people on dole to be forced into work

[DocLeaf]

Signed-on as a teen,, cause it was free,, but was always in full-time education. Back then i remember having to politely ask for "Someone that speaks English" at the job-centre,, cause i flatly refuse to communicate with people that don't have a basic understanding of the words they are using.., lol

Also signed on after my degree,,, primarily to get the money i had to pay on tuition fees back.. after that we told them to stick the UB40 up their **** ! Haven't been back since.

Job Centre,,, no thanks,,, we gave ourselves jobs,, so we're our own boss,, and dont have to answer to those *****!

I still resent paying council taxation, so that scubbers can get housing benefit,. that's just BS.

peace

 

[shafty420]

mate don't get me startin on council tax payed it yesterday £100 down the swanny and what do i get back from it my bin emptied once a fortnight THANKS

 

[rocky5]

mate don't get me startin on council tax payed it yesterday £100 down the swanny and what do i get back from it my bin emptied once a fortnight THANKS

ha,ha my mate says the same thing "im not paying £100 to
get my bins emptied", he has some way around it i will ask
him later, im sure he has another name registerd to his
house or something and says he dosent live there if the
wrong people ask.but i will ask to make sure.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I have been away from the UK for a number of years now, but pop back once in a blue moon.....it just looks more grim every time..

....I'm happy in the tropics....far from the madding crowd....

 

[Andyo]

yer i got a job

yer i got a job

just remembered i got a job straight out of prison with a small plumbing firm from the job centre.1976
I told the guy im straight out of prison 3 days ago but i had full city n guilds qualfications.A

 

[STUPPA]

LOL at the dole haters , and how many of you law abiding taxpaying CANNABIS GROWERS pay tax on the money you make from weed or the value of your personal? dont make me laff .

It's alright telling poeple they have to find work but if there aint a job there anyway then what you supposed to do ? if i can't find work it's more the governmants fault than anything else ,i should be able to fine them for their shortcomings not the other way round .


Say i'm homeless and i cant find a home because all the properties have been taken up by immigrants who have heard how easy it is to blag a place when they come over here . I was born here lived here all my life yet someone from bloody kazakstan or wherever has more rights and entightlements than i do , now thats fuked up ,how is any indigenous person in this country ever gonna have any respect as long as this nonsense carries on .

The gov needs to get their priorities straight and give people some pride back then maybe folk will see this country as something other than a sink and would be glad to contribute.

 

[cheesey]

LOL at the dole haters , and how many of you law abiding taxpaying CANNABIS GROWERS pay tax on the money you make from weed or the value of your personal? dont make me laff .

It's alright telling poeple they have to find work but if there aint a job there anyway then what you supposed to do ? if i can't find work it's more the governmants fault than anything else ,i should be able to fine them for their shortcomings not the other way round .


Say i'm homeless and i cant find a home because all the properties have been taken up by immigrants who have heard how easy it is to blag a place when they come over here . I was born here lived here all my life yet someone from bloody kazakstan or wherever has more rights and entightlements than i do , now thats fuked up ,how is any indigenous person in this country ever gonna have any respect as long as this nonsense carries on .

The gov needs to get their priorities straight and give people some pride back then maybe folk will see this country as something other than a sink and would be glad to contribute.

i was homeless around 9 yrs ago . my local houseing wouldnt help me at all as im a single male . if i was female i would of been put into a b&b untill a flat or house came up . to get a flat or house around here you are scored on a points . gold silver and bronze i was scored bronze . to this day now ive no idea why i should of been gold as i was homeless and had no job .
when i was in the office kicking off with the case worker about were i was going to sleep that night 2 polish chicks was given a room at a b&b , they had only been in the uk for 6 days .

lucky for me the time i spent homeless i allways had a sofa to sleep on at mates houses . but not all homeless people are that lucky ..

 

[shafty420]

first of all spellcheck is your freind
second of all isnt there an episode of jeremy kyle you should be watching
if you "can't find work" your not really looking, i have left a job on a friday and been employed by monday its not as hard as some people make out.
lifetime dolys are scum of the planet they should round them all up put them on an oil rig so they can be self sufficiant and not be anyone elses problem or into communities with an 80 foot concrete wall around them so they don't mingle with everyday society lol if keep all the shit in one place world would be a better place like a landfill of society

even if your born here dosnt entitle you to a free ride

true englishmen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6qHcd4imKk

dole scum
http://www.thevacuum.org.uk/issues/issues0120/issue06/is06artdolscu.html

 

[GMT]

