What is G13 ?

[White Goodman]

Hello, I watched 'American Beauty' last night and Kevin Spacey buys some stuff from a guy who says it is G13, bred by the government, and that it has no paranoia or anxiety.
Then he sells him a 1/4 ounce or something for $2000??
I have had a bit of a look around and was surprised that there are actually some real strains called G13, or G13 crosses.
So, basically i was just wondering what the real story is, is it 'Super genetically modified' blah, blah, blah as the movie says or is it just another, strain?

Thanks, and regards.

 

[cannaboy]

ALLEGEDLY It came from growroom 13,,

 

[Guywithoutajeep]

Here ya go, I copied this from another forum.

"Hey everyone,
I figured it was going to be done at some point in the future, so might as well get the ball rolling. G13 is probably one of the most heralded varietys of all time in the cannabis community. Its a variety that has obtained mythical and legandary proportions. Part of the mystique surrounding why this variety is so legendary is its said history. As the story goes, G13 is a government breed(developed, engineered even) variety from the University of Mississippi which apparently has authorization from the US government to do research on marijuana. This is a verifiable fact, that was recently reported on world wide by the AP. The story later goes on to say that G13 is a clone that was liberated from greenhouse #13, hentz the name G13. The clone is said to have circulated commercially around that area of the United States before making its way to Neville at the Seedbank. It is also a documented fact that Neville was the first to market the G13 to the masses in hybrid form because the G13 was only available in female clone form.

The hybrids Neville released included G13xSkunk#1, G13xNorthern Lights, G13xHashplant, G13xHaze and G13xWhite Widow, there may have infact been other hybrids released but that is just off the top of my head. You dont even have to be a marijuana user to know that G13 is said to be strong marijuana, infact that is another part of why it has achieved legendary status. Its potency is said to be quite strong, which gave the story even more creedance when the story was past on from stoner to stoner. This variety was even mentioned in the movie, "American Beauty" and was also outrageously priced! (I have told that kid he was out of his mind personally).

So in summary so far, G13 has an interesting history on top of being quite powerful marijuana and it was released and ultimately made famous by Neville at the Seedbank in the 80's. Neville is said to have worked with Sensi seeds around the early 90s and the original G13 mother was lost. So the only varietys left that are traceable to the G13 that is responsible for the legend picking up steam are the subsequent hybrids he released to the public.

Fast forward to today, there are dozens of companies who claim to have a G-13 variety or G13 hybrid. Look no further then seedbanks like Doc Chronic and Gypsy Nirvana to find several companies advertizing a G13 line. Some of these G13s are mislabeled on purpose to mislead the customer. There is infact no such thing as a "G13" that is available to the public anymore. Only hybrids, so be aware when you see a company advertizing a hybrid as "G13 x grapefruit" for example. Because what you are realling dealing with is a G13 hybrid of unknown origin x grapefruit. The seedbanks are riddled with such claims and more all involving the original G13. To use an actual claim as an example of what to be suspicious of when researching are claims such as this one:
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Scrappy2
Some years ago, mysterious seeds were inside the mailbox of my donor, with a california postmark on it.. The package contained seeds marked G-13.
He has bx'd This to the original Mom or "sport".
Now he is giving me a chance at her, because I believed in seeds of her since the early 80's. I knew there were seeds and they came to me eventually.
The product is virtually the same as what we bought in 1980 for 60 70 a quarter when skunk and humbolt were 45 and prevalent even in san diego...
I would always be asking when dudes brother in law was coming to visit from mississippi, where he worked for the university..
THis is not from him, but the same as what he had in 1980.
My pallatte remebers her....If this is a selected pheno it's damnn good work.
But I always heard there were seeds in the 70's. Seeds being held back and re-bred pure every few years or decade... Seeds to be given in the future.. The cuts were given freely in america at the time for those "in the know". The cuts were sent out
so every decade or so, whover was chosen to recieve a crack at the seeds would Know the pure from matching it to the cut.
The cuts were from a sport mutation and being an anomoly it was desireable to spread it in cut form... No seeds were guaranteed to produce a sport, so the seeds were stashed for posterity..
This is the truth I have gleaned from legend. This is the "best" you could find in so cal in the early 80's, by far.
I been growing her about 2 years or so..
My tolerance is hell, WE smoked a whole quarter round to half dollar round thai stick before school every day of ninth grade between 3 other people..
I know my bud...I was class of 80. so like from 1976 and 1977- about all i remeber is ronnie van zant died in a plane crash.
I knew back then id do this too, But could only dream of finding some seeds to the g-13 as they were held back and no-one admitted to having them.
It took a long time for me to pry any information out of the brother in law, but I got my story in the early 80's...
And i'm stickin to it.
tiedye

I write this not as an expert on G13, but as someone who was extremely interested in this variety due to is origins and legendary potency. I made it my business to understand who had some legitimate G13, and who had some mystery varietys labeled G13 but could offer nothing of substance to back up their claims of having such a variety. From what I understand, you can acquire hybrids legitimately related to the G13 from Sensi Seeds(G13xHashplant), Soma Seeds(G13xHaze male) and Mr. Nice seeds(G13xSkunk#1, G13xWidow). From reading the forums for years, it is generally agreed upon that the Sensi Seeds G13xHashplant aka Mr.Nice has lost some of its guster in recent years. Somas G13xHaze male is said to have been found in a small handful of seeds given to him by Ed Rosenthal which were in turn gifted to Ed by Neville(as I understand the story to be). This was a Haze dominant G13 hybrid, but non the less it has some legitimate claim in my eyes if the story is true. And there is the Mr. Nice G13 hybrids, which are infact worked on by Shantibaba and Neville here at the Mr. Nice camp. I dont think anything else needs to be said about this revelation.

