SSH that won't flower.

[70's rock]

My ssh was in 12/12 for over 5 weeks and did not flower. She showed some preflowers after two+ weeks, but then she just kept stretching. She was veged for two weeks. I had to cut her down because she got too big.

I wonder what caused this. Genetics or something else! She was a bit stressed due to overwatering, but was not in a terrible shape.

Oh yeah, i had a very, very small light leak. When it's pitch black you can see a 3-4 cm long glow at the bottom, but no direct light escapes out. I had a Aurora indica in the cab at the same time and it behaved just as i expected.

 

[SuperConductor]

2 weeks veg from seed isn't enough mate. You'd need to veg a SHH for at least 4 weeks before flowering but even then it'd still stretch for 4+ weeks. Before a plant can flower fully it needs to reach sexual maturity. Sounds like yous had just reached that point.

As a sativa dominant cross (in growth characteristics at least) you should expect SSH to grow very differently to indicas such as aurora indica. If you grow it again 'd say veg a mother for aat least a month maybe two take clones and flower those as they should be mature if the mother is. You'll also want to read up on training techniques such as supercropping and LST. Sort out your watering technique too as overwatering is a big problem.

 

[JamieShoes]

I agree that maturity was the most likely cause, especially as the Indica flowered as normal (ie no light leaks or faulty timer as this one would not have flowered either)..

I'd also say feeding hazes/sativa doms "N" when in flower will encourage them to continue to grow upwards (well beyond the usual 3-4 week stretch one might expect) this can be especially important to coco growers as many of us use a 2 part (A+B) complete feed from start to finish...with my 9wk Amnesia cut (SSH) for example, I stop feeding N (2 part A+B) on about day 30, based on bud development and continue only feeding P and K until flush..


example
Veg - week 1-4 I use A+B and some Rhizo
Bloom - weeks 1-4 A+B introducing booster at first signs of trich development (end week 3) and introducing small amount of PK 13/14 at first sign of "proper bud development" usually around end week 4
Bloom week 4-5 Pk 13/14 and booster
Bloom week 5-7 GHE Ripen only (0.6.5)
Bloom week 8-9 water only.
week 9 (day 63 ish) cut em down...

 

[SuperConductor]

Jamie when you cut out N do your plants not start yellowing? I wouldn't cut it out entirely myself as it's an essential nutrient even in flower but cutting it down slightly during the stretch phase is a good idea. I find my SSH uses a lot of N during the flowering stage. Personally I don't agree with the whole yellowing during the second half of flower thing, really comprimises yield (been testing it out with this run).

 

[70's rock]

Thanks a lot guys, sounds to me that you found the problem. I did expect the ssh to take a bit longer than the ai to flower, but not this much. I grew a ssh last winter, but then i veged for seven weeks and it started budding after about two weeks of 12/12. It grew slower than this one though.

Ill harvest what i got in my cab and do a single ssh after that. It appears to be the only way to go. I do have a speaker for veg, so i will not loose that much time.

Thanks again!

 

[el Dream Reader]

Were the seeds from Greenhouse? There is a known issue with a batch of SSH not wanting to flower. I've seen a couple threads about this.

 

[JamieShoes]

Jamie when you cut out N do your plants not start yellowing? I wouldn't cut it out entirely myself as it's an essential nutrient even in flower but cutting it down slightly during the stretch phase is a good idea. I find my SSH uses a lot of N during the flowering stage. Personally I don't agree with the whole yellowing during the second half of flower thing, really comprimises yield (been testing it out with this run).

yes they do mate

not immediately as by the time I cut N they're as green as can be and so a good bit in store.. I do however follow the notion that it is a good idea to have plants yellowing in the 2nd half of flowering... I havent tested that to any extent, I just always believed it to be true



yield indicator - 11ltr pot - 4 week veg + 9 week bloom = avg 70g+

 

[JamieShoes]

Were the seeds from Greenhouse? There is a known issue with a batch of SSH not wanting to flower. I've seen a couple threads about this.

I hadn't heard this myself, but that could well be it if its a "known issue"

 

[70's rock]

Were the seeds from Greenhouse? There is a known issue with a batch of SSH not wanting to flower. I've seen a couple threads about this.

Yes they are. Have not heard about it. Perhaps it might be a good idea to ask in the ghs forum?

 

[noble1]

hazes are notorious for stretching and getting to big ive herd they suck to grow indoors for the reason ive got 5 east coast sour d x mango haze (morning haze) indoor but there looking great

 

[70's rock]

I have. It was so small i did not notice, my room is rarely dark enough to make the leak visible. It's gotta be pitch black.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

70's rock, there are many techniques for managing vertical growth and SSH is an easy one to train.

Next time, tie back the branches or crack the stems. You can even go so far as topping her if need be or using a combination of all three techniques. Cannabis sativa is extremely tolerant to pruning and height manipulation. They will bounce right back if they are healthy.

Don't be so quick to give up and chop a plant....that should be an absolute last resort after all methods fail.

 

[70's rock]

Did i forget to mention she was lst'd? Guess i did. If i would continue, the problem would not be height, rather width since there was another plant in there.

 

[70's rock]

Ok, i germed another one and put it in 12/12 from start. I also watered less and gave weaker nutes and she loved it! Took a little more than five weeks until she started to flower. This is day 49 of flowering. Nice to finally grow this strain in a proper way!

But i do have some concerns. There is almost no frost on her, at least not on the leafes. Is she usually this late frosting up? Or is it a bad pheno? I really hope not. Then again it's still five weeks til choptime if not more.


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[BigPhil]

Hay up I grew some cheese x ssh they didnt get very frosty was still a nice smoke tho

 

[Justin_Credible]

Ok, i germed another one and put it in 12/12 from start. I also watered less and gave weaker nutes and she loved it! Took a little more than five weeks until she started to flower. This is day 49 of flowering. Nice to finally grow this strain in a proper way!

But i do have some concerns. There is almost no frost on her, at least not on the leafes. Is she usually this late frosting up? Or is it a bad pheno? I really hope not. Then again it's still five weeks til choptime if not more.


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I bet by day 75-90 u will see some really nice frost coming ur way man. Nice and healthy looking colas u have there.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I've smoked frosty herb that was unimpressive, and been blown away by herb that wasn't overly frosty... visible resin glands are not always indicative of potency... generally, but not always.

with that being said, longer flowering varieties often frost up much later in flower than fast varieties.

 

[70's rock]

Thank you all for your answers

Guess i'll have to cool down then. It's just that i've had some problems growing this strain in the past, so when my fourth attempt is going well i would be bummed out if it was a bed pheno.

Now i just wait...

 

[BadRabbit]

I've smoked frosty herb that was unimpressive, and been blown away by herb that wasn't overly frosty... visible resin glands are not always indicative of potency... generally, but not always.

with that being said, longer flowering varieties often frost up much later in flower than fast varieties.

Word.

I had some fruity sativa years ago that looked like bagseed galore with almost no easily visible tricomes. Blew the top of your head off in two tokes max ...

 

[Strapped]

hey man, do you mind me asking how much you were watering? correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that it was very difficult to over-water coco.