I agree that single healthy males in the uk are considered the lowest of the low by the public sector. But you have to ask yourself why the folks in the job centre feel justified looking down their nose at people claiming £50 a week to help them to eat while looking for work when they themselves take £600 per week out of the public tax purse for collecting signatures. People who go into the job centre, will at some point pay tax, but public sector workers will never pay 1 penny in taxation, as if I give you £10 and you give me £5 of it back, to my mind I gave you a fiver and you gave me nothing.
I believe in a flat rate benefit situation. Make it £50 make it £100 I dont care, but thats what each person of working age should get. That way if you are responsible and don't have kids before you can support them, then you can get by but paying people more money and giving them more rights the more kids they can't support is upside down, as all it does is tell people, if you dont want to work, get a house, income and extra grants by having more kids. I do think that people who are without an income should be provided a basic income by the state, whether they are looking for work or not. Because I dont think that creating a population that has no income is good for public saftey, ie. you need cash from somewhere, and if thats not from the govt. and theres no work, then theres only crime. And not all crime is as harmless as selling a few buds.

 

[Hazyfontazy]

first of all spellcheck is your freind
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[GMT]

I should point out that not everyone in the uk, lives in a city centre, so its not easy for a lot of people to find work. All this, "if you cant find work you arent looking" is absolute rubbish. Also not everyone is brain dead, and shop work, factory work, general labouring jobs are not suitable for everyone. Some people would go mad in such a mind numbing environment.

 

[cheesey]

great post GMT

take a look at the people who moved in next door to me about a yr ago , they were moved from a scottish houseing estate to here , no ties with the area at all ( to get a local house here u have to have famaly in the area )

the dude and his shrek of a wife has 4 kids and 1 on the way all the kids are under 12 yr old .
they both dont work as the wife has schizophrenia so she says ( 2bh i dont think she has shes just a nasty bitch )
the dude is her carer so they both get full rate sickness and carers grant plus with 4 kids and 1 on the way they must be pulling in a good £400 a week free rent ect ect .
forgot too say 3 weeks ago the dude pulled up in a brand new people carryer car .

makes me sick

 

[cheesey]

I should point out that not everyone in the uk, lives in a city centre, so its not easy for a lot of people to find work. All this, "if you cant find work you arent looking" is absolute rubbish. Also not everyone is brain dead, and shop work, factory work, general labouring jobs are not suitable for everyone. Some people would go mad in such a mind numbing environment.

100% agreed . it take me 50 mins on a bus what runs 5 times aday to get to a town were they is little work and what work there is you have to be there for 7am . the first bus starts here at 8am

my last job i had to travel , it cost me £89 a week to get there and back . i was only taking home £160 a week after tax n inc . that left me with £70 a week after paying to get to work .

 

[shafty420]

i know as a teen i lived in a small village of maybe 200 people i lost my job as a car sparky noticed alot of dirty cars, so got a cheap pressure washer a genny and the basics started doing car washes just to get by. then within a year was established detailing business covering shows and dealerships so yh with a bit of imagination it is that easy. i know its harder these days but theres alot of oportunities out there for yound people princes trust etc i meta guy last year grew up on a rough estate on bethnel green history of drugs/gangs turned his life around now he mentors kids and runs workshops going nationally now he's on 6 figures at age of 28
i think people expect things to be given them on a plate these days, they moan at goverment for not doing anything for them but this excuse is as old as the hills if your not doing something about the problem then your the problem yeh so not everyone like factory work not everyone like working in tescos but fuck it least they have the decency and self respect to get up in the morning and support themselves and there familys

 

[GMT]

you simply cant support yourself never mind a family on minimum wage. as cheesey said, by the time you pay your tax, ni, transport costs, bought your work clothes, got something to eat at dinner time, and bought the extra cigs you'll smoke because work is stressing you out lol, you're back to what you get on benefits. So people are already working for their benefits. Thats what minimum wage is, its the lowest wage you can expect anyone to work for and break even. If you throw a wife and a couple of kids into the mix too, then you're back to caliming some sort of benefits anyway. To support a family takes a salary of a minimum of around £22k. And thats living in poverty. How you buy a house on £22k though when the average house price is £160k, and a cheap house is £120k, is beyond me. The average salary is £24k, so a working couple can pull in nearly £50k before tax, but then you have to accept that single people are at a real disadvantage. No wonder the biggest earners right now are dating sites.
So complaining that a single guy, who is looking for but not finding work, should not be allowed to claim £50 a week to pay for food, when others are claiming for houses and (if they're on disability, cars,) kids, etc, is clearly missing the point. The problem with public sector finances right now are the public sector pension arragnements, not the basic dole allowance. When you pay your council tax, 30% of that goes to paying for civil servants pensions. They make no provision for their retirement at all, while shouting that everyone who pays their salaries should provide for their own old age. If you work in the commercial sector, you currently pay for your own life, the lives of those who arent working, the costs of raising other peoples kids, illegal wars, civil servants salaries and pensions, old people, sick people, bankers' bonuses and have to save up for your retirement. So no matter waht situation you are in, you are screwed unless you are in the public sector, married with kids and bought your house more than 10 years ago.

