How long do you wait for seeds to start?

[spainmedman]

I have had some seeds in small coco fiber pots with pro-mix on a heat in a humidity dome for 5 days and not one seed has started. Normally they start sooner. The only thing different this time is these are seeds I made myself, they were taken fully ripe and brown but planted only 2 days after harvest. I had them in the fridge for 2 days before I put them in the pro-mix.
I read they could be started right after harvest if mature, is this right?

 

[Cool Moe]

usually I think they need to dry out for at least a few weeks, then in the fridge for a few weeks

 

[oldtree]

This has been known to happen. This is a lemon skunk mom that was seeded. You can use them right after you harvest them. I like to let them dry overnight.
In rockwool I see them poke their heads in about 2 1/2 days. In soil I have seen it take as long as 10 days, and they did mature into healthy, vigorous plants. How deep are they in the soil?

 

[spainmedman]

They are just over 1/4th of an inch down, not packed in tight and have been misted to keep moist several times a day.
I thought of another thing I did different...I have only one tray liner on the heat mat, usually I use 2, so maybe the seeds are too warm?

 

[oldtree]

Check the temps on the mat. If the temp is over 100 that could be a problem. I doubt it though. Give them a few more days.

 

[geopolitical]

New seeds anywhere from 2-15 days. Old or poorly stored seeds? weeks and weeks sometimes even with scarification.

 

[Frozenguy]

I usually have seeds up within 60 days on average. Sometimes sooner, sometimes later.

Soil. planted straight into wet wet soil. No touching the tap root or scuffing the seeds.. Just water and soil.

 

[Danny-boy777]

Im happy to see this guys,

For me the most tedious part of growing is waiting for the little buggers to pop up and say hello,

to put your mind at ease spainmedman I have waited literally 2 months and seeds that I put down only popped then,I honestly thought they were duffs,but no they were just lazy,

I cant remember who or where but there is an awesome thread where a chap show through a transparent cup how the seed works (trust me looking at these pics will make you feel better, I will try find this thread for you.

Namaste.

 

[ibjamming]

They are just over 1/4th of an inch down, not packed in tight and have been misted to keep moist several times a day.
I thought of another thing I did different...I have only one tray liner on the heat mat, usually I use 2, so maybe the seeds are too warm?

If you keep them TOO wet...you can drown them. Plant them 1/2 inch down into a nice loose airy mix and then leave them alone for at least a week.

Maybe...too warm will cook them.

You're making it more complicated than it has to be...keep it simple.

Im happy to see this guys,

For me the most tedious part of growing is waiting for the little buggers to pop up and say hello,

to put your mind at ease spainmedman I have waited literally 2 months and seeds that I put down only popped then,I honestly thought they were duffs,but no they were just lazy,

I cant remember who or where but there is an awesome thread where a chap show through a transparent cup how the seed works (trust me looking at these pics will make you feel better, I will try find this thread for you.

Namaste.

Yup...there's a lot going on beneath the ground before it finally pops. There's quite a bit of root below a small seedling. That's what it's doing when it appears to be just sitting there for a couple of days...it's growing below the ground...growing roots.

I've seen that thread too Danny...the seedling growing along the side of a clear cup. It was interesting.

 

[spainmedman]

I didn't think I could keep them too wet in the pro-mix it usually drains well, I'll check that. Pretty sure it's not too warm for them, I'll check with a thermometer later.

My good seeds normally come up much faster.

I have been too impatient with bag seeds before, one time I had some in my seed starter dome for 2 weeks and nothing, then I dumped the soil with the seeds back in my soil container and look a few days later and some popped.....

I'll give them some more time but I need the space for clones real soon.

 

[Frozenguy]

I didn't think I could keep them too wet in the pro-mix it usually drains well, I'll check that. Pretty sure it's not too warm for them, I'll check with a thermometer later.

My good seeds normally come up much faster.

I have been too impatient with bag seeds before, one time I had some in my seed starter dome for 2 weeks and nothing, then I dumped the soil with the seeds back in my soil container and look a few days later and some popped.....

I'll give them some more time but I need the space for clones real soon.

You can't drown a seed. Thats why people get away with putting them in glasses of water.

I SATURATE my soil, plant the seed about 1.5cm deep. Then I put saran wrap over the top of the cup so it will not evaporate. It stays pretty much as wet as the first day throughout germination. A few days later, seedlings pop up. I take the saran wrap off and let the soil dry out like normal. Faster and safer then paper towel/shot glass. Just have to keep the soil wet so use saran wrap or something. And make sure the seedlings are warm, but not hot.

Once that seedling emerges though, you can overwater it so be careful and dont water it until the soil dries out after germination/removal of saran wrap.

 

[johndenver]

You can't drown a seed. Thats why people get away with putting them in glasses of water.

I SATURATE my soil, plant the seed about 1.5cm deep. Then I put saran wrap over the top of the cup so it will not evaporate. It stays pretty much as wet as the first day throughout germination. A few days later, seedlings pop up. I take the saran wrap off and let the soil dry out like normal. Faster and safer then paper towel/shot glass. Just have to keep the soil wet so use saran wrap or something. And make sure the seedlings are warm, but not hot.

Once that seedling emerges though, you can overwater it so be careful and dont water it until the soil dries out after germination/removal of saran wrap.

Sounds like a solid method. The whole key is to reproduce humid conditions underground. Whether that means spraying rockwools or cocoplugs or just soaking soil. But the saran wrap thing I like; deff tryin it next time!

 

[Danny-boy777]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=190927&highlight=germ&page=2

Heres that link I was telling you about.

too cool

Namaste.

 

[mellow yellow]

I hate waiting for beans to pop such a worry

 

[ibjamming]

I hate waiting for beans to pop such a worry

No worse than waiting for clones to root...