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Some strains not easy to clone?

Nicoli

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jwhy do u avoid rooting hormes? i would love to hear ur opinion.

because you can stuff a cutting into straight pro-mix hp and have explosive growth in 10 days, everytime, like clockwork, why would i purchase something extra?

I like simple. I have never lost a cutting with this method, ever.
 

one Q

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oh my, i must be more specific to make u understand i think.

OK YOU have a mother plant that is hard to clone.

Take her and paint her branches with rooting gel.

Do this where you will be cutting clones eventually.

Paint the gel on the stem of the plant BEFORE you cut it off!

Leave it alone!

in 7-10 days the stem of the branch that you painted will develop little root nubs on the outside of the stem/branch.

This is what you have been waiting for. Now it is time to cut your clone.

Cut it and paint it again with rooting gel and stick in rooting medium.

Rooting Gel when applied to a live branch will affect the hormones in the branch causing it to develop little white bumps all over the outisde of the stem. These are your future roots.

Once these root bumps are put in a moist environment, BAM they develop into roots in 1-2 days, and thus you have a clone that only takes the usual 7 days to root and it is not gonna wilt.

problem solved Steve..

This is a tidbit of good info Lola, thanks. If you would help with a question...

Now, when painting the stem of the plant while still on the mum, does this need to happen more than once? Should one paint the stem every couple of days, or just the one time and wait 7-10 days for bumps?

@Nicoli This is a good reason to have some rooting SOMETHING on hand. Just get a small powder, gel, whatever... and only use it on the CJones. At the very least see if if makes a difference. If not, it's just a few bucks... If so, it's a few bucks well spent to ensure healthy gals.

Damn, not trying to sell you on the idea, but that feeling of being unsure if they will make it is heart wrenching. To me seeing them healthy the whole time is worth the extra few.

Peace.
 

*Lola*

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Usually one painting with cloning gel is all u will need to make this work.

The little root nubs will show up in about 7 days. This allows you to get clones easier and root quicker. Works like a charm.

And the best part is it is still on Mamma the whole time so it gets nutrients the whole time it is developing root nnubs.

This works on all MJ plants, hard to clone or not.

:)

p.s. If you don't have cloning gel, u can make it with KY Jelly and rooting powder :)
 

headband 707

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smokefrogg, i doubt it has anything to do with it, i get 100% on every other strain. i still get 100% on casey jones, it just takes FOREVER. as my original post states, its a very unhappy strain when its cloned.

rooting gel is not required to root cannabis cuttings, never has been, never used it, never will. i get 100% thick insane roots in 10 days from every other strain except from casey jones. it's clearly a genetic issue.

:) :) oh wells. :)

Yeah you can do it without the hormones this is very true>>> The reason you use the hormones is you want as many root sites on your stem as possible . It's really just a matter of more is better and in this case that is true. You really don't need the expensive shit either . The Wal-Mart gel is just as effective as anything else it's the hormones in it. Don't contaminate your gel and all should be fine.
If you don't have any gel or powder and you do have a Willow tree this has the exact same hormone you are looking for for rooting.
The idea is to make the plant as strong as you possible can right from the beginning.
Some plants do take longer then 8 to 10 days to root This usually means the cutting is having a hardtime with it and in many cases if you hold on for 14 days lets say and it finally roots you will find that the plant is just a slow grower never finding it's stride. It's the way of the world with cannabis peace out Headband707:tiphat:
 
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smokefrogg

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smokefrogg, i doubt it has anything to do with it, i get 100% on every other strain. i still get 100% on casey jones, it just takes FOREVER. as my original post states, its a very unhappy strain when its cloned.

rooting gel is not required to root cannabis cuttings, never has been, never used it, never will. i get 100% thick insane roots in 10 days from every other strain except from casey jones. it's clearly a genetic issue.

:) :) oh wells. :)

right on, guess you got things all sorted then, hope it works out well
 

headband 707

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Lola quote:p.s. If you don't have cloning gel, u can make it with KY Jelly and rooting powder

is that used or fresh KY Gel lol?
 

*Lola*

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KY jelly is water soluble :D

one ounce of KY jelly with one tablespoon of rooting powder.

Mix well. Sterile unused KY jelly is recommended! :)

You want a nice mix that paints well.

Or you can go out and BUY cloning gel. It's the same thing :D
 

smokefrogg

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bwahahaha, man that's funny

seriously lola, thank you, i had no idea ky would be safe for something like this and never would've thought of that
 

*Lola*

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oh, forgot to tell you, you may have to put a couple of drops of water in there to get the consistency right if it is too thick.
 

Nicoli

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I hear ya guys, different strokes for different folks.

Lola, KY Jelly!

Lola is the macgyverstress of cannabis. :eek:
 

*Lola*

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I hear ya guys, different strokes for different folks.

Lola, KY Jelly!

Lola is the macgyverstress of cannabis. :eek:

i LOVE it :D hahahahaha so true.

hey they are just plants, don't hurt to experiment on em a lil :)

IN THIS EPSIDODE OF MACGUYVERESS OF CANNABIS:
Stranded on a desert island McGuyveress has a bag of weed but no papers! OH NO!
MacGuyveress shows you how to make a bong out of bamboo and parts from sea cucumbers ;)
 

headband 707

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I hear ya guys, different strokes for different folks.

Lola, KY Jelly!

Lola is the macgyverstress of cannabis. :eek:


I wonder how hormonal the women has to be for the clones to take LOL
If you take from premenopausal women .. do you end up with clones that bit your head off?? LOL:)
 

*Lola*

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that's so lame! :D hahahahaha

Now when looking for a water soluble gel that would make a good cloning gel, what else would one substitute for cloning gel?

don't knock it till u try it.
 

*Lola*

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OK, Here is a copy of some info from the Olivia's cloning gel site below.

Q: What is in the Gel?
A:Basically it is a balanced blend of rooting agents and N.P.K. that are contained in a viscous, inert, water soluble gel base.

end quote

ok inert, viscous, water soluble gel base = ky jelly to me.. ssame difference hahaha
 

stoney917

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rotfflmao. some funny shit .. i bet it does work . im gonna give it a shot for shits and giggles side by side with gel and nothing and see. im gonna be taking bout 30 lvpk cuts and 30 98bubs in bout 2 wks..should be interesting.
do i need i need to get the momma drunk before i pull out the ky?
 

OjoRojo420

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I also don't use anymore cloning gels or powders of any sort.

Anyway, I've found that Blueberry dominant strains are harder to clone than Sativa counterparts.

Not impossible but loss rate is much higher than NL#5 or SK#1 dom plants.

Have you followed the Moon cycle as to when to take clones?

It works.
 

*Lola*

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You don't have to get the Momma drunk, but please play some Issac Hayes tunes when you whip out the KY hahahah
 

redspaghetti

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You wait for 30 days, Nic ? you have a lot of patience my friend,,

Most of my cuts will have root with in 10 days, if they go past 14 days they get yank, i've been doing this for a while and threw a lot of rooted cut ( but weak ) away, and now i do notice the survival rate for my cuts went up and root fast ...

hope that help again

o ye rooting gels help as well, they're cpl bucks but you could always plant them in moist dirt and wait a while for root :D:D

cheers,
red.
 
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