Killed over a bag of weed

[hamstring]

It's funny...with people like yourself, at least on this forum, platitudes such as this one abound...but I've yet to see anyone offer a solution instead of whining like an angsty high schooler. Anyone so vehemently opposed to government surely has done some thinking on a "better way" -- right? Any ideas, or are you just complaining on an anonymous forum like the rest of the lazy stoners who continue to shit all over this "movement"? come on guys, get a grip

Hey brother what are you talking about offer some solutions. Did you read the post???? Here let me help you with some bold.

Just because you don’t agree with the solutions please don’t try and make them disappear. So now let me guess your next comment will be how these solutions aren’t “realistic” or “stupid”, ok fine but first acknowledge that they are there and then you "have some skin in the game".

We taught our kids to never open the door to anyone and I don’t give a shit if its cops, no one!!!! The world has changed cops don’t look out for you, You look out for you. In my city cops don’t even have to live in the same county so how in the hell do they emphasize with my life.

They drive around in cars on cell phones talking to their friends all day. They are so far removed from the people they are supposes to protect. You want people to trust cops put them on the walking beat in the neighborhoods they are protecting. Make them live in the same county for gods sake how stupid is that.

Why don’t people trust cops because they know better. If someone breaks into your home the cop finds a joint who gets in trouble???? You are chattle to them they are so far removed from the human concept its crazy. You think that there is any cop who doesnt have a pot smoker in his family?? Not possible we all do. You have to be part of the community to feel for that community.

Any one and I mean anyone that says cops give a rat’s ass about you or your neighborhood are lost. You have to be part of something, “put skin in the game” as they say before I trust you.

Its not about protecting "you" because "you" dont live around me "you" arent from where I live and I could care less if your nieghborhood is a piece of shit.

FUCK the SYSTEM and anyone who thinks its working.

 

[jd4083]

its cushy in the burbs right jd?

I wouldn't know.

 

[jd4083]

Hey brother what are you talking about offer some solutions. Did you read the post???? Here let me help you with some bold.

Just because you don’t agree with the solutions please don’t try and make them disappear. So now let me guess your next comment will be how these solutions aren’t “realistic” or “stupid”, ok fine but first acknowledge that they are there and then you "have some skin in the game".

We taught our kids to never open the door to anyone and I don’t give a shit if its cops, no one!!!! The world has changed cops don’t look out for you, You look out for you. In my city cops don’t even have to live in the same county so how in the hell do they emphasize with my life.

They drive around in cars on cell phones talking to their friends all day. They are so far removed from the people they are supposes to protect. You want people to trust cops put them on the walking beat in the neighborhoods they are protecting. Make them live in the same county for gods sake how stupid is that.

Why don’t people trust cops because they know better. If someone breaks into your home the cop finds a joint who gets in trouble???? You are chattle to them they are so far removed from the human concept its crazy. You think that there is any cop who doesnt have a pot smoker in his family?? Not possible we all do. You have to be part of the community to feel for that community.

Any one and I mean anyone that says cops give a rat’s ass about you or your neighborhood are lost. You have to be part of something, “put skin in the game” as they say before I trust you.

Its not about protecting "you" because "you" dont live around me "you" arent from where I live and I could care less if your nieghborhood is a piece of shit.

FUCK the SYSTEM and anyone who thinks its working.

Hey, I don't disagree with any of the bolded...what I'm wondering is HOW to implement these changes you want to see happen...because that's the battle. Brainstorming is easy, change is NOT. Repped ya, btw.

 

[headband 707]

So with this us vs. them mentality, are any of "us" at fault, or is it just Big Brother? Is personal responsibility something growers are supposed to shed when they pop their first bean?

I don't know bro would you want to die or be locked up for 6 years -25 years for anything to do with cannabis? Why do you think the Gov is after ppl that smoke cannabis. I mean really why??? cause they are dangerous or bad or do bad things to ppl. No none of those things.. because they can't tax it and they make a killing off of locking you up and keeping the boys in blue in their jobs. Making you a criminal is just an after thought and a consequence of their situation. The fact that cannabis is even on the cops radar is bad enough...
Now the other side of the coin the guy that goes out and grows his own bud .. OMG how could he/she do this?? In this economy where they have looked after us so well for soooo long how can we even think of helping ourselves . Damn were stupid LOL.. Now go listen to the song by Ky Mani Marley "The March" peace out Headband707

 

[Dojo]

I wouldn't know.

I know you wouldnt...i bet all your law men in your area know everyone by name and vise versa

 

[Hydrosun]

I hate these cop bashing threads, they dont do anything except perpetuate hatred.