Now as someone who wanted to put his money into the sure bet that what I was getting was G13, I did alot of research before looking to purchase the variety. Anytime you are looking to purchase a variety, you should do research first. I pretty much arrived to the conclusions I am stating here in this thread years ago, as it was clear where my best shot was at obtaining legitimate G13. Decyphering all of the propaganda out there on the net can be hard, there are alot of people who claim to have something but yet rely on nothing more then hearsay as evidence to their varietys supposid origin. As someone spending some money on a variety, hearsay isnt good enough for me. I want to know who has what, where they got it and if its worth the money they are asking for it. That to me is a perfectly logical line of thinking when considering a purchase on anything in reality.

There are varietys such as the LG13 and the Airbourne G13 which are said to be the real deal G13 cuts. But neither of these varietys can be authenticated as being legitimate, and in particular the LG13 bares little to no resemblence to the original G13 hyrbids. While the Airbourne G13 is said to be the G13xNorthern Lights hybrid Neville released years ago, again there is no solid evidence other then visual inspection to authenticate these claims. And there are folks who have varietys they call G13, sometimes multiple unrelated varietys they have labled G13 which infact are not related to the original G13 what so ever. Its just a name they picked, to identify an above average specimen. This is the case of Pacific G13, which I discussed at length with her privately and the information presented above were the results of my inquiry. There is also the Socal G13
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Another semi-known G-13 is the SoCal G-13, which is said by a few to be better than the pacific/airbourne cuts, but the SoCal G-13 is a highly guarded clone kept in small circles supposedly, and you probably wont see it on the market anytime soon - unless someone like sugenite do some crosses like with the pure kush and sell it for 1000. Good luck with that though. lol

which many claim to be the real deal as well, but yet have nothing to offer other then hearsay about the authenticity of these varietys. While they may infact be good, there is little evidence to support their lineage.

In conclusion there are alot of companies and individuals claiming to have something they do not. Some of these claims, rely on hearsay only to authenticate the origins of their strains. While others are simply making stories up in an effort to sell a variety quicker, or in order to gain some type of fame or furtune by possessing something which is deemed rare and elusive. There are people who have something very special marijuana wise, but use the G13 monicur in an effort to promote their variety as something it is not. There are others who just want to take advantage of the legend of G13 to sell seeds quicker as well, it is up to you the consumer to decifer who has what and if it is worth spending the next 3-4 months of your life growing. But all of the varietys on the market that have legitimate status can be traced back to Nevilles G13 either here at Mr. Nice or the Seedbank. Everyone else is relying on hearsay evidence to support their claims of G13, and in my opinion a majority of those folks are out for your money, not offering you something that is of a legitimate nature."

 

[whodair]

What is G13 ?

some afghani ...

 

[supermanlives]

the g13 i got a while back was potent but wasnt very tasty and the high while powerfull was boring.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

G stinks in a bad way. Like old gym socks and assorted stenches. I heard that it was listed as G 13 for Government and the 13 was just a numbered plant that had been formerly A 13 for Afghanica 13 but the A was switched to G because of saleability/cool legend status.

I'm pretty sure everyone can agree it came out of Mississippi's research... if they can agree it even exists...

PS As for that little bastard in American Beauty charging astronomical amounts because of some indica's notoriety.... I don't believe it for a minute. He would have had his smug face bashed in long before he could ever think of saying that in front of Lester.

 

[White Goodman]

thanks people, so it is nothing major, just a potent old afghani?

 

[cannaboy]

I was going to say Its like skunk number 1 but made from Afghani's true breeding and all.

 

[yortbogey]

just try this................by..............DGS

https://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=25&products_id=2394

 

[Herbalista]

G-for government, 13 - for the 13 th letter of the alphabet{m}.Nice myth if ever there was one.

 

[motaco]

I heard it was all a propaganda story cooked up to sell seeds. That it was a story written by a fellow who was making a collection of fictional marijuana adventures for a book he was writing and never got published. A few of the stories are still urban legend from what I understand. G13 being the main one.

In reality g13 is like someone previously mentioned. A powerful but boring stone, and other than that nothing to write home about. Generic smell, medium yields.

 

[Guywithoutajeep]

Wow completely brain dead...

Here's an article from CNN with a funny picture of weed in flasks.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-05-18/...en_1_marijuana-drug-abuse-cameras?_s=PM:CRIME

Its known that the University of Mississippi is doing the governments growing and has been since the 60's. What cannot be proven is if the female clone that came from their facility actually made it into Neville's hands.

Here's another link from Miss. on the Marijuana Potency Monitoring Project. Nice little report there.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/pdf/mpmp_report_104.pdf

I concur that G13 aint all that.

 

[Lazyman]

I just got some cuts of G13XHaze from a buddy, thing produces GIANT frosty colas in even smaller plants. Can't wait to grow a handful of them, they are pretty tall and skinny, fat indica leaves, little to no side branching. Since the colas are so big you HAVE to spray something like Eagle20 on the girls regularly or they will rot from the inside out even in a low-RH room. Buddy says they run about 9 weeks but sometimes as long as 11, I would imagine depending on temps etc. I'll post pics in my 16kw thread when I start cloning my 4 babies up.