foliar feeds

[crazyfarm]

hopefully someone here that uses fox farm nutes can suggest some foliar spray nutrients to use in veg and some to use in flowering.. havent started getting into foliar feeding yet.. i was told not to foliar feed after week 3 of flower.


any input is highly appreciated as im looking to start giving my plants some more stimulants rather than growing from seed so often

THANKS in advance!

(im currently using ffof soil with the fox farm trio of nutes and solubles.)

i think foliar feeding with bushmaster a week before flower once may help causing more branches/bushier plant

 

[supermanlives]

you can use both for foliar they both have foliar application rates on bottle. i my self barely ever bother with foliar unless there is a problem. good luck

 

[s00thsayer]

i never foliar feed or mist water on the plant leaves...i feed/water through the soil only. misting can cause high humidity and encourage mildew and mold, especially when in flower. foliar feeding is not necessary.

 

[stonedar]

no it's not necessary but I like to foliar feed
there are a bazillion products exactly like the one I use. I use Green Sense Foliar juice, cause thats what my local nursery sells. It's not terribly expensive. You could make it cheaper I am sure, but I am lazy. here is a link on amazon for it, I pay $19.95 a gallon locally.

http://www.amazon.com/GreenSense-Foliar-Spray-Gal/dp/B00025H2ZE

here's their sales pitch

GreenSense Foliar Juice is an excellent fertilizer for your entire landscape. Regular use of GreenSense Foliar Juice will improve the health and appearance of all your landscape and garden plants. Easy to use, GreenSense Foliar Juice has all the ingredients that are recommended for a beautiful garden in one bottle. Ingredients: Manure tea, fish, kelp, apple cider vinegar, molasses, and magnesium sulfate. NPK: 0.2-0.75-1.75 Application rate: For foliar spray, mix 3 tablespoons GreenSense Foliar Juice with 1 gallon of water. Spray on the tops and bottoms of the leaves, and the soil around the plants. Always spray in the morning of the evening. For best results, repeat every one or two weeks during the growing season.

 

[stonedar]

and yeah stop foliar feeding like the last 3-4 weeks

 

[Mitch Connor]

i never foliar feed or mist water on the plant leaves...i feed/water through the soil only. misting can cause high humidity and encourage mildew and mold, especially when in flower. foliar feeding is not necessary.

I think what you meant to say was:

"Misting DOES cause a SLIGHT climb in humidity for a brief period during the light cycle and CAN encourage mildew and mold. Foliar feeding is not necessary for plant growth, but when foliar feeding in addition to regular watering, plants can thrive tremendously from the multiple of benefits foliar feeding can give."

If you have a sterile, aerated environment that inhibits the creation of mold/mildew, foliar feeding can be used all the way up until harvest on some strains. Of course, there are many factors involved in determining how/when to foliar, but to give such a bland statement such as yours is misleading to a new grower.

Foliar feeding is a technique in its own, that can be implemented into regular feedings to boost the speed of growth and the end quality of the product. If you want to expand your knowledge of the different methods of producing high quality cannabis, it is a technique worth looking into.

 

[LD420]

never tried foliar myself..ill have to give it a shot

 

[Future]

I foliar feed with just water. I'm collecting rainwater and will be using that to hydrate my ladies.

This will be my third medical and educated grow. I will continue with the LST and FIM technique on this batch .

 

[bendoslendo]

If you have a sterile, aerated environment that inhibits the creation of mold/mildew, foliar feeding can be used all the way up until harvest on some strains.

Is that true? Is it ever acceptable to spray nutrients on buds ready to be harvested? I wouldn't recommend it.

OP, I wouldn't recommend foliar feeding after 3 weeks flower. When your flower clusters become dense, water is easily sequestered in the nooks and crannies. This is an open invitation for molds.

Most nutrients have recommendations for foliar feeding on the back. I usually feed at 1/4 my full strength recipe, not the bottle strength. Make sure you use a sticker spreader/ wetting agent with your spray. Foliar feeding without one is much less efficient and arguably pointless. I like Coco-wet but have heard of people using a tad of dishsoap.

 

[Mitch Connor]

I'm just basing off of my experience, and friends' experiences from their environments.

I am sorry I misworded my statement, I forget to be as precise as possible when speaking about things.

Obviously it's not wise to foliar during late flower on some strains (and never during the final 7-10 flush days, except with distilled/RO to get rid of any residual salts on the surfaces), but I am telling you, given the right strain and environment, it can be done without mold.