I dont see any weed in the video, nor do i see any weed mentioned in the article below. As far as i can hear from the conversation between the cop and the guys outside of the screen, the cop asks numerous times whether they have anything illegal something they deny numerous times.

The actual shooting takes place outside of the frame of the video, its impossible to see what happens exactly at the time of the shooting.


I think the thread is stupid, it seems to try to connect a cop shooting to weed without there seemingly being any proof that weed had any relevance in the case. The thread only works to perpetuate the dogma that cops want to shoot weed smokers and serves to increase paranoia among smokers. Paranoia generally makes us do silly things, the thread sucks, i dont need any more noia then i already have!!

I love PIG bashing threads. They remind us that the PIGS are the enemy and should be killed before they kill us.

Pigs that kill are not just a concern to this weed community they are a concern for all citizens.

What is wrong with perpetuating the TRUTH that PIGS kill WAY MORE INNOCENTS annually than their unfortunately low death on the job rate.

The guy in the WA diner wasn't a weed grower to my knowledge, but when he popped the pigs and didn't even point his gun at anyone else; I didn't feel the slightest sadness for the fallen enemy.

 

[jd4083]

I know you wouldnt...i bet all your law men in your area know everyone by name and vise versa

Not quite, but close enough. Believe it or not though, I dun lived in the big city once er twice in my life, hyuck hyuck!

 

[hamstring]

Hey, I don't disagree with any of the bolded...what I'm wondering is HOW to implement these changes you want to see happen...because that's the battle. Brainstorming is easy, change is NOT. Repped ya, btw.

WHAT???? That’s not what you said in your last post. Changing your statement to fit your needs??? See below oh and I underlined some of the really helpful statements you made. I knew you would appreciate it.Put some skin in the game brother

Hey, I vote locally always that’s how changes are made. Please tell me what your solutions are if you agree with me. That is what you said correct????
"Hey, I don't disagree with any of the bolded...”

Please enlighten me with your ideas i ask no more than you just did. Let me see if I can poke some holes in your comments. It will be tough I know but I am willing to give it a try.

"It's funny...with people like yourself, at least on this forum, platitudes such as this one abound...but I've yet to see anyone offer a solution instead of whining like an angsty high schooler."

 

[jd4083]

Maybe I'm high, but I'm not sure what you're asking here. Not really clear on how my saying that brainstorming is easy but implementing changes is not contradicts any previous statements. Could you expound?

 

[Hydrosun]

Uh, don't group all of us on this forum into your little umbrella of ignorance. Some of us who have had successful lives as contributing members of society despite our hobbies don't go with the "Us vs. Them" mentality because we live in the real world, not this Orwellian fantasy world that you have created.

Last I heard Appalachia was ANYTHING but the real world. Please group me with the pig haters and not the clowns who think they "Contribute to Society." What a fucking joke that is; go to the pancake breakfast and think you actually contributed ANYTHING.

Don't brag about how much you contribute, just work hard take care of your family and FEEL FREE to contribute NOTHING to my life, I'll take care of my own and stay the fuck away from "Your Society." Maybe then you can have LESS PIGS on YOUR payroll (did I thank you for contributing to that society yet?).

 

[jd4083]

Last I heard Appalachia was ANYTHING but the real world. Please group me with the pig haters and not the clowns who think they "Contribute to Society." What a fucking joke that is; go to the pancake breakfast and think you actually contributed ANYTHING.

Don't brag about how much you contribute, just work hard take care of your family and FEEL FREE to contribute NOTHING to my life, I'll take care of my own and stay the fuck away from "Your Society." Maybe then you can have LESS PIGS on YOUR payroll (did I thank you for contributing to that society yet?).

You're so angry. I've heard that MMJ might help your issues with hypertension, have you considered a doctor's recommendation?

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

This breaks my heart!! With everything we've learned in history when dealing with authorities WHY THE FUCK was he approaching that cop??? Why didn't the police just ask then to sit on the ground till the information they requested return??? This is shitty police work here. You need to detain you subject immediately to prevent movement!!!!! Both officers need to be removed but the perp should have never walked close to the plain clothes cop. If I were a cop I would have felt as if he'd try and subdue me. If I were a cop I'D OF SAT THEIR ASSES ON THE GROUND AND THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!

Perp?

