinion. First your making your buds wet so there is a good chance that they will mold and you are smoking that final product of buds coated in poison. I could see if you strategically dipped leaves in the solution.... BUT SPRAYING HEAD TO TOE?! I agree that spraying with these products in VEG is more productive than bug bombing but we are in flower and IMO I don't see that as a beneficial solution.

Has anyone else had any luck with spraying your plants during FLOWERING? If so, then I gladly stand corrected.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I already posted the solution.

Ignore it if you like.

 

[purpleberry]

Its only a 5x5 tent. Pull all the plants out, trim off any leaves with heavy damage, take a wet papper towel and wipe down each leave to remave and smash any many as possible, repeat every 2-3 days, Clean the tent good when you have the plants out. If you have the funds find some co2 and use that in the tent to bomb them with, Turn your heater off unless its getting below 60. I wouldnt use the bomb, it will do more harm than good.
Go to ebay and get some miticide to use in veg only.

 

[Madrus Rose]

First off, The United States didn't use a nuke on the nazis.... US dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki NOT Germany(nazis of that time). Secondly, when the hell did we use NUKES on china, korea, or vietnam. I know that we used dirty agent orange and napalm on the vietmanese but never a NUKE! And foremost, he said that he is already in flower! are you telling me that you risk coating your buds with a poison such as floramite? Your doing yourself a double whammy in my opinion. First your making your buds wet so there is a good chance that they will mold and you are smoking that final product of buds coated in poison. I could see if you strategically dipped leaves in the solution.... BUT SPRAYING HEAD TO TOE?! I agree that spraying with these products in VEG is more productive than bug bombing but we are in flower and IMO I don't see that as a beneficial solution.

Has anyone else had any luck with spraying your plants during FLOWERING? If so, then I gladly stand corrected.

friend ,

Using -->"The Bomb" in examples of WWII , north Korea, V-Nam etc was a purely allegorical reference & injecting humorous irony into the thread . In the past we have readily resorted to massive "Bombing" campaigns, Napalm, Shock & Awe , mass incindiary shelling & bombing (google "Dresden WWII" ) ... to rest total & final victory from extended bitter conflicts ...such as we all have been involved with in fighting with these little pests .

Just saw it as funny parallel to world conflicts in the bigger scale , how when scaled down we still instinctively resort to the most lethal solution when dealing with smaller conflicts , such tiny insects that also pose a threat to our well being . When threatened or roused we are a lethal species & top predator ...like our chimpanzee cousins . Our ancestors in hunting troupes used bring down giant Mammoths for dinner !

( mellow Rolling Stones-->Monkey Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNY8eYmzdH4)



most dangerous creature by far...man

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I didn't mean it allegorically.... PM me in regards to purifying your uranium...

 

[High Country]

Don't set off the mite bomb with the HID light still on, otherwise you will have a BOMB! Heat and aerosol propellants can create an explosive mix, kind of like a fuel/air bomb and it could go off big time.

 

[Madrus Rose]

And foremost, he said that he is already in flower! are you telling me that you risk coating your buds with a poison such as floramite? Your doing yourself a double whammy in my opinion. First your making your buds wet so there is a good chance that they will mold and you are smoking that final product of buds coated in poison.

Has anyone else had any luck with spraying your plants during FLOWERING? If so, then I gladly stand corrected.

Yes u can spray flowering plants & get away with it & understand ur fears & concerns . Best solution is not to flower any plants that haven't been dipped at least twice from clone to juvenile plant stages in succession & have only mite free plants go into a flower space . Have been forced to spray flowering plants just recently & also hate having to do it to.

Spraying Flowering plants :

Yes this can be done without harming the flower nodes by taking plant in container , leaning it over exposing the leaf undersides & spraying upwards aiming just to cover those undersides avoiding any spray coming down ontop of the flower~sets . BY spraying from underneath upwards u can almost avoid completely getting any of the solution on the flowers themselves & avoid risking wetting them (too much) . The mites live on the undersides of the leaves anyways & thats where u want to spray for them . So lean the plant over & spray your chosen miticide/neem product from -->only from underneath upwards to the undersides of the leaves ...then u avoid wetting down the flowers.

Floramite can be used on tomatoes 3 days before harvest , so if he has 3wks to go not too much of an issue , the traces would be minimal . BUt if its a bigger concern for someone then use azamax/neem products for instance & spray as suggested .
(would never use floramite 3 days... or even 2wks b4 harvest, period )

best regards

mr

PS: Bombs/aerosols settle mostly down on the tops of the leaves doing no harm to the mites hiding underneath . The needed levels of concentrations of these in a space to effectively kill the mites underneath the plant usually prove toxic & damaging to the plant . Aerosols are never used in any pro greenhouse situation , to my knowledge for this very reason.

 

[Madrus Rose]

I didn't mean it allegorically.... PM me in regards to purifying your uranium...

You aren't suggesting resorting to -->Mean Mr Mustard's Gass ? ....

" Purified Uranium " ? Serious recipie ,
maybe don't wanna know , lol.

Seen many of ur posts , u have a fun , slightly wicked allegorical
sense of humor mate !

Then bombs away if u must , carry on !

(not my fight lol, but lets see in 2wks if those aerosols really worked for him )

 

[High Country]

Yep, the little shits hide underneath the leaves, they are very clever. I went away for 3 days recently and came back to find this on my mother plants.

THE BORG!