weed, seeds, and that special feeling

[igrowone]

appears i've run into my 1st hermie, had to happen eventually
the damage is done, but it got me to thinking about the seeded weed of years ago
i'm talking about the 70's/80's mexican/columbian days
and some of that seeded weed that was fine indeed
for me, there were the rare mexican's that had a special effect, almost too sweet for words

some think seeded weed is junk, other's have a different opinion(me, for one)
which brings me to my point/question, were some of those old mexican smokes better from being seeded?
do some strains have a different cannabinoid profile when ripened with seeds, maybe better?
i've seen some arguments, just curious about experiences
and i would be real curious if anyone ever had some seeded weed measured for thc/cbd levels

 

[imadoofus]

ive also fathomed that, being trichromes essentially are produced to protect seeds from the suns heat and radiation. most claim the plants resources are directed towards making seeds instead of bud formation... however, it is possible seed production could inhance the potency.

someone would have to do a side-by-side comparison, sames clones, seed one not the other, then send for testing. one of the tragic flaws on the cannabis scene is our unwillingness and arrogance regarding trying new things. i tried suggesting a test grow regarding light spectrum, a hps vs. mh vs. mh/hps vs mh veg/hps flower... wasnt received so well in chat.actually, i was attacked as a ignorant rookie and to take my stupid questions else where. which, amusingly, i will, when time allows.

 

[igrowone]

ive also fathomed that, being trichromes essentially are produced to protect seeds from the suns heat and radiation. most claim the plants resources are directed towards making seeds instead of bud formation... however, it is possible seed production could inhance the potency.

someone would have to do a side-by-side comparison, sames clones, seed one not the other, then send for testing. one of the tragic flaws on the cannabis scene is our unwillingness and arrogance regarding trying new things. i tried suggesting a test grow regarding light spectrum, a hps vs. mh vs. mh/hps vs mh veg/hps flower... wasnt received so well in chat.actually, i was attacked as a ignorant rookie and to take my stupid questions else where. which, amusingly, i will, when time allows.

much appreciated for braving the scorn of others, and having some thoughtful comments
the kind of testing you mention would be great, but i expect to be unlikely
certainly with seeded bud, your smokeable weight takes a hit, that is the belief anyways

but some of us remember some incredible seeded weed, and that is becoming a much less common experience these days
my quest isn't so much for power/potency, looking for a gentler touch that might benefit anxiety issues

 

[imadoofus]

potency, in the context concerning cannabis, is a truly vague term. the strongest weed isnt always the best!

but, youre definitely on to something. i would love to see results regarding lab tested seeded/ non-seeded.

 

[Blueshark]

Igrowone, interesting question. I have grown bag weed seeds out before and got rid of males, and the resulting seedless fems were always better than the parent stock. However, that may have been due to the fact that it was crossed with a better genetic profile than the mother in the wild...

Imadoofus is right, you would need to conduct a controlled grow with a side by side comparison... BTW, the only way we learn new things is to TRY new things. Doof, keep asking questions and looking for answers my brother... Don't let the haters discourage you. I think they were perfectly good questions, and have read about spectrum studies.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=23458

 

[igrowone]

thanks for the positive thoughts blueshark, the bagseed experience sounds fairly typical, i've seen a number of posts on this
was it the seedless part that made it better, or was it just better growing conditions, better light, nutrition?
tough to say for sure without careful comparisons
what i wonder is that since for so many years the bulk of MJ was raised for drug use with seeds, were these landraces optimized for best drug effect with seeded buds?

 

[imadoofus]

tribute the superior end results from bagseed to better harvesting and processing, which most reg weed isnt exposed to.

most crappy weed was, at one point, amazing, for the most part. quantity over quality during harvest, drying, then compressing takes it from 7-9 to a 3-5. i read this once years ago, on og. the poster made some extremely valid points regarding growing out bagseed, even nasty stuff, because honestly, you never know what youll get. this enticed me enough to try it, and sure was true. now, i always grow out bagseed. kinda fun rolling the dice, i love being surprised by what turn out sometimes.

 

[yesum]

DJ Short(breeder) wrote about seeded buds being 'better' in some cases. I do not think he meant more potent, but more complex.

The long flowering sativas are said to have the best highs, so that might be part of the equation.

 

[igrowone]

DJ Short(breeder) wrote about seeded buds being 'better' in some cases. I do not think he meant more potent, but more complex.

The long flowering sativas are said to have the best highs, so that might be part of the equation.

i had not read that, but very good info, thanks for that tidbit
i guess that's what i'm looking for, changing some of the bud's power into a lower anxiety effect

 

[Blueshark]

Yesum, I hadn't thought about it in the way you and DJ had. It makes sinse (LOL) that hormones and, of course, the chemical make-up of the THC would be different with the production of seeds too. Perhaps even change the flavor to something more 'layered'... Some of the best I've smoked have had 2, 3 even 4 different distinct flavors and/or aftertaste... Sooooo many things to consider!!!

 

[Warped1]

When I first started smoking..seeds were a given..and why we threw them out is beyond me lol..What I wouldn't give for some Columbian, or Acapulco gold ..ahhh the ignorance of youth

 

[igrowone]

kind of amazed of the positive feedback so far, thanks for the posts
been thinking about the trends over time, in particular with indoor growing, sinsemilla is the rule and smoking a seeded bud has become fairly rare
but if some strains were better seeded, how would we know?