 

[Sacred Warrior]

http://jacksonville.com/video/news/...-stop-nassau-county-where-ray-bodden-was-shot

At no point in the video did I see that guy make a move. Hands were down. Amazingly sad.

btw i didn't see the important part and that was the shooting itself and what the bikers did right before the shooting. it seemed like after he wanted to search them.pat them down things they didn't want to cooperate ( by what you hear on tape). then they went off camera.

as tragic as this may be they will never get a cop over this incidence unless his buddy tells a very convincing story. at least not by the video tape. that tape didn't show jack that was really relevant.

seems like the probation/parole violation was more important then his life @ the time.

I feel to say he got shot over a bag of weed is plain wrong . seems like he got shot because of his stupidity & the officers fear. imho.
said i know, but avoidable too imho.

and yes , sumdumguy is right. always sit them down as you point the iron at them to make sure all is well. and eys, i said have your gun trained on them as you direct them to sit down.

i hate cops,mainly because they love to over step their boundaries & can't be trusted; but frankly if you are a cop these days fear rules! cops have paled a huge roll in making this fear situation the norm. yet we also know that dick heads who want to hurt them have played a role in this common scenario too.

 

[hamstring]

No maybe I am high but I have yet to see you put any skin in the game by providing your solutions. I also don’t see you acknowledging that your statments are far from informative and more antagonistic. PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Once you throw down a couple of suggestions/solutions you will see how VERY easy it is to poke holes and make fun rather than provide real solutions PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Come on JD4083 lets see your suggestions???? You asked me I provided you with some lets see yours or are you -----------quote , "whining like an angsty high schooler"

 

[hamstring]

No maybe I am high but I have yet to see you put any skin in the game by providing your solutions. I also don’t see you acknowledging that your statments are far from informative and more antagonistic. PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Once you throw down a couple of suggestions/solutions you will see how VERY easy it is to poke holes and make fun rather than provide real solutions PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Come on JD4083 lets see your suggestions???? You asked me I provided you with some lets see yours or are you -----------quote , "whining like an angsty high schooler"

Can JD come out to play Mrs 4083??

 

[jd4083]

No maybe I am high but I have yet to see you put any skin in the game by providing your solutions. I also don’t see you acknowledging that your statments are far from informative and more antagonistic. PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Once you throw down a couple of suggestions/solutions you will see how VERY easy it is to poke holes and make fun rather than provide real solutions PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

Come on JD4083 lets see your suggestions???? You asked me I provided you with some lets see yours or are you -----------quote , "whining like an angsty high schooler"

My suggestion? Folks should stop blaming everybody else for their issues, and learn to take personal responsibility for their own actions...then we can discuss change. I don't have any more ideas than the rest of you, I just know a bad idea when I see one.

 

[hamstring]

My suggestion? Folks should stop blaming everybody else for their issues, and learn to take personal responsibility for their own actions...then we can discuss change. I don't have any more ideas than the rest of you, I just know a bad idea when I see one.

How easy is that no solutions just a generalities come on you used a bunch of big words in your other posts.

Dude you’ve got to be kidding me. You make it so plainly obvious that your ideas are to punch holes in everyone else’s.


Come ONNNNN you just blasted me for having no solutions and this is your answer. I learned a long time ago when your wrong your wrong. Man how sophomoric is that a big enough word to make me sound right.

That’s just what we all need to quote you, whining like an angsty high schooler"

 

[jd4083]

Devil's advocate, surely. Isn't that the idea of a true argument, though? Not an angry bar brawl political debate, a real discussion between two parties who are at once vehemently in favor of their own side and vehemently opposed to the other. I say one thing, you punch holes in that statement; we reverse sides, wash, rinse, repeat. Am I being too idealistic?

 

[hamstring]

What!!! Dude you should read your other posts don’t you know when your wrong???

I can tell you a young god bless you I miss being young.
You just keep contradicting yourself over and over again. Here we are lets post something you said.

Uh, don't group all of us on this forum into your little umbrella of ignorance. Some of us who have had successful lives as contributing members of society despite our hobbies don't go with the "Us vs. Them" mentality because we live in the real world, not this Orwellian fantasy world that you have created.

I guess you too are living in a Orwellian society if you think that’s how debate works.

Number one your not debating because you have ZERO of you own ideas. Dude come on pull out something out of your own and stop plagiarizing everyone else’s ideas. I now you have something you thought up in there right??? Do some research, how damn easy is it play off others peoples comments. Very easy see how easy (me)and when someone’s older and wiser(not smarter) they see through you.

 

[hamstring]

I’m done because I know how you young uns will keep looking for a loophole to feel good about your whole thesis so the floor is yours have fun. Beat the shit out me I wont answer you back and therefore you must be right.