 

[STUPPA]

first of all spellcheck is your freind
second of all isnt there an episode of jeremy kyle you should be watching
if you "can't find work" your not really looking, i have left a job on a friday and been employed by monday its not as hard as some people make out.
lifetime dolys are scum of the planet they should round them all up put them on an oil rig so they can be self sufficiant and not be anyone elses problem or into communities with an 80 foot concrete wall around them so they don't mingle with everyday society lol if keep all the shit in one place world would be a better place like a landfill of society

even if your born here dosnt entitle you to a free ride

true englishmen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6qHcd4imKk

dole scum
http://www.thevacuum.org.uk/issues/issues0120/issue06/is06artdolscu.html

LOL ya cheeky get , i have had plenty of jobs like the one i did for 4 years solid and then just got laid off out of the blue or the one i did for an agency desribed as "temp going permanent" they kept me on till the work they needed was done and then got rid of me !and told me to ring them up everyday to see if work available ! so much for permanent .

I maintain that the government is responsible and not me , i do not run this country they do , they are keen to highlight what the general public thinks is the problem just to appease them but they are not so keen to tell them that there are'nt actually any jobs available in the low paid sector cos they have given them all to immigrant workers, who they have also given all the housing to.

They also started or endorsed the current system of agencies controlling the job market ,so now if you want to get a job you have to go thru a "middleman" before you can get work, this means someone else getting paid while you do all the work , now which is worse? someone trying to claim benefits to survive or some company leeching from what are mostly low paid workers?

the last agency job i did was minimum wage and was working in a shitty hazardous enviroment , the agency was making £10 per every hour that i worked! nearly double what i was getting , that is just wrong however you look at it .


now i must go cos tina has just found out tony has been cheating on her on the kyle show

 

[STUPPA]

you simply cant support yourself never mind a family on minimum wage. as cheesey said, by the time you pay your tax, ni, transport costs, bought your work clothes, got something to eat at dinner time, and bought the extra cigs you'll smoke because work is stressing you out lol, you're back to what you get on benefits. So people are already working for their benefits. Thats what minimum wage is, its the lowest wage you can expect anyone to work for and break even. If you throw a wife and a couple of kids into the mix too, then you're back to caliming some sort of benefits anyway. To support a family takes a salary of a minimum of around £22k. And thats living in poverty. How you buy a house on £22k though when the average house price is £160k, and a cheap house is £120k, is beyond me. The average salary is £24k, so a working couple can pull in nearly £50k before tax, but then you have to accept that single people are at a real disadvantage. No wonder the biggest earners right now are dating sites.
So complaining that a single guy, who is looking for but not finding work, should not be allowed to claim £50 a week to pay for food, when others are claiming for houses and (if they're on disability, cars,) kids, etc, is clearly missing the point. The problem with public sector finances right now are the public sector pension arragnements, not the basic dole allowance. When you pay your council tax, 30% of that goes to paying for civil servants pensions. They make no provision for their retirement at all, while shouting that everyone who pays their salaries should provide for their own old age. If you work in the commercial sector, you currently pay for your own life, the lives of those who arent working, the costs of raising other peoples kids, illegal wars, civil servants salaries and pensions, old people, sick people, bankers' bonuses and have to save up for your retirement. So no matter waht situation you are in, you are screwed unless you are in the public sector, married with kids and bought your house more than 10 years ago.

Too true

Another thing that makes me laff about these people going on about dole dosers etc. is that alot of the spongers are actually well off couples who are both working haha! they are earning like £40 k between them and still claiming fookin child benefit LOL unbelievable . The government has tried to stop it now but it's still pretty easy for anyone to fiddle it and i'm sure plenty of them will.


Everyone is on the fiddle, some of the biggest con artists in the country are big "legit" companies fiddling miilions of pounds in tax payments every year using all the loopholes in the system that they can.
It's all relative at the end of the day, which is worse a poor man scamming £60 a week or a rich man scamming £60,000 a week ?

 

[GMT]

Kyle? when star trek is on?

 

[STUPPA]

Dude don't be dissin on my man jez now ,alright blood innit?

 

[kilobyter]

ya get me hehe