I have never had mold before and I foliar almost daily, 5 minutes before lights on. My flowering chamber sits at 74F/40% RH during flower, it peaks at 55% when I foliar for the first 30 minutes of the light cycle, then goes down to 40% again after that. I inspect my plants daily and have come to this conclusion for my setup. I run Mandala - Speed Queen and take her to 61 days. I'm running a scrog at the moment in a 3x3 area so the buds are close together.

What works for you probably doesn't work for me, and for the next person, and so on. What we all try and do is maximize what our environment and setup will allow, while always improving on techniques to push the limits of our genetics. I have found a method that allows me to be with my plants every day, tending to each with LST and inspecting for pests and other nasties (which I've never had by the way, 100% coco).

Again, I do not suggest foliar spraying with a nutrient solution during the flush, but if your environment/strain allows it like mine, it is fine to use RO during the final feeds to get rid of any salts that will be present on the final product of the bud. If you want to experiment with your strain and setup to see how far you can push the limits of foliar, then this information will help. If not, read it, absorb it, and move on to the next post.

There are some really good foliar feed threads on here already that have way more information that I'm willing to dig up and post for your convenience. If you really want to implement this seriously, it will take reading and trying.

 

[MHHSP]

Future- I would not spray plants on any regular basis with water as this will increase your chance for certain disease. And if its just water your not foilar feeding, your just misting them and making the leafs wet... (a bad thing)

 

[bendoslendo]

Yeah Mitch my concern with your statement was the spraying of nutrients on ready to harvest bud. I guess if your rinsing it off well with RO in the last week it's fine.

I understand you have your shit locked down, and respect you for that. It's also good of you to stress that strict environmental controls are absolutely necessary if you plan on foliar feeding so late in flower. For most grow rooms, it would be botrytis all over.

 

[sneakinman13]

if your growing conditions are fine then foilar feeding is the shit!

i like to give them hygrozyme , dm liquid light , and dm saturator for my sticker.
they are happpy as can be everytime i spray ummmm.
good luck

 

[s00thsayer]

...to give such a bland statement such as yours is misleading to a new grower.

the point was....misting/foliar feeding is risky and is not necessary especially for a NEW GROWER. i think that was clear in my "bland" statement. no need to be a hater. i meant what i said. don't re-write my words and i won't re-write yours.

i did mean that misting CAN cause high humidity--misting a plant with heavy foliage or buds can cause mold/mildew in a matter of days especially if coupled with inadequate air movement, spraying at night, inadequate light, or over watering. foliar feeding can be tricky and is not necessary.

 

[the Rock]

Ive been using VF-11 for over 10 years now spray on twice a week and see the results. Works great foe bringing sick plants back to life they will even send you free samples
www.vf-11plantfood.com

 

[Mitch Connor]

the point was....misting/foliar feeding is risky and is not necessary especially for a NEW GROWER. i think that was clear in my "bland" statement. no need to be a hater. i meant what i said. don't re-write my words and i won't re-write yours.

i did mean that misting CAN cause high humidity--misting a plant with heavy foliage or buds can cause mold/mildew in a matter of days especially if coupled with inadequate air movement, spraying at night, inadequate light, or over watering. foliar feeding can be tricky and is not necessary.

Why you getting mad buddy? Everything is good. You ok?

Lets talk about it

 

[homebrew420]

spray away. High humidity even up to week 6 can be a great thing , espesially if you are using CO2. I just use seaweed neem oil and Dr Bronners peppermint soap Wich as a matter of fact Stops these fungal and midew problems everyone seems overly concerned about. We are not talking about spraying down some heavily resin coated flowers a week from harvest. That is ,imo, unwise. I will spray this onto the plants until 3 weeks before harvest. A few sprays with plain water after to ensure no residuals are left. The plant use and metabolize all this junk. And if your not moving a good daeal of air in the room, start to. Hope this helps.

Peace

 

[homebrew420]

since when is spraying plants tricky? I just fill my bottles up with solution and pull the handle. Out comes a mist of mild nutes.

Just busting some chips man. haha

 

[BigForest]

has anyone use spray and grow?

 

[grapeman]

The mis-conception here is that water/misting/foliar may cause mildew or other diseases.
False.
In fact, water kills mildew spores on contact. The key here is air movement. As long as you have vigorous air movement (very important for many reasons), and manage your RH, there is NO added risk of diseases from foliar.

I am a big believer in foliar. I spray my plants at least once a week. Wether it is light feeds of epsom salts, neem, kelp, silicon or whatever my program or the plants call for, I give it to 'em. Up to 3 weeks before harvest.